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I don't blame you for your negative approach, I guess my point is that I don't really understand a lot of the disappointment... On one side, I do think PES 2010 and FIFA 2010 are very outdated games that do not offer anything truly new. But on the other hand, I don't see anyone asking for...

I don't like your negative approach towards everything, but still, I would have to agree with you on this one... Konami was saying wonders about PES 2011, a lot of fan-boys claiming PES 2011 had already been completed -- turns out the game is very far from finished... As for the articles, I...

If Konami was to include a total of 10 Classic Players into the game, with their real names and faces... which classic players would you like to see in High Def Graphics? Keep in mind that FIFA already has legendary players such as: Zico, Eric Cantona, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Hugo...

* Intro, After reading a couple of early articles about PES 2011, I wanted to elaborate on a future problem that is looming. From what I read about the Eurogamer article, here’s one thing that stood out for me: ——————————————————- Seabass: “Every time we release a new version we’ve found that...

Good points, But it's very simple, look at both Barcelona and Chelsea in real-life, look at why they are so difficult to beat; it's simple, Barcelona's short-passing possession football cannot be simulated correctly in a 10 Minute Simulation. You cannot play Football in 10 Minutes, PES is more...

That's one of the key limiting factors... Which is exactly why the game needs massive improvements in the off-the-ball play. It needs to be developed from scratch, instead of tweaking and re-tweaking on the same flawed concept. PES10 and FIFA10 are both arcade-like experiences, these...

No offense taken, but rest assured -eventually- you will get a proper response. But for now, I must say that you talk about PES10 like if it was enough of an improvement when it is not; as simple as. For me it´s fun, but it´s fun as in Dragon Ball Z Tenkaichi fun... it haves more or less the...

It's pretty straight forward, simply name your top 10 ideas for PES 2011. And if you want to, elaborate on why you want these ideas/features in PES11. * New Animations Although more fluid and easy on the eye, animations remain too basic and plain, with only a handfull of special...

I think disappointment is perfectly obvious. You can go play PES5, and then play PES6, and then go to PES09 -and- it's more or less the same game. We create runs by passing the ball and then tapping the R2 button, same old dribbling concept, nothing innovative on the defensive end, etc, etc...

Yeah I said the same exact thing about FIFA09 - even more scripted and therefore more repetitive than PES09. Of course almost none of my friends agreed with me, as they preferred the more "realistic" approach that FIFA09 offered. And it's very clear that reviewers cannot be trusted these...

You know, I've been rather meticulous when criticizing PES, and yet like most people; I have ignored a very obvious thing for many years now. PES and FIFA cannot improve much further because the 10 Minute Approach cannot handle anymore substance. It's like trying to fit 5 friends on a two...

That's nor realistic at all... CR9 or Messi can dribble and run through a couple of defenders, but that's only a few times in each game, it's not usual. And it's also worth considering that, you can run throught the flanks, like Luis Figo used to do when he played for Barcelona... but it's a...

I just played four 30 minute games, and one 10 minute game and... I must say that the point of this thread still stands. We do have the option to play 30 minute matches, but the four matches I played ended with; 3-17, 4-14, 3-9, and 1-14 scorelines. Pro Evolution 2009 does not haves enough...

Yeah LOL at myself... I go on saying 5 to 10 minute matches are a limitation, and I'm actually choosing to play under this limitation. That said, I do think it's worth talking about it. I mean, nobody has mentioned any differences between 10 minute and 30 minute matches. And considering...

You're absolutely right, my mistake. And yes, it does makes this thread rather pointless. Although not entirely. I've been playing 10 minute matches for so long now that I had forgoten about the 30 minute option... Most of my friends don't like 30 minute matches because of the unrealistic...

Dude, think about it... how many matches do you play whenever you play PES09? In my case, I always play at least 4 matches, each one of 10 minutes. So it's basically the same as playing a 40 minute match, but it's less satisfying, etc. It can be fun at times, it haves a certain "hook" to...

Yeah but this haves little to do with PES 2010. In fact, no new suggestions will make it to PES10. Regardless of how good PES10 will be, I just do not think a realistic simulation is possible to accomplish within the 5 to 10 minute restriction. New animations, motion capture, 360 movement...

10 Minute Simulation "holding back the genre" Here is the question that I'd like to ask to anyone interested, Do you guys think that 5 to 10 minute matches are holding back the genre? I've been thinking about that for awhile now and, I'm convinced that 5 to 10 minute matches are as much a...

To be honest, the response times of PES09 are horrible... I have not played the demo yet, but I'm not worried about the response times as I think anything is better than 2009. PES09 haves a few nice touches, but the response times is one of the negatives for me... the sharp turns are...

Yeah, but I mainly use the Edit Mode to create players... and in that particular area PES09 failed, no preset faces, you cannot change facial hair on faces already in the game, no special hairstyles, etc, etc. Perhaps the Kit editor was good enough, but I cannot understand why the Face editor...