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pro evo 4 online HANDS-ON

IIIII23IIIII

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xbox pro evo 4 online HANDS-ON

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October 01, 2004 - After a few false starts, thanks to our buddies at Pelaaja-magazine we were finally able to get our hands on the Xbox version of Pro Evolution Soccer 4, which supports Xbox Live.


We were able to play quite a few matches against various European-based players and most of the time the gameplay experience was very smooth. The only snag is that Pro Evolution Soccer is designed for the PS2 Dualshock Controller and not the Xbox Controller S. As the latter lacks conveniently placed R2/L2 buttons (those button functions are mapped onto the White/Black buttons), it's almost impossible to use the important sidestep move. It seems you can do it with the Right Trigger, but it's still a tad difficult. On the other hand, the Controller S' analogue stick is far better than the Dualshock's. It's mainly a question of getting used to things.

While the framerate is rock solid 60fps during offline gameplay, the graphics have a strange softness to them, which makes the game look a bit poorer than the PlayStation 2 version. It doesn't make the game look bad at all, but if you have the PS2 and Xbox versions running side by side, it's pretty evident that the PS2 looks better. Still, the facial models and graphics in general are excellent on both versions. The animation especially is sublime.

While we are at it, we played the PlayStation 2 retail version of Pro Evolution Soccer 4 and the team rosters are "semi-up to date". Michael Owen is in Real Madrid, but Jonathan Woodgate isn't. This means that players transferring late such as Samuel Eto'o are not in Barcelona and Luis Garcia and Xabi Alonso aren't at Liverpool. Still, it's very easy to update teams manually inPES4, so it wont take too long at all to update the teams. You can load up flags and player names from your PES3 save file. Also the licensed club kits are now the official 2004 - 2005 season's whereas in Winning Eleven 8 they were based on last seasons. This is very notable with teams like Juventus.

Now back to the Xbox version.

Once you log on the main menu is bare bones and gives you the option of going into a Quick Game, set up an OptiMatch or create your own game. You can also check out weekly and monthly stats, where you can see whose got the most points. The points are accumulated through the amount of matches played, won and lost.
You can glance at the Players list, which tells you who is online and the self-explanatory Friends list. There is no separate league or download options as of yet. Nor are there separate servers or lounges, but this could change in the final game. Also the lack of a "News/Updates" area is strange.

Once you set up a match and connect with another player (you can only play 1-on-1 matches), you go into the formation set-up screen and from there move to the match. You can talk via the Xbox communicator and you can, of course, turn voice communication off, or alter your voice with the customary Xbox Live 3.0 voices. There's no text messaging thankfully.

While both players set up their respective teams, the players cannot see the strategy and tactics changes of the other player, which helps to keep the gameplay open. You can, of course, see player substitutions from the other side.



In our case, setting up took a good eight minutes to set up Spain's midfield four of Vicente, Baraja, Valeron and Joaquin with Fernando Torres and Raul getting the nod in attack. The sad defense comprised from the right: Salgado, Helguera, Marchena and Puyol.

When online, you cannot change your control setup or camera angle. You can alter the match variables such as weather, stadium, referee, overtime (Silver/Gold), penalties, time of day, player condition, club/national/both teams and the like. When it comes to the control method and camera angle, you will be using the ones you set up for yourself in the offline game. Let's say you use a wide angle the other player uses a Long view, then you both play using your own preferred views so no compromise is necessary.

Whenever there's a dead ball situation like a free-kick or a goal-kick, a timer counts down, so if you decide to abstain from shooting the ball for two hours your player will kick the ball automatically once the timer counts down.

You cannot directly go to the tactics setup during the match. To pause, you'll first need to request a pause from the other player and once he accepts, the next time the ball goes out of play, you can access the tactics screen. You can do this up three times during a match.

The gameplay online was almost as smooth as playing at home, with just the tiniest bit of lag, which made it difficult to use the shooting power bar accurately. Still, on most accounts the online experience was very smooth.

The Pro Evolution Soccer 4 Xbox Live experience can be termed as very efficient and smooth. It lacks the pizzazz of ESPN sports games online elements, but it does finally offer a chance to play the beautiful game online on the Xbox.

