First Impressions on PES5!

[rossjacks]

There is nothing wrong with change as long as its a good change. The changes in the menu, training & extra options are ok but the changes in the gameplay, some player movements etc are not good at all. Maybe its more realistic but dont kid yourselves you cant have a realistic football as a computer game its just not possible if it would you couldnt play it.
I hate the gameplay, the slow & unexpected player movements in wrong directions, the glides when you turn your player he slides a meter or so & leaves the ball for the taking. Its a step back I think & Fifa is gaining on ProEvo but they still got light years to take in.
Anyway gameplay, player movements & speed are crap, the CPU cheats their ass off, is that realistic!? NO!! The sound when you hit the ball....what the hell is that, its like punching a sandbag...na I feel cheated on my money, Im sticking to PES4 until WE9I to see if they have done any changes. PES5 is so far a let down!!

 

[yajeel]

Well, I've now got the game and have uninstalled the demo - I'm so glad - I think it's miles better, there is still a tiny bit of 'players running goal side' but not much!! It's really quite awesome, just had four friendlies, got beat the first 2, then won the last two - only 1-0 though! And the second game was a penalty, a great decision it was too...the player movement is much better and the passes work! I'm pretty impressed...

So far no complaints, I'm gutted - I've got to go on the p!ss now, and can't play again until tomorrow!

 

[jubbinio]

how does it rate compared to the ps2 version!?

 

[netbeatz]

Well, i played the demo..and bought it today..my impression..

Fantastic.

I hear where those who have criticised it are coming from..it is different. Graphically it has improved a bit, but the gameplay has been overhauled. In my opinion that is why we buy these games. What would be the point of buying a game that is gameplay-wise the same as the one we already have. When i first played PES4 i was totally put off by it, but after playing it since its release to last night, i thought it was the best thing ever.

PES5 is the same although i have to say i am adapting to it easier than PES4. It is so much more realistic with great real life touches to it. Online its fantastic too with the inbuilt network support making it so easy to get a game and with the minimum of lag.

I have only had it a few hours but it has grown on me much quicker than PES4 did..am lovin it.


Netbeatz

 

[pinsnpies]

I swear to God that I prefer the demo with no commentery to the real game. I am also pretty sure that the demo had a crowd in it and the Graphics were much sharper. This is obviously just a ps2 port straight on to the pc. In fact i will download the demo again just to check.

 

[rossjacks]

We must be playing a different game cause PES5 is a let down!!!
Ive only enjoyed the game when playing online other wise its just a pure let down. Improvments in graphics & settings & movements are just over shadowed by crapp gameplay, no ball controll, slow movements, the sudden unpredicted moves in wrong direction & the way the CPU keeps cheating, Etoo catched up by a crap player with 72 Acc & 73 in Top speed whereas Etoo got both way over 90 its just to freaking frustraiting. Even at 3star its cheating....
My final verdict after few days of playing: Total Let down & Crap!! Only good for online gaming.
I even gave my PES4 & PES5 to a friend who never had played them & he said that PES4 is much much better!!

 

[rossjacks]

We must be playing a different game cause PES5 is a let down!!!
Ive only enjoyed the game when playing online other wise its just a pure let down. Improvments in graphics & settings & movements are just over shadowed by crapp gameplay, no ball controll, slow movements, the sudden unpredicted moves in wrong direction & the way the CPU keeps cheating, Etoo catched up by a crap player with 72 Acc & 73 in Top speed whereas Etoo got both way over 90 its just to freaking frustraiting. Even at 3star its cheating....
My final verdict after few days of playing: Total Let down & Crap!! Only good for online gaming.
I even gave my PES4 & PES5 to a friend who never had played them & he said that PES4 is much much better!!

 

[pinsnpies]

Have you tried playing online yet. Its much better as both sides have chances.

 

[old man]

I didn't like online play

 

[dahuf]

PES5 is awesome, i think its better than PES4. The only major thing i dont like abou the game is that having a high speed and acceleration counts for nothing in this game, because any defender can catch up with the fastest of attackers. Otherwise this game is awesome, there is a bit of cheating in this game, but thats to be expected because how else wil it cope with us? it has to stop us some how and thats the only way it knows how.
Also does any1 find the shooting a bit variable, i find that sometimes its really sensitive and soon as i press shoot, the bar goes up really quickly amd sumtimes wen i press shoot the bar goes up really slowly. mi8 me my control pad but the pads quite new,

 

[pazman]

Its was the same when pes4 came out, i was so used to pes3 i didnt like pes4 at first with the new passing technique etc but got used to it in the end and was quality. Again with pes5 its different and will take a while to get used to, i get so fustrated as its alot harder to get the ball off the opposition etc. PES fans give it TIME!!

