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:no:OCKR-ASS,
I dont undrstand. if you really like FIFA, by all means go play...go...shoot shoot. Why..why...why are you always here in a PES Forum??? What ae you trying to prove? FIFA is the best? U want all of us to play FIFA?
OK..OK...FIFA is the best...but i'm still playing PES...now shoot off..really...shoot shoot...go...doggie...good dog...go...!!!
Seriously, OCKRASS, no-one is interested in your inexorable peddling of this malignant tosh.
Someone close this thread. What a shambles.
Fact of the matter is, neither game is near perfect and people will have to agree to disagree over which game is 'best'.
Calling each other childish names and writing paragraphs of shit is not going to have any effect on anything. Just makes FIFA and PES players look like a bunch of idiots.
If people don't like PES, then I fail to understand why they are wasting their time on this forum so often?!
What are you trying to prove here?
The problem with him is that he OVERRATES FIFA WAY TOO MUCH and won't admit the obvious faults. That makes him look like a fifa fanboy who can't take negatives towards his fifa.
Note that there are some here that do this to pes too.
THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE IGNORED. OTHERWISE THERE WON'T BE A REASON TO DISCUSS AND NOTHING GOOD WILL COME OUT IN THE END.
Shaun,,
There is no fault with Fifa. It is perfect.
Fifa is the best game ever
:no:
Dude you should have really paid more attention is school. Reading is fundamental.
Do you realize that you are actually in a "Fifa" discussed thread?
The author of the thread opened it up to let us know that like me ....he has now switched to Fifa. Did you even get that.
Jesus ...are you really this dumb?
The feeling is mutual "Pinky".
Quit following my ass around.
This thread discusses Fifa ........you should read more. :blush:
OCKR-ASS,
MY ASS...THERE IS NO PERFECT GAME IN THE WORLD. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PROOF OF YOUR SICKNESS OR BLIND OBSESSES WITH THE GAME. NOW, PLEASE>>>JUST GO AND PLAY YOUR "PERFECT" GAME AND STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE HERE (A PES FORUM). :no:
@OCKRASS: Learn to multi-quote please, it's that button next to "Reply/quote", and it's there for a reason. Use it.
I don't think FIFA will fit my style of playing, since I predominantly play ML, and FIFA just doesn't offer enough in that respect. Perhaps I'll change my mind when EA implements a League Mode that can rival ML.
:w00t
You really fell for that .....shame.
The statement was meant to be sarcastic ......
I have said over and over again that both games have faults.
Are we that dumb?
And who the hell told you guys that because the site is named "PESGaming" .....Fifa cannot be discussed here?
I realize you only joined the site a month ago.....I have been here since 2004 bro.
Fifa is and can be discussed here because it is PES only competition.
As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for Fifa ..........a lot of us would not have recognized that PES is lacking in many departments.
I like Fifa ..you like PES ...so what? :blush:
For the record ....I play both.
Biatch!
For a man who likes to shout 'epic fail' alot you sure do alot of epic failing yourself. Please go away and check in detail the technical aspects of both systems. Xbox360 is actually (proven in many side by side comparisons) slightly better at displaying anti-aliased graphics due to the chipset it uses for its GPUs, the PS3 has more base processing power (not by alot) so ignoring the hard drive situation and blu-ray they are pretty much identical systems, the PS3 edges it cause it has built HDs as standard (xbox is optional) and it uses blu-rays which means they can make games with vast amounts of data on disc like GT5 which wouldn't be possible on Xbox,
Your just being a dick now,
those two games play identically,
Yeah, REALLY, SO please, just TRY, and i mean TRY to dribble and try to attempt the same turns and feints from the Ps3 in the PS2 version!but gameplay engine wise that clip you posted looks almost identical to PS3 version,
actually watch how the game plays how it responds, they are the same game, the fact it can run on a PS2 shows how simplistic and old-gen the engine still is,
proper next gen games like GT4 for instance wont ever appear on PS2s or the Wii cause they cant run it, not graphically but in terms of processing power.
And you clearly havent played total war, its utterly constrained in reality, its a historical simulator,
the relative systems they apperr on is irrelavent,
point I was making was that you suggests football games are the hardest to make
And that motion capturing really helps me when the cursor doesn't change or my players pause when selecting them, or when the I through ball the ball from my own defence straight through the opposing team,
I could go on mate but I wont hammer the point. EA and Konami spend their money doing shit like motion capture and league licensing without bothering to overhaul and perfect the fundamental, the f-ing game engine.
No there are plent here and on other boards who can beat and outplay the top level AI with any level team with ease in just over a month of release cause the AI is retarded and scripted to shit.
No your stupid apparently for totally missing the point, we were saying you cant dribble or keep the ball without 'moving'
you said you could, were proved wrong then now say its impossible in real life? So when I see Drogba holding off a defender from behind and using his body strength and skill to move the ball around and draw a foul from or beat the second defender approaching him im imagining that am I?
