Ideas for MLO PES2012

[gunnerglow]

MLO is by far the best thing PES has done for years. Giving the fact that 2011 is MLO's debut season, i must look past some of the small things that bother me and congratulate knoami on implementing a great idea.

However as with all things there is always room for improvement.

What would you like to see in MLO PES2012?

 

[gunnerglow]

1) The scripting/momentum system has to be toned down.

2) Players form arrows should be decided by the players previous match ratings and their form value. At the moment is just too random. Injuries/cards should be carried over.

3) Classic players need to be added to the transfer market.

4) Match fees should not relate to the value of your squad of players but to what division you are in. For example, matches in div 5 cost £50,000 div 5 tournament cost £250,000k. Matches in div 4 cost £75,000 etc etc.

5) Your club should gain a reputation level, based on past performance, your players, your Dis-connection rate, what division you are in etc. Your gate receipts should be related to this reputation level. The higher your rep, the more fans turn up. (see point 8)

6) Coach mode should be run on different servers as a different game mode.

7) Competitions should not effect your league status/ranking. Instead quick matches should be renamed, division match and you should only be playing a player from the same division.

8) The current ranking system needs to be scrapped, introduce club reputaion level (see point 5) instead.

9) To determine who gets promoted/relegated use the same formular as in a tournament only majke it 12 matches. So over the week your final league postion would be decided by your best 12 match streak within the week. This means you cant get promoted after playing only one match.

 

[iamcanadianeh]

I don't agree with number 4 above, but the rest are good ideas worth considering IMO.

Also, not sure about classic players.

Some other ideas:

A.) Previous match history - shows what previous results were between you and the player you are up against.

B.) Some form of player growth or development would be nice.

C.) Man of the match award.

D.) Top rated players for the week, including man of the match awards and goals/assists. Would be nice to see your player up there on the list.

E.) Custom stadiums online. Would be nice if you play in your own custom stadium which you develop with funds and which can also imrpove your team's funds.

F.) Get rid of cheats. Also make it so that "play only similar level opponents" actually works. On Xbox the "avoid player" option also doesn't work.

G.) More regular stats updates. Make it so we have to play the market and regularly gain or lose funds.

H.) Save replay option for those special goals you never get to see again. Allow upload to the server so others can watch, rate, etc. This option could appear at the end of the match so that you don't have to annoy the other player by making them watch your replay.

I.) Get rid of the in-game chat option. It's just annoying and honestly I think the game would be better without it. Or at least give us the option to turn it off.

 

[brunosebalo]

1) The scripting/momentum system has to be toned down.

2) Players form arrows should be decided by the players previous match ratings and their form value. At the moment is just too random. Injuries/cards should be carried over.

3) Classic players need to be added to the transfer market.

4) Match fees should not relate to the value of your squad of players but to what division you are in. For example, matches in div 5 cost £50,000 div 5 tournament cost £250,000k. Matches in div 4 cost £75,000 etc etc.

5) Your club should gain a reputation level, based on past performance, your players, your Dis-connection rate, what division you are in etc. Your gate receipts should be related to this reputation level. The higher your rep, the more fans turn up. (see point 8)

6) Coach mode should be run on different servers as a different game mode.

7) Competitions should not effect your league status/ranking. Instead quick matches should be renamed, division match and you should only be playing a player from the same division.

8) The current ranking system needs to be scrapped, introduce club reputaion level (see point 5) instead.

9) To determine who gets promoted/relegated use the same formular as in a tournament only majke it 12 matches. So over the week your final league postion would be decided by your best 12 match streak within the week. This means you cant get promoted after playing only one match.

Very good ideas but number 3 and 4

I can already see cheaters with 100+ million squad relegating on purpose so he can play (in theory) weaker teams and make his way to the best 16, poor bastards lol

About the classic players I dont know, is bad enough already with Arshavins and Robbens and the goddamn low crosses,imagine a noob with five classic strikers near your box like I have seen in some formations lol

 

[lawsy]

You can't have classic players and normal ones as soon as people find out how to cheat they will all have ronaldo, messi , maradon ,pele ,van basten you get the picture but it would be ridiculous also it would be a great idea to play people in the same division I'm in div 1 now but there just arnet enough people playing to do that

 

[alx-9]

My biggest suggestion would be some sort of prestige mode, whereby after reaching a certain limit players are encouraged to reset their teams and start in division5 again.