 

[rossjacks]

It dont matter how many times I try the game by startint to have a open mind etc to let the game come to be..it pisses me off that they F**ked up many things by improving on the wrong things.
The shooting for example, there is no way to control it just shoot & hope for the best, dont know how many time Ive been free with goalie & my player shoots 3m high or wide!?!
The ball controll is also crap, it takes ages for player to controll the ball, even Ronaldinho stinks, as soon as I get the ball I gotta pass it on cause as soon as CPU looks at me the ball bounces off my feet to....
But when in comes to me as soon as I look at the damn CPU they get a damn free kick. I think alot in the game is up to the AI, shooting, direction, bounces etc....I dont like that!!
What I miss is improvments in Tactics!? Individuals?`etc....they done nothing there jsut adding few new positions!!
Im mad mad that Ive waited this long & spend time & money I cant get back!!

 

[darkimination]

I think the game is great!

It's more realistic, maybe the gameplay it's slowler, but it makes you think and build up your play instead of running and dribbling to the opponent's goal like a kamikaze
Maybe one of the things they did worst is that the players are to "soft", i mean, c'mon, you barelly touch'em and you foul them
One of the improvements it's the physics, the way the ball moves and the players fight for a ball is far, far better than PES4.
The IA is more clever than before, the CPU builds up it's plays better than in PES4, it's interesting the way it scores.
I agree that the CPU sometimes cheats, but think that if the CPU don't do that cheats it would be too easy to beat it.
Konami needs to copy the best things from FIFA, their commentarists and the equipments, EA takes seriously those aspects of the game.

In conclussion i give the game a 8.5 ot of 10.

 

[Usul]

I just got PES5. Had a quick match and i wasnt too impressed. Is it just me or was the demo better...? And i noticed that Ronaldinho's free kick accuracy is 77. WTH were they thinking..? That's fucking blasphemy.

 

[yajeel]

Well, I've played a few more games and I feel the cheating is still pretty bad. I played a Konami Cup on 4-star with Inter Milan and got beat in my first game on penalties by FC Twente Belgium after the CPU cheated liked fook to get a 1-1 draw. Adriano missing open goals, and them scoring a header from a corner amongst many other control bending cheating. I had 24 shots, 13 on target as opposed to their 6 off, 1 on. After playing it a bit more, I've noticed more of the stupid player positions.

I HATE not being able to intercept a pass, and the frustration drives me mad. Can someone please confirm that to move a player that is not on the ball, you hold the skill button and move the D-Pad? That's how it worked on PES4, and you could move your player to the ball to get your body in front of a defender, or stick your defender in front of a striker, it only seems to work when it feels like it now. And I swear to god, the game ignores some key presses that I do - like when you want to do a first time pass, the player controls it instead - normally into the path of a CPU defender who is powering up to you with the speed of a cheetah, and knocks you down.

The shooting can sometimes be atrocious, when you are trying to catch up, you stick "All attack" in the strategy settings, and have loads of shots that are all wide, over or straight at the keeper - shots that should NEVER go wide miraculously do when the CPU decides it's going to win. Even if it has no choice but to give you a penalty, it makes you miss or saves it!

Speaking of pens, I despise them. I don't mind when someone guesses which way I'm gonna go and saves it, but I can't be doing with the shot hitting the post all the time or just going wide/row H. It takes the p!ss. I know players miss pens, but it shouldn't just be pre-determined who is going to score and who isn't, especially when the CPU knows which way you're going to go anyway! I don't know why Konami insist on this method of pens, you should have a power gauge to go with the direction and if you get it just right, it's nearer to the edge of the goal, if it's a little bit of power, it's weaker and goes closer to the keeper, and if it's too much it goes wide!! It's simple! It would be sooo much better...

The CPU is much stronger as well, they tend to always come off better in 50-50's, and so many times I slide tackle and they get up quicker than me and get the ball!! It's infuriating. I'll bear with it, and try and to get used to the new style of playing, because there are some great, wonderful things in this game that always makes me want to play. Just the little niggly fouls and blatant cheating puts me off.

 

[rossjacks]

Thats exactly my thoughts!! To many things are putting me off!!
Im feeling that I´ll soon stop giving it a chance & stick to PES4 until WE9I or PES6!!

 

[yajeel]

WE9I will be better, it always is - however the overhaul is never normally that extensive. I still think it will cheat 'til it makes me grey, and the annoying "here CPU, you have the ball, I can't be arsed running for it" attitude will still be there! Fingers crossed it's not though! I hope KONAMI dudes read these threads and take note that they can't con us - we know they've inbuilt the CPU to play like the cheating Italian International players we love to hate...no offense to Italians...just the players!

 

[Usul]

I think you are confusing cheating with bad luck...wasnt there a first impressions sticky in here somewhere...?

 

[rossjacks]

I think you are confusing cheating with bad luck...wasnt there a first impressions sticky in here somewhere...?

Well then I have bad luck all the time when playing PES. Yeah Right!!

 

[Usul]

You're probably right...I dont know about cheating but ive always thought that playing against the COM is counter productive and you shouldnt get used to it. If you play the COM long enough you end up adapting to its linear and never changing style of play and you might end up opening a thread one day about how easy it is to beat the bloody thing on six star and of how you score six or seven goals a game...

The funny thing about the difficulty is that instead of having the COM improve its tactics or way of playing...the players skills improve, which is completely illogical, while yours seem to have theirs lowered.