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Lörd TH

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Luckily most of the titles have been picked by other publishers, Homefronts gone to Crytek and Metro's gone to Koch Media (Dead Island/S.T.A.L.K.E.R) I believe.
 
Viperized

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Dundon's said:
A lot of peeps blaming the likes of BF and CoD for the death of the gaming industry now.

Your thoughts?
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I wouldn't say the gaming industry is dead... but all what people ever play is Call of Duty. Loads of devs have been shut down this gen.
 
Jonno394

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Nah you can't blame COD and BF for the death of game devs, the vast majority of people i know who play them only play them and nothing else, they weren't gamers before and wouldn't be buying any other games if they didn't exist.

The way you need to look at it is budgets are now ridiculously high, when a game like Darksiders 2 needs to sell 3 million copies to break even, then you know something is wrong. In years gone by, reaching 1 million sales worldwide was an amazing achievement, when costs are so high that this is no longer a milestone then a collapse is inevitable.
 
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Aye, for the record that wasn't my view but one I read quite a lot when looking at peoples comments regards the fall of THQ. CoD and BF do have a monopoly of the gaming world though, almost everyone with a PS3/360 plays them from one release all year round until the next release with a few lil breaks in between for the odd few titles.

The thing about these games aswell in my opinion is that you can never beat them, only continue on for the rest of your gaming life killing and spawning for however long that may be. Imagine these kids in like 20 years time when they hang up their boots? Child asked them, what did you play when you were a gamer?, reply...

I like a bit of BF3 but ffs I'm not going to spend the rest of my life stuck inside the FPS box.
 
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None of THQ's games were in competition with CoD/BF so that argument is redundant. Well I guess you could say Homefront was but it was never going to be as popular as those two games, although now it's been taken over by Crytek it could get a following, especially with the CryEngine behind it!
 
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COD and BF this gen are the arcade quarter eaters of the 80's.

There have always been games that held a monopoly over the average buyer, most recently you had the guitar hero type games, before that the Tony Hawks, and sport games will always move massive numbers each year, but never on this scale

I think a lot of it is due to the console userbases growing to include an expanded audience this gen, that might not have been interested in previous gens and alot of these, I hate this term, Casual gamers, only buy 1 maybe two games a year, and these are the mass marketed, blockbuster, online social ones that they can play their friends.

I think the explosion of the FPS is similar to a fad, and the fact that this gen has lasted longer means developers are less interested to take risks with new IPs or gameplay ideas as historically, the further you get in to a generation the lower your chances of a success are. When the next gen starts I HOPE we will see devs trying new things rather than expecting people to buy the same games they've been playing this gen. I seriously doubt that your average Joe COD player will be willing to drop £400+ in October this year to buy a next gen COD, especially when it releases on PS3 and Xbox (Activison and EA will never move the series exclusively to next gen, it would be a ridiculous business decision especially when they have an audience of millions with current gen consoles).

Thierry Henry said:
None of THQ's games were in competition with CoD/BF so that argument is redundant.
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Though I agree, when you look at the bigger picture, all games are fighting for the same amount of limited money the average consumer has.
 
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Your point about this been a generational thing is a valid one, but when you compare the 80's arcade games to 2 titles there's a bit of a mismatch. The 80's have provided us with hundreds of quality household name classics. Where as now there's like 10-20 stand out titles throughout the entire PS3/360 era which is now spanning over 7 years!!!

That's heading towards a decade of gaming.
 
Jonno394

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Well, your opinion is vaild, but I specifically said "arcade quarter eaters", so I wasn't looking at the whole decade and the games that were released on home consoles, I was merely stating that I feel the same feeling of instant gratification achieved in a brief quarter fuelled life/death on an arcade machine session is the same as a life/death in an online game of COD.

That being said, I have found countless titles this gen that I adore, none of those are FPS games. Originality in the world is dying because budgets are higher and devs will take less risks, but tbh, nearly every idea has been done before. This has been in place this whole generation, and is the very reason why, as you rightly say, there were more standout games/names in the 80's.
 
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I just think the release of a new update every 12 months is a bit much. Basically you're paying over the top for a few new features and maybe nicer graphics, though this is very minimum. All in all you're stuck in the mud.

Is there any real difference between Fifa12 V Fifa13 for example? Yet there's no room for another football game in the market to even try and develop a new game and at the end of the day we're stuck with this one product and every year it's the same thing with a few tweaks, a lot of the time then the tweaks are not for the better.

When I was in my prime I had Kick Off, Sensible Soccer and ISS to choose from, look at the football games of today and you have one to choose from and at best it's average when you think of the capabilities of the hardware these guys have at their disposal. Using the football games is only an example to help my point but these FPS are tearing the place up. GTA in fairness to them at least leave it a few years but long gone are the days when a title is released, has success and then left at that, kind of like Hollywood in a way. It's lazy and it sucks balls.

All in all this spoils the legendary status a game like Manic Miner holds and same status movies like Cuckoos nest hold for been a one off piece of genius.
 
Viperized

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Jonno394 said:
Nah you can't blame COD and BF for the death of game devs, the vast majority of people i know who play them only play them and nothing else, they weren't gamers before and wouldn't be buying any other games if they didn't exist.

The way you need to look at it is budgets are now ridiculously high, when a game like Darksiders 2 needs to sell 3 million copies to break even, then you know something is wrong. In years gone by, reaching 1 million sales worldwide was an amazing achievement, when costs are so high that this is no longer a milestone then a collapse is inevitable.
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I suppose you are right. PS2 era games didn't need to sell anywhere near as much.

Budgets are overinflated.

I wonder what things will be like next gen.

We are supposed to hear about 720/PS4 news in the upcoming months. Imagine if they release this year? The economy is in the tatters, I can't imagine many going out to buy them.
 
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One of the main reasons I'm flogging my PS3 now is down to the fact that the bollox will drop out of it when the next gen hit the shops. Fifa13 been shit is another reason I'm giving it the road. That game is just so frustrating online it's not even funny.
 
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Dundon's said:
One of the main reasons I'm flogging my PS3 now is down to the fact that the bollox will drop out of it when the next gen hit the shops. Fifa13 been shit is another reason I'm giving it the road. That game is just so frustrating online it's not even funny.
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I'll probably bite depending on the price. That reminds me... time to sell my broken ass 360.
 
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