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shankly is god

Registered User
but can you try explaining that to the people who keep saying fifa 10 will be rubbish when there hasn't even been a gameplay video release of it yet. I am using the logic of the majority of fans on the forum. Can you honestly say that they will change a lot from this build?

your only as good as your last game and fifa 09 in many people opinion was not up to scratch many bad points which i agree at...
 

Dundon's

W.G.P
Most frustrating video to try and watch ever, fact. All I wanted to see was 5 minutes of a bloody game without some robot voiced frog pausing up every half a second. That said I like the addition of sliders but I got the idea after like a minute in.

Roll on next week.
 

PES 4eva

Registered User
i reckon pes is gonna pull somethin out of the bag we'll find out wen gamescom starts

, my question is; gamescom goes for 4 days, which one of those 4 days (August 19- August 23) will we find out about the so called "big news".

and for those worrying that fifa will be better this year, worry no more fifa looks exactly the same as fifa 09, and the only big improvement of the game seems to be of 360 degree dribbling, but then agen thats only my opinion.

plz answer my question up top.

cheers:)
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
but can you try explaining that to the people who keep saying fifa 10 will be rubbish when there hasn't even been a gameplay video release of it yet. I am using the logic of the majority of fans on the forum. Can you honestly say that they will change a lot from this build?

There has been a gameplay video release, 2 mins off footage from the earliest build released in may, that was months ago, and it was looking better than 09 already. Ive seen glimpses of a later build as well.
 

shankly is god

Registered User
No dont say Fifa has flaws, it doesnt you know, it might upset people on a PES forum.







I was being sarcastic of course.

ha ha i gathered you were mate no need to tell me as you kinda ruined the illusion....

but its true fifa 09 in my eyes was a massive let down you can have loads of stadiums, balls and supposedly awesome graphics but in my eyes its just a polished Turd....
 

FIORE_FAN

Registered User
ha ha i gathered you were mate no need to tell me as you kinda ruined the illusion....

but its true fifa 09 in my eyes was a massive let down you can have loads of stadiums, balls and supposedly awesome graphics but in my eyes its just a polished Turd....

I'm sorry to say this as a PESfan since ISS Pro Evo 1 on PS1; but I really don't think that FIFA09 is that bad. Actually I chose it instead of PES this year, for the first time ever. I felt that EA had taken gigantic steps forward, whereas Konami was just getting nowhere... At the end - IMO - we had two games that were almost equally good, it was really just upto what you wanted of a game. I fell for the nice animations and all the small details in animations and the graphics in general, that made FIFA look and feel so much more real. On top of that, I really like the manual control setup - and then you should really not ever play on the two easiest levels - since then you won't get a proper challenge. At the end I guess that all the licenses turned me over, so I was able to play as my favorite team, OB from denmark.

I have to stress here that I used to be a hardcore gamer. But now at age 34 I live with my wife and our daughter who is almost two years old, have an unusually busy job (graphics designer) and love playing golf when time allows. So I havn't got as much time on my hands anymore to play those multiple seasons in ML and so on. Therefore FIFA has worked wonders for me this year. No real editing needed so I shouldn't "waste" time on that (although I've always loved editing!).
For you guys, who get to play 5+ seasons of ML, I really don't know if FIFA would be too shallow. I think it worked "wonders" this year. It felt real with the manual controls and for me, I could make the sliders work!? Someone in here has said that the sliders really doesn't work well, but I can really feel the difference when I make changes in them.
But a major reason why I choose FIFA and not PES in 09, was that I felt that PES had turned into a sprintfest. Give the ball to either Messi, Eto'o, Rona7do og Rooney - and you felt you only needed to play with that single player and sprint from everyone, as you used to in FIFA!!?!?!

Now with PES showing signs of returning its simulations roots, I'm really eager to see what it turns out to be. I don't think it stands and falls with 360 movement. For me I think that both 16 or 32 angles would be sufficient. 8 though is NOT enough. With the news out from PES so far I could be enough for me to pick up PES again. But I have to say, that if PES turns out to only have 8 ways control again - I might not be that interested. That would just be too sloppy from Konami.
From the news I've heard from FIFA, that game does really sound good too. As I wrote in the comments section on this sites frontpage not too long ago, I had made 4 surgestions to EA on how to improve. So far 3 of those improvements has been mentioned as being implemented in the '10 installment. Now THAT does make the game a bit more interesting i my eyes. But my eyes will once more turn to PES first!

Sorry for this "novel" of a reply, it just flew out...
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
controls and for me, I could make the sliders work!? Someone in here has said that the sliders really doesn't work well, but I can really feel the difference when I make changes in them.

This is the truth, the custom tactics in fifa do work, without them your players dont hold position when attacking and do what they like, i was playing with AC Milan and Flamini and pirlo was pushing forward into the box like Lampard looking to get on the end of things, and players were interchanging postions when i was attacking, I configured the custom tactics to make sure players held their positions when attacking the opposition Penalty area, and didnt abandon their roles, difficult to explain, but i use custom tactics whenever im up setting with a new team, It does work and it is needed.
 

