The truth about double/triple shot feints

[phelan]

The controls for the double shot feint aren't []-[]-X. The controls are []-X, just like the ordinary shot feint.

The difference between a regular shot feint and the double shot feint is this: to do a double shot feint X must be pressed at the very latest moment before the player would have shot the ball.

What about the triple shot feint, did anyone actually do a triple shot feint with []-[]-[]-X? I sure can't do it that way (not that I haven't tried) but I can do it with these controls,

[]-L1-X

or

[]-R1-X

It's essential that you press L1-X (or R1-X) in the very latest moment. If you look at some of the videos around I think it's obvious that the triple shot feint is really a I'm-gonna-shoot-no-wait-I'm-gonna-chip-it-no-wait-I'll-just-do-a-regular-shot-feint move.

This applies to the PES3 PS2 version. I don't know about other versions, maybe the controls are different in WE7 (doubt it)...

 

[JULIO_ELEVEN]

Hello phelon I'discovered the double and the triple shoot feint. I'm french so I can't really discuss you. But if you want to do the double shoot feint you must activate the chip with square+square.

[]-L1-X : its a double feinte not a triple if you not count the ordinary shoot feint at the end (as me)

if I'm counting like you, my trick []-[]-[]-X its a 4 shoot feint http://www.wearepes.com/~julio/3feintes.avi

 

[phelan]

But if you want to do the double shoot feint you must activate the chip with square+square.

No. Both regular shots and chip shots can be made into a double shot feint. The simplest way is

square - pause - x

This turns an ordinary shot into a feint. Or you can press

square+L1 - pause - x

This turns a lob shot into a feint.

square+square - pause - x

also turns a chip into a feint but only if you're using non-default controls.

[]-L1-X : its a double feinte not a triple if you not count the ordinary shoot feint at the end (as me)

Why not count the ordinary shot feint in the end? A shot feint is a shot feint.

The combination []-L1-X can be an ordinary single shot feint, a double shot feint or a triple shot feint. It all depends on the timing.

if I'm counting like you, my trick []-[]-[]-X its a 4 shoot feint http://www.wearepes.com/~julio/3feintes.avi

Did you make the video? It's a perfect example of a triple shot feint.

But I disagree with the numbering in the clip. Try to put PES3 on your PS2 and move a player close to the keeper and do an ordinary shot by simply pressing [] and nothing else. I've just tried this. The player performs the moves named UNO (1) and DOS (2) in the clip (execpt he shoots the ball in the DOS-part). You wouldn't call that a feint would you? Its just the animation for an ordinary shot. The UNO-part happens when the running animation turns into the shot animation.

The move named TRES(3) in the clip happens because you press L1. The final move, the ordinary shot feint that has no number, happens when you press X.

By the way, your English is perfectly understandable.

 

[JULIO_ELEVEN]

Why not count the ordinary shot feint in the end? A shot feint is a shot feint. The combination []-L1-X can be an ordinary single shot feint, a double shot feint or a triple shot feint. It all depends on the timing.

I not count because its not the same feint.

The combination []-L1-X can be an ordinary single shot feint, a double shot feint or a triple shot feint. It all depends on the timing

I'know this point but I' not count the third

Its just the animation for an ordinary shot. The UNO-part happens when the running animation turns into the shot animation.

no ! it's a shot feint but not entire because the timing is very short (in french its a "feinte de frappe à retardement") you can feint the keeper only with this moove, so it's a shot feint ! you can't feint the keeper only with square no ? (cqfd).

The move named TRES(3) in the clip happens because you press L1.

no.

 

[phelan]

I not count because its not the same feint.

You don't count the last feint performed with X because it doesn't look like the first feints? What about a regular shot feint performed with [] X, you don't count that as a single shot feint either? I sure do.

no ! it's a shot feint but not entire because the timing is very short (in french its a "feinte de frappe à retardement") you can feint the keeper only with this moove, so it's a shot feint ! you can't feint the keeper only with square no ? (cqfd).

Try it! If you move close to the keeper and just press [] the player will do what is called UNO on the clip, and then he will shoot the ball.

In your terminology this would be a feint followed by a shot. Most people just call it a shot, because it is performed with square and nothing else.

 

[Hunter]

i don't think doin' those shot feints are that hard but sometimes my player chip it for no reson what so ever. but i am sure there is one more feint that you can do i'm sure, i did a different feint but i don't know how i did because i pressed all the buttons at once.

 

[phelan]

i don't think doin' those shot feints are that hard but sometimes my player chip it for no reson what so ever. but i am sure there is one more feint that you can do i'm sure, i did a different feint but i don't know how i did because i pressed all the buttons at once.

Besides the regular shot feint there are, to my best knowledge, 4 other kinds of shot feints in the game. See link below for details.

 

[phelan]

BTW,

i don't think doin' those shot feints are that hard.

No, but that's because you're not using the default controls. You've probably set "Hit the Shoot button repeatedly for lob shot 2" to Yes in the Button Configuration screen.

Can you do the triple lob shot feint with [][][]X and this option set to No (default)? I doubt that very much. You have to start a new game before new controls take effect.

but sometimes my player chip it for no reson what so ever.

If you have "Hit the Shoot button repeatedly for lob shot 2" at Yes, that explains it

 

[GO-GO-GOAL!]

I've tried that method and it works like a charm

Cheers

 

[Cellini]

Is there any consensus about if it's more useful to have that "Hit the Shoot button repeatedly for lob shot 2" at Yes or No?

If it's 'Yes', then feints (and lob shot 2) may be easier, but occasionally hesitation on the [] button will cause an unwanted 'lob shot 2'.

If it's 'No', then feints may be harder, but hesitation on [] will still lead to a normal shot and won't be punished with a pathetic lob.

So beginners might be best to start with this set to 'No', until they're comfortable with normal shots, then switch to 'Yes' and try to add a few shot feints to their game?