Think Sabocat has raised a good point here. I've noticed similar occurances when playing Pro Evo as far back as winning Eleven 6 (Pes 3?) Me and my mate pick it up every year and we have a running joke about how "you KNOW" when the COM is going to score. Something isn't right - you can sense it coming. I don't like the term scripting, at the end of the day, all games are programmed and all non human players are programmed to act and react in a certain way. It's a double edged sword because one of the great thigs about PES is that it gives a feeling of 'anything can happen' like real football. This is fine until it becomes predictable. I mainly play MyClub mo have been on Superstar for quite a while now and one thing I have experienced is "knowing" or having a very strong feeling when the COM is about to score. I'm not saying every goal is predictable. There are tines when you have to hold your hands up and accept it. Sometimes you could have done better, others there's nothing you could have done and you just have to accept it. The most noticable (three times this has occured) is when you are having a great game, you're concentrating, trying to keep possession, attacking smart when you see an opportunity, not forcing the play. You go 1-0 up (in my case) you get to half time and you look at the stats. You're smashing them, more possession, more corners, more passes completed - the COM has barely been in your half. They've had 0 shots. THIS is the time to worry, I always make a note of when the COM has had 0 shots and this is why. You go out for the second half, more of the same, you still have all the possession, you're making chances, plenty of shots but you can't quite score. You aren't concerned because the goal is sure to come, and.if it doesn't, you'll take the 1-0. The COM can't even get the ball, and when they do, they break down when they get into your hslf, they still haven't even had 1 ATTEMPT... and then it happens. From nowhere, they score. You haven't played any different but from nowhere they made a chance, their passing goes right, the through ball is perfect, your defender has cement in his adizero's. Your pacey winger can't keep up with their 54 paced attacker. They're one on one, they casually tap it past Manuel Neur who... well basically didn't try to react like Neur (who has 98 for 1 on 1) Now. We all accept this could hsppen but it's the WAY it happens. I only just played a match on my club. 1-0 up, all possession, one of the best halves I've ever had. The other teams stats were inferior to be fair. The team spirit 76 compared to my 92 - and it showed. I dominated all areas and haf a whopping 14 shots in the first half. His keeper pulling off some incredible saves. Neur pulls off maybe 1 every 3/4 games for me. I noticed they'd had 0 shots and my heart sank (this isn't the first time this has happened) 1 or 2 shots I'd have been ok with but 0 seems to mean one thing. I won't score in the second half from another 10 shots. The COM will get a shot and if it does, it WILL score. And I KNEW when it happened, that moment! So, I had been playing defense mode all game, seemed to be workig out, the COM couldn't counter.or.exploit space as I have a deep back line. I was still getting plenty of chances despite playing technicslly 'defensive'. Just inside their half, I played a pass to my winger where the AI didn't quite connect. He let the ball roll past him and their left back picked up the ball "that's odd" I hadn't misplaced a pass all game. Their LB goes sprinting down the wing. Despite my back line playing deep all game they seemed to be quite high up, it left me in a 4v4 with my defenders on the back foot. I accept that as you have more possession, you're team naturally move upfield but it.just felt nervy, panicked. This hadn't happened all game. I told myself this was.it, they're going to.have their "chance" now! The left back plays a chip through ball, Martinez (a beast in the air) readys for the interception but doesn't quite time his header right, misses the ball. The ball is bouncing towards the 18 yard box, Neur comes (despite me not pressing triangle) and his forward turns on he burners, beats Neur to the ball and on a slightly narrow angle slots it in. This is the 88th minute. I have one final attack where I put a desperate cross in, my striker is free but opts for a side foot rather than a header, misses the ball and it rolls out. Final stats (I made note of them...
My Possession 67% - 33% COM
Pass Completion 88% - 67 COM
Corners 5 - 0 COM
Shots (on target) 17 (12) - 1 (1) COM.
This is the 3rd time I have "smashed" the com and been ahead at half time and noticed that they've had 0 shots and have ended up conceding, it's always from 1 shot, no more than that. I'm guessing the game is programmed where, the less shots (or in a case of 0) that the COM has had, it's accuracy increases? I'm not sure but as I say, it's predictable. Strangely I tend to worry less if the COM has had a few shots but not scored. If it is 0, I worry. As I said you csn usually sense when they are going to score also, maybe they get their first corner or free kick. Whichever way, the game seems to always be "close" it makes you play in fear. You go 2-0 up in the 68th, the COM scores from kickoff, so now you instantly have a game back on your hands. In cases where I see it out and win 2-1, I never feel that I've earned it, moreso that the COM has let me off. Has anyone else noticed something similar? For the record I buy zpES nearly every year and this is by far the best I have played in terms of animation, ball physics, at times it can be beautiful to watch some of the goals or passages of play. The times when I am "conned" or screwed over seem to be predictable, you can feel it happening and there's nothing you can do. I'd like to think it was just me but I can relate to alot of what Sambocat is saying.
This looks like yet another example of someone who is terrible at the game deciding to blame scripting. The fact that you are frantically pressing the A button shows me that you don't know how to defend and therefore earned all those yellow cards. When I play I have to try to get a card so obviously it is possible to defend without getting cards.
Get better at the game and you'll see that 95% of the scripting is all in your head.
I'm with you on the fact alot of people jump to the "this is scripted!" idea. A alot of people have better phrased it as bad programming. There are things we can do, defend better, manually shift the back line. But let's not pretend that ref's don't throw cards about like it's christmas. It's hard to give away a free kick and Nt receive a yellow. I don't mind as accumulated yellows don't mount to suspensions but the fact a fouled or tripped player doesn't even need to go to ground to warrant the ref getting his cards out is ridiculous. I think ref's have been overly strict for a while, maybe they could have varying strictness? I recall in FIFA 98, you could adjust refs tolerence via a slider :happy:
