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A real Arsenal style in PES 10

Sabatasso

Banned
i tried this guy's advice (http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=71955)

Defence: Reduce by 25%
Balance: Increase by 5%
Stamina: Increase by 10%
Top Speed: Reduce by 33%
Acceleration: Reduce by 17%
Agility: Reduce by 50%
Short pass speed: Reduce by 25%
Long pass speed: Reduce by 25%
Shot accuracy: Reduce by 10%
Heading: Increase by 10%
Technique: Increase by 5%
Aggression: Reduce by 35%
Teamwork: Increase by 25%

the keepers were a lot better this way, especially on 1 v 1's. decreasing shot accuracy definitely works

this is all fine and dandy, but overall it sucks.
I've been there and I've tried EVERYTHING when it comes to fixing PES AI to a satisfying result. The only thing I agree with here is a slight teamwork increase, the pace of the game is better to reduce with the gamespeed changer in the latest kitserver.

The result is much more "hiccup" free and it won't unbalance BAL mode and ML mode where the players evolve their abilities.
As for agility, when the overall game pace is reduced, a player with more than 90 agility is no longer a problem. Reducing Agility by 50% also reduce all players chance of succeeding with an overhead kick to less than 1%, where as a player with 90 agility has rather small chances of actually hitting the goal as it is.

The thoughts are nice, the idea is great but the excecution is all wrong.

ps. reducing abilities by percent is making gaps between the good and the bad players smaller, i.e. less individualism, and vice versa when you increase by percent.
Static numbers are way better to preserve the gap between the regular joe and the star.
 

bridport bee

Registered User
This is great, adjusted the sliders to 100 like the Boy7 said, and also adjusted the bottom slider (cant remember what its called) up to 100 so my team attacked down the middle, and im actually scoring some interesting goals now, and it feels like a real football team - players passing and moving... Great advice - thanks.
 

iamcanadianeh

Registered User
In hindsight these videos actually sum up what's wrong with PES 2010 IMO. Don't get me wrong, it's a good game, and will always have it's place in my PES/WE collection, but pass accuracy is way too high, defensive marking isn't good enough, especially on the wings, cross-crease passes too easy, shot accuracy too high, keepers not good enough... All of which is on display in these vids. The rpoblem though is that at the end of the day the opposition AI doesn't challenge you the same way you can take advantage of these flaws yourself. As easy as it is to score goals from pinging around passes for a one-timer, backpass, backheel across the crease, etc, it's amazing that the CPU never does any of these moves themselves!!!
 

zizou4ever

Registered User
Thanks, boy777777, great videos and great tips!

Could you post again your formation? On the first page, the picture of your formation has been changed...

EDIT: sorry, I found the picture of your formation. Thanks!
 

bunnywhi7e

Registered User
Sick videos boy777777, keep it ^^ mate. I sent you a private msg with some questions. I hope I get answer back.
 

bunnywhi7e

Registered User
want to add one thing: it is IMPOSSIBLE to play this way in ONLINE mode. Your players just don't respond well ONLINE as they do in OFFLINE mode, no matter how fast your Internet is. Just my 02. cents.
 

dudeski

Registered User
Arsenal goals look very similar. Everything is going down the right. Bit boring and predictable as a style of play that could be easily countered by a quality pro evo player.

Sorry.
 

iamcanadianeh

Registered User
Arsenal goals look very similar. Everything is going down the right. Bit boring and predictable as a style of play that could be easily countered by a quality pro evo player.

Sorry.

This is what I was saying, except IMO the problem is with the AI, because wing coverage is poor in general and these sorts of cut-backs and passes across the crease are too easy/effective. I don't think an opposing player could do much about it though because the lack of coverage is all down to CPU AI.
 

dudeski

Registered User
dudeski: i bet you couldn't even score 1 goal the way this dude has...let me see your videos ?

I don't have ANY videos, but I assure you, I would (if these videos are an indication of how he plays) beat this guy 9 times out of 10.

Style of play is one dimesnional, albeit nice to look at.

But yes, I have no videos....so you'll just have to believe me, or not :ninja:
 
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