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I think people are too accustomed to the FIFA ratings system.

I like it. The animations (though not perfect) are much improved, the pace of the game looks far more considered and overall it just looks much more alive.

Resources mean nothing without the knowhow. I mean for all their resources it's only now that they're realizing that stats determine a footballers ability and are key to a true football simulation, which I've been fully aware of since ISS Pro '98 on the old PS. When I was 10 years old. I'm not...

Really? I hate the idea. Imagine uploading a fully edited option file and still having the commentator calling Arsenal 'North London'.

Looks interesting, wouldn't describe EA finally implementing the fundamental rules of the game in FIFA as seriously impressive but they're definitely taking steps towards categorizing their player database. Whether they'll outdo PES I very much doubt it. PES has had a semblance of individuality...

PES5 still sits on top of the world for me.

Looks like this is gonna be a fascinating year for football gaming.

Like FIFA 10 did? The last FIFA game to blow minds was FIFA 09, if I remember correctly FIFA 10 was very anticlimactic. I'm not disagreeing that FIFA is the king right now, but it still has nothing on PES for individuality. As bad as PES has gotten technically the core of the game remains...

Really? I mean... really??? Did you ever watch Seba Veron in his prime? Because wow... just... wow.

Persistent one, aren't you? I'm not gonna bother explaining my point of view to you again because you won't bother taking it for what it is, your schtick seems to be twist words to antagonize. 'Debating' with you, and I use that term loosely, is a monumental waste of time, brain power, and...

"They're taken" is clearly a grammatical error, no subject-verb agreement, and I didn't notice it until you pointed it out. I've already addressed this and explained what I meant, if you wanna continue ignoring that then thats your problem. Because I didn't base it purely on gameplay...

You know what, I'm sick of your presumptuous bullshit, you pretentious twat. I said it "looks like they're taking a massive stride", present tense, which is a suggestion that this game could be very good based on what we've seen from Konami, not "they've taken". Very similar phrases but...

I'm not making any conclusions, I didn't say they've done it or they've almost done it, I'm not giving the game a verdict (I'd have to see a proper gameplay video and play it myself), but after the last few years its obvious how their development philosophy has changed and much work they're...

@Stanchion. I think its entirely possible to be optimistic and subjective, its simply expressing your point of view while acknowledging the faults. Taking the rough with the smooth. Whether you enjoy it or not is a matter of our own expectations. Going back to that; I'm not saying the video's...

I don't know what some are seeing. It's not quite night and day but there's a clear difference in animation quality, pace, and fluidity between PES2010 and what we've just seen. Sometimes I think its a case of selective sight, but thats just my opinion. When you consider it's an early May build...

Lets not forget it was an early May build seeing as it was on the headquarters tour, and Konami had since said a lot of animations haven't been put in yet, including the new varied pressuring system. Plus its being used purely for implement sound effects to the game so there's every possibility...

I'm definitely liking what I'm seeing. It has that early code, rough around the edges look about it, and there's definitely some transition animations to be added, but its a clear improvement from PES2010.

No, they didn't. Everything in that video looked smooth but that was a skills demonstration. It's not the game in full flight.

If you're looking for a simulation then fully manual passing is the exact opposite of what you'd want in a football game. A simulation is supposed to be just that, a simulation of real life players and their real life abilities. Fully manual passing puts far too much emphasis on the skill of the...

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