i voted for NHL 2005. as jamez said. it always seems more luck than judgement when scoring. i like hockey games. i think there pretty good. but after a bit its just too much the same. ESPN 2k4 i didnt like. wasnt really the fast hockey game i was expecting. where the EA series offer a faster more realistic game. until it comes to scoring. thats my opinion. not played a hockey game for a while though. NHL 2005 is looking good though