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Will PES4 be on the PC?

AndrewC

Registered User
Do you think PES4 will be released on the PC after this pretty crappy attempt to port PES3 onto the PC? I have no doubt that PES3 is a great game but Konami's PC programmers aren't doing themselves a favour.

The reason I ask this is because I'm considering buying a PS2 which will at least guarentuee that I will be able to play the next 2 PES games released.
 

pjames

New Member
I certainly think so, Konami have done most of the hard work with the initial port, the changes & improvements for PES4 will (should) be done in parallel.

I've been lucky, had virtually no issues with the pc version (the controls being slightly less responsive is my only gripe) - I haven't played pes3 on my ps2 since i bought the pc version.

And with online play to look forward to...... roll on the release of PES4 for PC :D
 

FakeAccount

Registered User
i hope it does, as i'd much rather crank out the beautiful graphics on my computer monitor using its superior hardware.

and i dont have a ps2 =p ...
 

AndrewC

Registered User
OK, I think I'll hold off buying a PS2 at least for the time being. And I've been doing my research and a PS2 is only a 300Mhz computer! The Xbox and Gamecube are better technically but in terms of games the PS2 wins hands down.

And how I would do anything for PES to run perfectly on the PC. The demo for me worked stunningly at highest resolution and details. I didn't realise how good it was until I got the full version... Now it doesn't even run on lowest resolution and details without slowing down. :(

Can you please tell me your specs and settings so that you got the game to run perfectly?
 

FakeAccount

Registered User
it is true, pes3 is quite a resource hog and demands a somewhat powerful PC

as for my settings, i am running a AMD 2600+ with 512 MB of RAM and an ati radeon 9100. my specs are not the best, but they are good enough to run PES3. it all comes down to processor power and video card capabilities.
 

AndrewC

Registered User
I've got:

P4 1.5Ghz
Gigacube Radeon 9600Pro 128MB
256 MB RAM
Win98
AC'97 on board sound card

I thought the on board sound card could be the problem. I tested a cheap non-onboard sound card and it was even worse. I'm thinking the RAM might be the problem. I got this computer made and just asked for 256MB of RAM, so I probably got some cheap stuff. The CPU is Intel, I did a lot of research on the graphics card and I've got plenty of space on my hard drive. I'm thinking of upgrading my RAM but there are so many different types I have no idea.
 

djdavedoc

Banned
I think PES4 should for sure be on the PC because I think PES3 has sold well on the PC.... I think it is better than the PS2 version due to the ease of editing things in the game and the fact you can make it more authentic and real and thats why Konami put it on the pc I reckon!!
 

djdavedoc

Banned
You need to find out what type of ram you are using now and find out what type of ram your motherboard supports.. Mine is using 512 DDR memory which is 333 mhz.... there are some good places out there who can help you determine what bits n pieces you need.
 
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jag87

Guest
If you have PES3 for PC, the best card is ATI Radeon 9000+. My intel chipset is finding PES3 an ass to run where as my laptop runs it no hesitation. And if the PES3 is on PC, PES4 should be to.
 

t1000v2.0

Registered User
I've not played the PS2 version since i have had the pc version. I've been patching it alot and now only really started playing it proper, But I love....and yes i do have a good spec machine which compliments the game perfectly. I really hope PES4 will be on the pc.
 

djdavedoc

Banned
jag87 quite a bizarre situation.. my mates PC only has a geforce 3 mx and similar spec to yours and his will run the game all be it at lower resolutions!
 

djdavedoc

Banned
Oh yeah just to add... im the same as t1000v2.0 I havent played my PS2 version since I got the PC version! I love the patching.... If only it wouldnt take years to make your own commentary for the game.... Dunno if i could sit there sayin Beckham, Barthez, Seaman, Scholes, Shearer... all the time. lol
 
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jag87

Guest
djdavedoc said:
jag87 quite a bizarre situation.. my mates PC only has a geforce 3 mx and similar spec to yours and his will run the game all be it at lower resolutions!

I dont think it likes my intel chipboard. Ive tried the patches from Konami and they havent helped.
 

drunkensailor

Registered User
AndrewC said:
OK, I think I'll hold off buying a PS2 at least for the time being. And I've been doing my research and a PS2 is only a 300Mhz computer! The Xbox and Gamecube are better technically but in terms of games the PS2 wins hands down.

And how I would do anything for PES to run perfectly on the PC. The demo for me worked stunningly at highest resolution and details. I didn't realise how good it was until I got the full version... Now it doesn't even run on lowest resolution and details without slowing down. :(

Can you please tell me your specs and settings so that you got the game to run perfectly?

u shouldn't look at the processors of consoles, that doesn't say anything, gamecube and xbox are more powerful then any pc in exiastance believ it or not, it's just that the other hardware and even software codes alot of extra graphical stuff in a game while the pc has alot of stuff it has to run like windows and it works alot less eficient then consoles
 

djdavedoc

Banned
PC kicks ass!!! I rememer those old skool dayz when my mates used to battle it out over a war between PS and N64!! And I shut them up by mention two letters... P followed by C! they didnt have an answer to that.. I dont think the GameCube is more powerful than any PC and if you believe that load of rubbish then you need to get your head checked!!!
 