Why would someone reset?
Make new players available at each prestige level. It could be something like this:

Start: Only players at in-game clubs are available
1st prestige: players in national teams but without a club become available (example: players from Schalke, HSV, 2nd divisions etc)
2nd prestige: classic players that are still active become available (example: Juninho, Van Nistelrooy, Beckham)
3rd prestige: classic players not at a classic team become available (example: Best, Hugo Sanchez, Schmeicel)
4th prestige: all classic team players become available (example: Maradona, Pele, Gullit)


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The limit could be once you reach division 1 and have 75+ million worth in assets. By making it interesting to reset your team, it drastically increases the longevity of the game and it means you also see a lot less 100+ million teams.


Win?

 

[gunnerglow]

some great ideas here. I hope konami are looking into some of these features and do not just release 2012 as a carbon copy!

Previous match history - Great idea.

Man of match awards - I returned to PES2011 after whoring fifa 09,10. Hats of to EA for stats and such. You can check players passing percentage, dribbles etc.

All of these things are recordwed in PES - in the player ratings after a match you can view them. We need more depth and an overview here.

 

[gunnerglow]

My biggest suggestion would be some sort of prestige mode, whereby after reaching a certain limit players are encouraged to reset their teams and start in division5 again.

Why would someone reset?
Make new players available at each prestige level. It could be something like this:

Start: Only players at in-game clubs are available
1st prestige: players in national teams but without a club become available (example: players from Schalke, HSV, 2nd divisions etc)
2nd prestige: classic players that are still active become available (example: Juninho, Van Nistelrooy, Beckham)
3rd prestige: classic players not at a classic team become available (example: Best, Hugo Sanchez, Schmeicel)
4th prestige: all classic team players become available (example: Maradona, Pele, Gullit)


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The limit could be once you reach division 1 and have 75+ million worth in assets. By making it interesting to reset your team, it drastically increases the longevity of the game and it means you also see a lot less 100+ million teams.


Win?

personally i really like this idea.

Certain crieria could be set within each prestige and depending on how quickly you meet theses criteria, the quicker you can prestige to the next level.

Such as....

Level 1
-win 25 matches
-score 50 goals
-keep 15 clean sheets
-Have one player score a hatrick

Level 2
-win 100 matches
-progress to the knock-out stages of a tournament
-win 5 matches on the trot
-have one player assist 25 goals

etc. etc.

This could be really fun trying to achieve more and more difficult criteria.

 

[iamcanadianeh]

Win?

Yes. Winning. Every day.

 

[claret]

i would like to see the previous history stats and also i would like a training arena like the offline mode where you could trial a potential purchase, but they could regulate it by having to pay a small fee to use a player and have to have enough funds to buy him also, that way you could actually have training matches against other players without fear of losing loads of money or ranking points if the new player just doesnt fit in with how you play.

I also like the idea of regulating match fee's and ranking points won/lost during matches.

 

[iamcanadianeh]

i would like to see the previous history stats and also i would like a training arena like the offline mode where you could trial a potential purchase, but they could regulate it by having to pay a small fee to use a player and have to have enough funds to buy him also, that way you could actually have training matches against other players without fear of losing loads of money or ranking points if the new player just doesnt fit in with how you play.

I also like the idea of regulating match fee's and ranking points won/lost during matches.

I was also going to add something along these lines -- friendly matches which you can use to test out formations, get your game back up to snuff if you haven't played for a week, play against friends or even challenge someone specifically who you lost to in the past or with a similarly ranked team you would like to challenge.

As for trailing players, I already do this relatively easily in the edit mode.

Create player>base copy>transfer to your trial squad>start new league, exhibition, or whatever.

 

[gunnerglow]

unranked exhibition matches - great idea, no stats just fun and an opportunity to try out new tactics etc.

I will update the original post with the best/most interesting ideas soon. Keep commenting guys, together we can help konami out here and make MLO what we really want it to be (or at least suggest some great concepts!)

 

[alx-9]

personally i really like this idea.

Certain crieria could be set within each prestige and depending on how quickly you meet theses criteria, the quicker you can prestige to the next level.

Such as....

Level 1
-win 25 matches
-score 50 goals
-keep 15 clean sheets
-Have one player score a hatrick

Level 2
-win 100 matches
-progress to the knock-out stages of a tournament
-win 5 matches on the trot
-have one player assist 25 goals

etc. etc.

This could be really fun trying to achieve more and more difficult criteria.

Yes, specific targets would also be great to keep us busy, but you have to watch out how quick you would get to each new level. Remember, you'd be resetting your team to the default ML players worth about 15 million whilst all the other players in the game keep raising in value over time. So in that sense 25 wins would be way too low in my opinion. I know its just an example, but it would really have to be more like 100 wins as thats when you'll have a few big names in your team.

Although I suppose you could perhaps add challenges like you mentioned, which would unlock players/teams without having to reset your team.

