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Pes 2010 demo feedback!

Are you happy with the demo, chief?


  • Total voters
    82

jg1875

Registered User
I had trouble downloading 2010 last night as it was not available on the Playstation store at tea time. I am at work just now and will be trying again tonight. But reading everybodys comments, they seem negative feedback. Is the demo realy that bad?

I am a Hibernian fan from Edinburgh, Hibs are not even on pro evolution where i could get the full SPL on fifa, but i still buy Pro Evolution every year over fifa is it realy that bad that i have to go over to the darkside?
 

byondthought

Registered User
I had trouble downloading 2010 last night as it was not available on the Playstation store at tea time. I am at work just now and will be trying again tonight. But reading everybodys comments, they seem negative feedback. Is the demo realy that bad?

I am a Hibernian fan from Edinburgh, Hibs are not even on pro evolution where i could get the full SPL on fifa, but i still buy Pro Evolution every year over fifa is it realy that bad that i have to go over to the darkside?

if you like 09 you will like 10... Fifa is a different kettle of fish, its more for people with opposable thumbs and not for everyone...

dont worry the darkside has enough people...!! you stay where you are...
 

tangerine_machine

Registered User
This xx% build nonsense is a real cop-out and goes no way to explain why the final product falls so short of the hype each year. There is no way on this earth the game will be so fundamentally different upon release that it harks back to the old days of PES that gave such true simulated enjoyment.

Why release a naff demo that appears on the face of it to be a prettier version of 2009, to only release a completely overhauled game a few weeks later? Who the hell will then buy on the strength of that demo, which is designed to be an advert for the end product? You just wouldn’t do it and I’m sorry to say that once again we are going to end up with a very poor effort that does not warrant being labelled DLC for last year’s shite never mind a new game!

:angry:
 

john4

Registered User
Im not a fan of all this it will be much different for the final release. why would a company put a demo out that is that significantly different to the final release and risk hurting their sales? the only thing that will change is the addition of a few new animations in the likeliest case. im simply not a fan of this demo and it doesnt look like i will be parting with my pennies this year. I will play it at a mates and if it is significantly different then perhaps i will buy it. It just feels like the last 10 PES games only worse. I have tried and tried to get into it but its too bad.

I do have a few good points though

Keepers generally still spill it but also make alot of stunning saves.
the AI seems improved, this only seems to be because of the cards, Gerrard will actually take shots from distance against me now, where as he use to just jog up front and pass it around, pass it backwards ect like the boring AI of last year.

Thats about it.....
 

Jakro

Registered User
So I downloaded and tested the demo and I really can't say that I was dissapointed since I didn't expect anything. I'd say that demo was pretty bad and the fact that there is those response-issues makes it very frustrating to play.

This made me laugh: http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3081/yayatourehilarious.jpg

Toure just started pointing towards my keeper in the late first half and his hand just freezed pointing there. This is from the other half and he's still pointing towards the same goal, which is now Liverpool's goal.

I think think it has the potential to be a bit better than '09, but not by much. I doubt I'm buying it unless the final version is much better. I also am bit amazed why Konami released such a bad demo, if the response-issues are fixed then why not release a demo in which those are fixed? It's like there trying to market it as bad as they can.
 

Ant1975

Registered User
As much as I completely agree with you, I just find one problem when you switch to full manual: You'll entirely loose whatever playerindivdualism there would be in that given player... If you have full manual control of the pass controling Iniesta, then you won't get any help from his incredible good passing skills, since it's on manual. Therefor playing on "Semi" might actually be better, since then you'll get at least some assistance from the players stats.

But honestly - both PES and FIFA this year are below par compared to peoples expectations. It looks like there's no inovative game of footy out there this year - but only version 09.2 builds...
)

Yeah i can see your point on individuality being lost on manual. Of course when i control Torres freely, he has the skill to put away chances someone of weaker stance wouldnt have.
 

Ant1975

Registered User
I had trouble downloading 2010 last night as it was not available on the Playstation store at tea time. I am at work just now and will be trying again tonight. But reading everybodys comments, they seem negative feedback. Is the demo realy that bad?

I am a Hibernian fan from Edinburgh, Hibs are not even on pro evolution where i could get the full SPL on fifa, but i still buy Pro Evolution every year over fifa is it realy that bad that i have to go over to the darkside?

What is this darkside nonsense? Why dont you just buy the game thats the better one?
 

requiem7

Registered User
I have played a couple of games of the demo and its seems alright. The graphics are sharp. A lack of atmosphere due to no commentary. It'll be interesting to see the games reviews. Be the first time I have bought PC gamer in a while.
 

pw121073

Registered User
I'ts fantastic the 360 dribble when you can pull it off looks great. Like all the great Pes games it's going to take a while to work out how to get the best from the game. The graphics are finally next gen and I can't wait for the master league incorporating the champions leaguue, youth teams and all the player cards. Looks good but no one can give a full opinion until the full game has been played for a month or so. Lookis good so far
 

Dragonfly

Waiting....
Looks great, but plays poorly. I can't believe it's reached the stage where I can say that consistently about PES and not FIFA. I'm probably going to get both games, but won't be surprised to trade in PES. I just hope FIFA's Manager Mode is improved, otherwise I can't see myself spending much time on a football game for the first time in my gaming life.
 