BarryFell

Registered User
drunkensailor said:
u shouldn't look at the processors of consoles, that doesn't say anything, gamecube and xbox are more powerful then any pc in exiastance believ it or not, it's just that the other hardware and even software codes alot of extra graphical stuff in a game while the pc has alot of stuff it has to run like windows and it works alot less eficient then consoles

Rubbish. How could that possibly be true? lol

Here's an article you might like to read.

Question: I've heard that the Playstation 2 is better than my PC, the Dreamcast, and the X-Box, etc... Is this true?</font>

Answer: This is not necessarily true. In terms of pure hardware performance, the PS2 lags behind both the PC and the [projected] X-Box statistics. In some ways it is better than the Dreamcast, but in some ways, it is inferior to the Dreamcast.

I will focus on three things: Processor Speed, Ram, and Graphics, on three systems: Sony Playstation 2, Sega Dreamcast, Microsoft X-Box, and Nintendo Gamecube. Disclaimer: Some of the gamecube info presented here are educated guesses, since few real details are available.

Processor Speeds:
What they mean: Processor speed has to do with how much information a system can processes. This includes Physics, Artificial Intelligence (how enemies move and react), Collision Detection (what makes walls stop you), and has some impact on how many polygons (characters and items) that can be on screen at once.

PS2: 300mhz (Plus extra processors)
DC: 200mhz
Cube: 405mhz
XBox: 733mhz

More details: While the xbox is the winner in all out raw power, the PS2 has multiple processors, which can allow it to do more than 300mhz worth of calculations. But the PS2s extra processors are difficult to use, and so don't necessarily provide as much of a benefit as they should.

Ram:
What it means: This is the amount of memory that the game systems have for general purpose storage. This includes levels, items, characters, enemies, sounds etc. The more memory a system has, the larger the levels it can store in memory at a time, and the less it will have to load from the CD/DVD.

PS2: 32Mb (Some used for video)
DC: 16Mb
Cube: 40Mb (Some used for video)
XBox: 64Mb (Shared with video)

More Details: While the dreamcast has less ram overall, it does not need to store any textures in main ram, since the graphics system has its own memory for textures. All the other machines have to store some textures in the main memory, which decreases the overall free memory to use for other things. This will vary from game to game.

Graphics:
What it means: Graphics are how detailed the environments, characters, and textures can be. When a system has a lower graphics quality, you will see pointy characters (larger polygons), and so-called 'jaggies'. The better a graphics system the console has, the smoother everything looks overall.

PS2: 4mb video ram + 2 processors for transforming data.
DC: 8mb video ram + 4:1 texture compression
Cube: 3mb video ram
XBox: 64mb video ram (shared with main ram) + 6:1 texture compression + Hardware T&L

More Details: This is where things start to get fuzzy. It's hard to quantify these values properly, because there is no direct measurement that can be used. The dreamcast and the xbox can have higher res (more detailed) textures, while the Gamecube and PS2 need to use lower res textures (less detail, more 'blurry' looking walls and floors, etc). But a good game company can hide some of the PS2 and Cube pitfalls to the point where you can't see the difference.

The PS2 and the XBox have special processors allocated to transforming 3d data in to graphics. What this means, is that you can put more polygons in to characters and levels, making them seem 'smoother'. The dreamcast and X-Box can cover this up by using highres textures, which can fool you in to thinking that levels and characters are more detailed.

The gamecube and PS2 both have very little video ram, which would normally mean they can't use much textures, except for the fact that both machines can store textures in main ram, and use the textures from there.

Texture compression means that a texture takes up less space than normally, meaning you can fit more textures in memory. The dreamcast could store around 32Mb of textures when compressed. The X-Box could also store more than usual.

The bottom line:
Systems are only as good as their games. While on the surface, some systems may seem better than others, it's really the games that tell the difference. Don't discount one just because someone tells you to.

So basically consoles aren't a patch on decent PC's. Name me one game that looks better on a console than it does on the PC? Even Medal of Honour on my old AMD XP 1600 and Radeon 7000 64mb looked considerably better than it does on PS2/Gamecube.

In what way do you think consoles are more powerful as we've seen it's certainly not their measly cpus, low RAM or their negliable graphics capabilities when compared to even midrange PCs. You mentioned 'extra hardware'. Like what? Do they have some kind of magical superchips that none of us know about? Fair enough they are more efficient as they don't have an OS and background apps to run as well like a PC but that is irrelevent and only requires a fraction of the total free processing capabilities on a half decent PC.
 

djdavedoc

Banned
Barry well said my son!! I was very general with my reasoning for PC's being far better than consoles and the bullshit that GameCubes are more powerful than any PC is pure bullshit! thanks for backing my words up with facts and figures!
 

CtrlAltDel

Registered User
new consoles come out with nice enhanced graphics engines, but pcs easily get there and pass by them during the same lifecycle of the console system.

each has their place :D
 
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