 

[iamcanadianeh]

Would be nice if you could access and edit your MLO squad on a mobile phone. Make trades, adjust strategies, show your firends your team while you're at the pub, etc. You could also (maybe) play in coach mode this way.

 

[Bredazuid]

MLO2 in my dreams

Hello in my dreams PES MLO2 shpuld be something like this. I hope you understand my ideas since my english is not good :unsure:

MLO2 WITH YOUR REALLY OWN TEAM

How nice should it be that you start MLO2 with your really own team.

You create your own 16 players (names, looks, ect)
Every new MLO player start with the same ammount of quality points to fill the stats of his players the way he wants ofcourse to a certain maximum. Besides that a limited ammount of special ability awards. You have to divide all quality points over the stats of all players. Every player need to have a certain minimum to avoid undue differences between players.

The level of the startup team is amateur level. This means the overal quality is poor so you need money and better player to become a real professional team and maybe end up with a squad as Barcelona or real madrid.

Extra feature 1 – it should be possible to create up to a 5 teams so you can play MLO with several teams ofcourse not at the same time and not in same divisions
Extra feature 2 – Pick your own team colours visible for other online players as well.
Extra feature 3 – Own stadium to play your home matches against online opponents (no cartoons)

MORE REAL LEAGUES & CUPS = MORE FUN

How more fun is it to play real leagues in terms of playing thesame players twice and really can monitor your opponents. Its easy to create with more divisions. Another advantage is that you can change to a much better rating system.

I used to play a lot of poker and backgammon online and there are much better and competitive ways to run tournaments and leagues.

For example:

Every Tournament or league should be a lobby for a maximum number of players. As soon the lobby is filled the game starts. Entries should be higher to discourage quiters.

What should be great is the following concept:

AMATEUR LEVEL 2

Since you are new at MLO2 you start this adventure at Amateur level 2.

You can choose to play:
- Ranked Match
- Ranked Tournaments
- Ranked Leagues
- Friendly Matches
- Private Tournaments (for your own community)
- Private Leagues (for your own community)

DAILY TOURNAMENTS – LEAGUES

Daily Tournament 1.

32 players knock out (sit & go)
Home and away matches (so you can show your own stadium)
Winner receives entry ticket for qualifying tournament)
Runner up can entry another one for free

Daily Tournament 2.

5 Teams League (sit & go)
Home and away matches
Winner receives entry ticket for qualifying tournament)
Runner up can entry another one for free

Daily Qualifying Tournament

Winners of DT1 / DT2 are enabled to join the Daily Qualifying tournament.
128 players knock out (sit & go)
1 match per round (eventually groupfase = ko)
Winner promotes to D5 professional status.

TRANSFERS AND POPULARITY

If you are in amateur level you can earn money like now to save for new players. Even if you have enough money good players are ofcourse not interested to play in the amateur leage. So you need to get it to the next level to get the players you want. To increase your chance of getting good players there should be a popularity factor.

If you often reach it to the semi finals or better you will generate more fans what means a bigger stadium and more money. Good results and/ or more fans can also lead to your first sponsor.

Dont forget you start as an amateur somewhere on a trainingfield without sponsors or fans.
You should also be rewarded with fans and a sponsor(s) for playing a lot of matches and not quiting or cheating otherwise. If you for example dont finish leages or tournaments your fans and sponsors will not like it.

 

[gunnerglow]

I am going to create some new threads which will specifically be about ceratain areas where improvement is needed. Please contribute your ideas.

 

[gunnerglow]

H.) Save replay option for those special goals you never get to see again. Allow upload to the server so others can watch, rate, etc. This option could appear at the end of the match so that you don't have to annoy the other player by making them watch your replay.

You can do this, just as you suggested! Once the match has finished go to 'highlights', cycle through them until you find the one you want and on PS3 press square to save it. The buttons are listed at the bottom of the screen if you are on a different console

 

[iamcanadianeh]

You can do this, just as you suggested! Once the match has finished go to 'highlights', cycle through them until you find the one you want and on PS3 press square to save it. The buttons are listed at the bottom of the screen if you are on a different console

Sweet, I thought I tried that. Will have to see if it works on 360 as well.

Would be nice to be able to share them though as well.

 

[gunnerglow]

Sweet, I thought I tried that. Will have to see if it works on 360 as well.

Would be nice to be able to share them though as well.

yes like on fifa world.

 

[TICKATOCKA]

why not have leagues based on the value of your squad so that all the dicks who just wanna play with ronaldo messi etoo ibrahimovic arshavin and so on with their shitey tactic of full power through ball down the wing low cross tap in have to just play each other all the time and the rest of us who want to play an enjoyable compettitive game of PES can do so