Winger

Registered User
I had about an hour and a half on the demo there. And I'm a little underwhelmed from the whole experience. There are serious problems with response times, especially in regard to shooting, with first time shots being most problematic.

It does play similar to PES 2009 but, similar is not the same. The change in game speed and gameplay (opponent A.I.) is quite apparent, at least to me. It may be subtle but, it does make a difference. I still play PES 2009 quite regularly and I can dominate more often than not, and even when not, still come out with a victory. The fact that I cannot do that in the PES 2010 demo (faults aside, as PES 2009 has its own faults) highlights the changes.

It has a slower pace. Dribbling is different; not as easy. The A.I. don't fall for the same old tricks such as the fake shot, turning back on your run to cross with an in-swinger as the defender continues going the other way, the stop dead and instant dash towards the opposide direction which always left your marker for dead, etc.

Is it better than PES 2009? It's difficult to say. Some things appear to be improved while others seem to have taken a step backwards or stayed the same. I personally cannot tell if this code of the game (demo) has 360* movement implimented, or if I simply have not got to grips with it, yet. It is more apparent in the FIFA 10 demo, though. And I'm still undecided in regard to the new tactics, formations, and card system menu/features.

Is it better than the FIFA 10 demo? No. The gameplay is not as fluid nor as responsive. And the passing is not as crisp. It is also not as difficult, and therefore provides less of a challenge. Although it should be noted I have not played the FIFA 10 demo as much. But that is on the agenda for later, to further compare the two.

And whether this code is 50% complete, 65% complete, or 80% complete, etc, it is irrelevant. This is a discussion about the demo, not the final product. They choose to release this demo, whichever code it is, and it will be judged accordingly. The point of a demo is to impress potential buyers, to excite potential buyers, and most of all to entice those potential buyers to part with their hard earned cash. That would have one assume that a demo would be, at the least, a close iteration to that of the final product. If it is not, then that is the pinacle of stupidity, because it will be detrimental to sales.

There is little to really get excited about from the demo, and that is hugely disappointing.
 

steveomilan

Registered User
i have read that this is an early build of pes2010 and that it will be better-alonso is still in the liverpool team.
i will still be buying pes2010 because the other game i find is rubbish and i feel that if both games were fully licensed that most would buy pes.
i still think that that is the only reason that people buy fifa,
i dont think its to do with gameplay,its the presentation that convinces people to buy it.
last year my son convinced me to buy fifa,we had a few games then i put pro evo back on and it was streets ahead!
 

Sweey

*RETIRED*
I had about an hour and a half on the demo there. And I'm a little underwhelmed from the whole experience. There are serious problems with response times, especially in regard to shooting, with first time shots being most problematic.

It does play similar to PES 2009 but, similar is not the same. The change in game speed and gameplay (opponent A.I.) is quite apparent, at least to me. It may be subtle but, it does make a difference. I still play PES 2009 quite regularly and I can dominate more often than not, and even when not, still come out with a victory. The fact that I cannot do that in the PES 2010 demo (faults aside, as PES 2009 has its own faults) highlights the changes.

It has a slower pace. Dribbling is different; not as easy. The A.I. don't fall for the same old tricks such as the fake shot, turning back on your run to cross with an in-swinger as the defender continues going the other way, the stop dead and instant dash towards the opposide direction which always left your marker for dead, etc.

Is it better than PES 2009? It's difficult to say. Some things appear to be improved while others seem to have taken a step backwards or stayed the same. I personally cannot tell if this code of the game (demo) has 360* movement implimented, or if I simply have not got to grips with it, yet. It is more apparent in the FIFA 10 demo, though. And I'm still undecided in regard to the new tactics, formations, and card system menu/features.

Is it better than the FIFA 10 demo? No. The gameplay is not as fluid nor as responsive. And the passing is not as crisp. It is also not as difficult, and therefore provides less of a challenge. Although it should be noted I have not played the FIFA 10 demo as much. But that is on the agenda for later, to further compare the two.

And whether this code is 50% complete, 65% complete, or 80% complete, etc, it is irrelevant. This is a discussion about the demo, not the final product. They choose to release this demo, whichever code it is, and it will be judged accordingly. The point of a demo is to impress potential buyers, to excite potential buyers, and most of all to entice those potential buyers to part with their hard earned cash. That would have one assume that a demo would be, at the least, a close iteration to that of the final product. If it is not, then that is the pinacle of stupidity, because it will be detrimental to sales.