Dragonfly

Waiting....
The gameplay on FIFA09 is excellent. The issue I have with it is the off-line modes get boring quick. It's only good for online play. If PES2009 had FIFA09's gameplay engine and online system, it would have been the best football game ever.
 

shankly is god

Registered User
I'm sorry to say this as a PESfan since ISS Pro Evo 1 on PS1; but I really don't think that FIFA09 is that bad. Actually I chose it instead of PES this year, for the first time ever. I felt that EA had taken gigantic steps forward, whereas Konami was just getting nowhere... At the end - IMO - we had two games that were almost equally good, it was really just upto what you wanted of a game. I fell for the nice animations and all the small details in animations and the graphics in general, that made FIFA look and feel so much more real. On top of that, I really like the manual control setup - and then you should really not ever play on the two easiest levels - since then you won't get a proper challenge. At the end I guess that all the licenses turned me over, so I was able to play as my favorite team, OB from denmark.

I have to stress here that I used to be a hardcore gamer. But now at age 34 I live with my wife and our daughter who is almost two years old, have an unusually busy job (graphics designer) and love playing golf when time allows. So I havn't got as much time on my hands anymore to play those multiple seasons in ML and so on. Therefore FIFA has worked wonders for me this year. No real editing needed so I shouldn't "waste" time on that (although I've always loved editing!).
For you guys, who get to play 5+ seasons of ML, I really don't know if FIFA would be too shallow. I think it worked "wonders" this year. It felt real with the manual controls and for me, I could make the sliders work!? Someone in here has said that the sliders really doesn't work well, but I can really feel the difference when I make changes in them.
But a major reason why I choose FIFA and not PES in 09, was that I felt that PES had turned into a sprintfest. Give the ball to either Messi, Eto'o, Rona7do og Rooney - and you felt you only needed to play with that single player and sprint from everyone, as you used to in FIFA!!?!?!

Now with PES showing signs of returning its simulations roots, I'm really eager to see what it turns out to be. I don't think it stands and falls with 360 movement. For me I think that both 16 or 32 angles would be sufficient. 8 though is NOT enough. With the news out from PES so far I could be enough for me to pick up PES again. But I have to say, that if PES turns out to only have 8 ways control again - I might not be that interested. That would just be too sloppy from Konami.
From the news I've heard from FIFA, that game does really sound good too. As I wrote in the comments section on this sites frontpage not too long ago, I had made 4 surgestions to EA on how to improve. So far 3 of those improvements has been mentioned as being implemented in the '10 installment. Now THAT does make the game a bit more interesting i my eyes. But my eyes will once more turn to PES first!

Sorry for this "novel" of a reply, it just flew out...

nah its cool when you put it like that yes you are right on many levels but for me fifa is lacking that vital extra stat if you like for example i only play on professional as i like to win but also like to have a goal or two scored against me...but im just very frustrated about some of the unrealistic aspects incorporated into the game;

unrealistic stats.... 100% of the time you have players who are known to be slow and old e.g. sami hypia and with someone like messi or ronaldo or torres in some situations you have a head start with them then hypia makes the pace catches up over takes and tackles....totally unrealistic.

Tackles..... the tackling for me is bad no tackle needed just bump into someone they get the ball..there has been many times in the middle of the park where there has been situations of bumber cars bouncing of one another coming away with the ball..

AI.... many times the AI knows what its dooing before you do.. running at full pelt then to stop suddenly and change direction the AI play keeps to you like glue with no chance of getting away.

for me that spoils the game and cant really be bothered to play it only when my brother comes over and then we dont play normal fifa we play long shots only or red card soccer....

there just my opinion of the game and what annoys me but if its all sorted in fifa 10 then i would be alot more positive about fifa if not then pffft waste
 

MysteryMan

Registered User
nah its cool when you put it like that yes you are right on many levels but for me fifa is lacking that vital extra stat if you like for example i only play on professional as i like to win but also like to have a goal or two scored against me...but im just very frustrated about some of the unrealistic aspects incorporated into the game;

unrealistic stats.... 100% of the time you have players who are known to be slow and old e.g. sami hypia and with someone like messi or ronaldo or torres in some situations you have a head start with them then hypia makes the pace catches up over takes and tackles....totally unrealistic.

Tackles..... the tackling for me is bad no tackle needed just bump into someone they get the ball..there has been many times in the middle of the park where there has been situations of bumber cars bouncing of one another coming away with the ball..

AI.... many times the AI knows what its dooing before you do.. running at full pelt then to stop suddenly and change direction the AI play keeps to you like glue with no chance of getting away.

for me that spoils the game and cant really be bothered to play it only when my brother comes over and then we dont play normal fifa we play long shots only or red card soccer....

there just my opinion of the game and what annoys me but if its all sorted in fifa 10 then i would be alot more positive about fifa if not then pffft waste


Thats all very true
 

Die Hard Pes Fan

Registered User
Fifa just in my opinion doesnt feel right, the slide to keep the ball in and the sliding tackle were you skid first and sweep the ball, my favourite tackle personally.

If you dont under stand: Type in on youtube, Best Football/Soccer tackles.

On 24 seconds Ramos tackle, 1 minute 42.

Watch it and reply on this page.

But it would be nice to be able to do all those tackles in the game and not get sent off or booked for a wonder tackle.
 

Sho

Marco
disappointing

no 360 dribbling.

no improved player animations.

trying to advertise their only improvement, which is tactical sliders. This was in fifa 09.

Very disappointing.

Dude why you slagging the game off, it's doing it's best to make it fans happy.

If you wanna chat about FIFA go and post in the other gaming section.

guys i know its a bit off topic but, what is Gamescon or Gamescom whatever it is? cheers :)

Its a game convention, i think.
 
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