-- Thomas Puha
 
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Kewell[AUS]

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looks pretty solid

interesting about the graphics though, as its usually Xbox that comes out on top and
i guess everyone will be buying a ps2 controller adaptor since its so hard to use the xbox one.
 

MattShez

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IGN said:
You cannot directly go to the tactics setup during the match. To pause, you'll first need to request a pause from the other player and once he accepts, the next time the ball goes out of play, you can access the tactics screen. You can do this up three times during a match.

Its a bit like ISS on the SNES then , you have to request a change with the "select button and wait untill the ball goes out of play, pretty good for all those little problems then eh?
 

t1000v2.0

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About the graphics looking softer. I noticed that at Gamestars live event. Just not as sharp as the ps2 one, that is why I was voicing my concern a little as I felt the ps2 version looked better which is strange considering X-box has the betetr graphics capabilities.
 

Milosh

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t1000v2.0 said:
About the graphics looking softer. I noticed that at Gamestars live event. Just not as sharp as the ps2 one, that is why I was voicing my concern a little as I felt the ps2 version looked better which is strange considering X-box has the betetr graphics capabilities.


I do not want to be biased or trying to prove anyone wrong, but I don;t think people used the same connections for both versions of the game. Even if they do, the one that is connected on the 1st input, is always sharper than 2nd one. So that might have to do with it.

I use component cables, on 50/60Hz Sony TV, and Xbox version is sharper than PS2.
 

Gunplay

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While the framerate is rock solid 60fps during offline gameplay, the graphics have a strange softness to them, which makes the game look a bit poorer than the PlayStation 2 version. It doesn't make the game look bad at all, but if you have the PS2 and Xbox versions running side by side, it's pretty evident that the PS2 looks better.
I'm still scratching my head, about this comment above. The Xbox is better than the PS2 all around apart from the controller. Why are the graphics shiter on the Xbox ?
 

Mike69

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Gunplay said:
I'm still scratching my head, about this comment above. The Xbox is better than the PS2 all around apart form the controller. Why are the graphics shiter on the Xbox ?

coz its a straight port. its not using the xbox hardware fully
 

Giggsy11

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I have said many times to ps2 controller is better and that has bean confirmed, also did u read that you can't setup tournaments at the moment? that means all these tournaments people are setting up won't work until they add the option unless we all just have 1v1ones and post the results on the forums which wouldn't feel as good.
 

cietwierz

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Gunplay said:
I'm still scratching my head, about this comment above. The Xbox is better than the PS2 all around apart from the controller. Why are the graphics shiter on the Xbox ?
 

jonneymendoza

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man what a dissapointment, now i deffinetly know its not worth buying a xbox just 2 play online!! allow that man, u guys who have got an xbox just 2 play online will b disapointed. not worth £160 for online play, hell no. plus with shit graphics? man that takes a piss
 

MattShez

PPL Manager
jonneymendoza said:
man what a dissapointment, now i deffinetly know its not worth buying a xbox just 2 play online!! allow that man, u guys who have got an xbox just 2 play online will b disapointed. not worth £160 for online play, hell no. plus with shit graphics? man that takes a piss

hey it said that the graph were slightly different to the PS2 version not s**t so f**k off you glory hunting PS2 lover, you stick to your games with R2-D2 and the occasional Friend.

Dont just have a pop at Xbox because you lol without one are jealous!
 

Mike69

Registered User
jonneymendoza said:
man what a dissapointment, now i deffinetly know its not worth buying a xbox just 2 play online!! allow that man, u guys who have got an xbox just 2 play online will b disapointed. not worth £160 for online play, hell no. plus with shit graphics? man that takes a piss

£160?????????????/

wot about the people who already have XBL for other games? its gonna cost me the same its gonna cost u to get the PS2 version :p

btw, the graphics are not sh*t they are just not as polished as the PS2 version.

also the funny thing about this is that talking about graphics is a FIFA approah lol :D
 

big jizzle

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but aren't they comparing the ONLINE graphics of the xbox compared to the OFFLINE ps2 version so for all we kno the xbox version may look jus as good as or even better than the ps2 version offline.
 
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