Your just being childish now... stuff like that happens all the time in real football, its impossible in PES
Record it for me and show me or it didnt happen!
When and where did I say that ?
No you cant!!
You can stop them easily by playing the same retard crap as them, but if you play 'real football' vs an experienced exploiter online you will get torn a new asshole go play MLO and see what I mean.
Sup Klashman,
Your above statements tells me one thing.....you are probably not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
If the game simulates all that is listed above what more is needed?
Now I could go all out and embarrass your arse by listing all the ridiculous stuff you posted about Fifa and the contradictory crap you did about PES. But I won't. :blush:....i realize you have limited knowledge of both games.
But instead ...here is the truth.
EA's success with its' recent current releases of Fifa is not based on reviews from journalist in their hotel rooms (As you have read and obviously been brain washed) it is in fact a choice by fans. Some who were previously PES fans.
Fifa kicks PES ass up and down the field when compared point for point
Fifa is only repetitive to players who
1) Do not play the game (You have only played the Demo as stated)
2) Cannot play the game because of the recent added pressure system
You still think PES 2011 plays as it did with PES6, PES 2010 even well your a idiot3) Prefers and easier alternative which is "run fast and shoot rockets at goal" = PES
I have played PES to the fullest...look at the date i joined this site
PES was great once ...but not anymore
Robotic, 90 degree turns, ridiculously fast/skilled players, unrealistic rocket shooting from unbelievable angles and distances, dead/unresponsive defenders, cursor change bug, jog bug, unrealistic ball movement,
stupid AI, incredible new passing system that takes at least 30+games to adapt,
Now please go back and check to see how many of those problems affects Fifa. You will find just the opposite.
A football game should be judged on these 5 categories:
Tactics/Formation balance
Player Attributes/individuality
Animations
Human Physics/ ball physics
Game balance
FIFA 11 does one of these five well, 'Animations' in a video game sense (the game is silky smooth) but badly optimized in a football sense.
In terms of Human Physics/ball physics, Game balance, Player Attributes/individuality and Tactics/Formation balance it fails miserably in creating a sim!
it's also why i can't be bothered with plying online even though I'm pretty good at FIFA, i can't be bothered to play a ridiculous game where i play against endless cheesers who play with stupid 6-0-4 like they did in FIFA 10 and 09! You can beat them but there's no joy in beating them. Clubs is the only thing worth playing in FIFA!
In contrast PES 2011 gets 3 out of those 5 perfect but struggles in two departments.
The main problem with FIFA is the way the game is built. There's no factoring of player inertia at ALL. Realistic Foot planting is non existent which is a joke since FIFA 08 got this almost perfect! Players can all turn and move at lighting speed with Jedi like reactions, so to beat a man you HAVE to use the trick stick, it's not like real life where you unbalanced the defender. So it basically just gives you far too much unrealistic control, making the game to clinical, predictable and easy!
Also as per usual the game is completely devoid of proper individuality. PES 2011 laughs hysterically at FIFA with their pathetic gimmick called personality plus!
When you can stick Theo Walcott in goal and he'll make world class reaction saves just like Buffon.
Where you can Use Hleb as a center back and he's still make challenges as if he's Vermalaen!
The midfield means nothing!
Once again like in pretty much every fifa game the defense midfielders or center is completely useless. No just for you team, the CPU's DM's i rarely see them, ever! They are never an issue when they should in realty be a pest like they are in PES 2011 (Essien AGGGHHHH)
At all. It's again about how strong your strikers and defenders are. love how pro passing doesn't simulate how accurate each player can pass! instead bizarrely it just simulates how hard they can hit the pass! So play with a league 2 team and they can barley kick a ball, hilarious ain't it
Beating the AI is a breeze, all you do is set pressure high and that's it. I knew this when I beat Barcelona with Leverkusen on the demo (Legendary using full manual even).
Again, up front it's all about how strong your strikers are. There isn't difference between a top striker and a average striker. What makes Drogba so unstoppable is simple. You guessed it, strength because that's what the game is all about!
The AI is beyond terrible. Just like with FIFA 10. The only challenge in this game is the overpowered defenders who run up behind you when your in a one on one and barge you off the ball rugby style. Don't worry I'm good enough to get round this i just think when i easily do this to the CPU and they do it to me it's a complete joke that's all!
There's no tactical awareness at all, they are stupid as sin! it's still stupidly easy to create 1 on 1 opportunities because AI defenders do not work together. The full back seems to have a bad habit of constantly play your strikers onside.
Just say the game has gotten too hard and you prefer PES now ...
These guys Avelives and okrass seems to have the cheek to reply as soon as i leave the forum, just showing them that they are wrong that's all.
okrass i know hes a troll and he's desperate to try and prove that FIFA is realsitic which it clearly isn't!
I think it will smack him int he face how poor FIFA is when he actually puts Hleb, Messi etc.. or any other players in stupid positions and see's it has almost no effect in terms of their ability to defend!