There is little to really get excited about from the demo, and that is hugely disappointing.

Lovely post, especially the bold bit.
 

gadgetdude

Registered User
So my overall impressions were good, i think it's alot more fluid and I can tell konami have worked to get rid of the main bug bears of 2009. Just going to round up what i noticed, i really can't wait to get stuck into the master league.

Good:
- Power gague isn't as sensitive, can actually put power on shots and crosses over the half way mark and not worry about them going into the car park
- Can't sprint past players as easy or zig-zag towards the defence
- the 360 motion is noticable, adds a different feel and makes passing better
- keepers don't spill almost at all, also better at saving
- long range shooting feels more weighted, i can feel some pes5 like long range shots coming on soon :happy:
- graphics are much nicer and the animations better
- some known music! although i liked the pes2009 music, come along way from PES2008.

Bad:
- First touch/movement feels a little delayed, when wanting to turn a player it's tricky, also applies to when trying to keep the ball in play
- Crosses are easier but feel a little too easy, not hard to score from need the defence to challenge the ball a bit more
- through ball is better on some situations but it's hard to get a long weighted through ball


Sure theres more bad point I'll pick up on after some more time playing, so far a noticable inprovement on 2009.
 

shankly is god

Registered User
Im quite impressed about this demo (going on the basis that i really enjoyed pes 2009)....

from the get go I was wowed the menu is very stylish and I enjoyed the pre game set up, theres alot to do....

the build up of the game is really good altho im saddened that there is no official anfield tunnel with the players tapping the "this is Anfield" sign...but oh well.. graphically i was stunned, the lighting complimented the skin tones and pours on the players faces...and the texture of the kits and grass looks stunning on my 50" sony tv.. I payed attention to the shadows and they do indeed hit everything from the redgra to the crossbar...

as for the game play you can feel that it has been thickened up and feels alot more natural, the turns look fluid and feel like its a real possibility to achieve.
In my first game (lpool v Barca) I passed around the ball to players in space to get forward and altho the defenders follow every move i make and get close they never really made a challenge until the ball was virtually theirs on some occasions but mostly i felt satisfied with the way the AI acted...

my first goal came from a gerrard heavy shot just inside the 18 yards after making a good run after babel squeezed off a lucky pass.. while i was going through this motion i felt a real sense of momentum as if this result could not have happened if i carefully weaved in and out of the defenders.... the goalie Valdes made a save but couldnt catch it leaving the ball bounce in off the post...

there are like in most games one or two issues that shouldve been let out but however i dont feel it impedes the game play all that much...

Ive only played 3 games and i know that its hard to make a judgement based on little games as each one is diferent etc but so far im very impressed and altho its not 100% passion its well on the way to becoming a passionate rewarding exciting football game...

I for one cant wait to see this video game on the shelvs come next month

Shanks
 

tangerine_machine

Registered User
I had about an hour and a half on the demo there. And I'm a little underwhelmed from the whole experience. There are serious problems with response times, especially in regard to shooting, with first time shots being most problematic.

It does play similar to PES 2009 but, similar is not the same. The change in game speed and gameplay (opponent A.I.) is quite apparent, at least to me. It may be subtle but, it does make a difference. I still play PES 2009 quite regularly and I can dominate more often than not, and even when not, still come out with a victory. The fact that I cannot do that in the PES 2010 demo (faults aside, as PES 2009 has its own faults) highlights the changes.

It has a slower pace. Dribbling is different; not as easy. The A.I. don't fall for the same old tricks such as the fake shot, turning back on your run to cross with an in-swinger as the defender continues going the other way, the stop dead and instant dash towards the opposide direction which always left your marker for dead, etc.

Is it better than PES 2009? It's difficult to say. Some things appear to be improved while others seem to have taken a step backwards or stayed the same. I personally cannot tell if this code of the game (demo) has 360* movement implimented, or if I simply have not got to grips with it, yet. It is more apparent in the FIFA 10 demo, though. And I'm still undecided in regard to the new tactics, formations, and card system menu/features.

Is it better than the FIFA 10 demo? No. The gameplay is not as fluid nor as responsive. And the passing is not as crisp. It is also not as difficult, and therefore provides less of a challenge. Although it should be noted I have not played the FIFA 10 demo as much. But that is on the agenda for later, to further compare the two.

And whether this code is 50% complete, 65% complete, or 80% complete, etc, it is irrelevant. This is a discussion about the demo, not the final product. They choose to release this demo, whichever code it is, and it will be judged accordingly. The point of a demo is to impress potential buyers, to excite potential buyers, and most of all to entice those potential buyers to part with their hard earned cash. That would have one assume that a demo would be, at the least, a close iteration to that of the final product. If it is not, then that is the pinacle of stupidity, because it will be detrimental to sales.

There is little to really get excited about from the demo, and that is hugely disappointing.

So eloquently put and perfectly highlights what I was getting at!! :agree:
 

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