An advice from a person who once was a PES addict
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StringerBell
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Maybe Konami should hand out some maxi pads in the next release. I swear all the people do here is bitch and complain like some sad support group. :innocent:
It's a joke - I don't support any of those teams! I support Vilal really but they don't have any big rivals so I tried to mislead people
Ali
It is happening again
Maybe Konami should bring out a decent game next year, then people wouldn't need to bitch and moan. :innocent:
Villa?
Bammers05
Registered User
Villarreal, I think. I can certainly think of one big rival that Villa have.
And you and I both know that, even if Konami brought out the perfect football game, there'd still be people, in here, moaning.
Amateur
Registered User
PES has a special place in my heart, I grew up playing it. Right now I only play FIFA however I believe people are playing the game in the wrong way. In general, FIFA sucks for any true football fan, however I have certain settings I play with and I'd like everyone who can to try them. Trust me guys, I'm one of you and I think I know what is it you want. To note; if you are looking for the excitement that PES offers of scoring 9 goals in a match (two teams combined) then you can ignore my thread
Playing FIFA 12:
1. Set your control settings on "Manual Settings". The game is absolutely beautiful if played on manual control against a civilized human being.
For offline mode:
2. Play with the sliders.
Player Sliders: Set "Forward Runs" to 65.
CPU Sliders: Set everything either 45 or 55 (Making the CPU weaker).
3. Play the CPU at "World Class" difficulty in normal matches, and at "Legendary" on cups and at the Champions.
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The idea behind manual control is that you are controlling everything, whatever is on your mind you can apply. I personally haven't played FIFA 12 on normal mode from the first day I bought it, cause assisted control just sucks. Give it a try, you won't lose anything. Good luck guys
Don't take this the wrong way as I'm just looking to contribute with what I consider constructive criticism, but for a person whose username is "Fully Manual" you do not seem to understand what "fully manual" actually is: yes, FIFA12 is more "manual" or "organic" than PES12, but FIFA12 does not offer anything that can be described as manual, FIFA12 is based around a 360 directional d-pad, FIFA12 is not true analog control, which means that with FIFA12 you can direct the left analog stick and the right analog stick in 360 directions, however, because FIFA12 is not manual, you do not have any range of movement within each direction, and therefore, every dribbling movement implemented into each specific direction is always an identical copy which looks "organic" but in actual fact is just the very same identical copy repeating itself over and over again, that's how the d-pad works, and that's how FIFA12 works, and thus FIFA12 should not be described as a "manual" video game.
Having said that: sure, you could argue that FIFA12 feels more "organic" than PES12, but that's all you can say about FIFA12, it feels manual, it looks manual, but at the end of the day, the fact is that FIFA12 is not manual nor does it offer anything that can be described as manual.
The bottom line is, as far as I'm concerned, that FIFA12 does not offer enough freedom to compensate for how repetitive the game is; yes, replacing an eight directional d-pad with a 360 directional d-pad is a perfection of the method, but it isn't something that I would describe as a reinvention. I'm not saying that PES12 is the better game, I'm just saying that both games feel outdated and very predictable at this point, because neither game has offered anything that can be described as a reinvention of the genre.
And lastly, being more subjective, I think the entire game with the exception of the dribbling animations, is smarter in PES12 than it is in FIFA12, when you are in a one on one situation in PES12 it somewhat feels closer to the real thing, but it is a big shame that the dribbling animations are so disappointing seeing how the animations in PES12 look like Konami is trying to copy FIFA instead of being original, that's the one massive fail of PES12, the technical aspect of the game is just very disappointing and doesn't do any justice to the off the ball movement; oh and the defensive controls are another massive fail, overly complicated to do the simplest of things.
StringerBell
Registered User
Its subjective. To me this game is decent. To those who dont think otherwise stop playing and do something else with your time.
Better than that ....Konami better pray to god that Jenky is around next year to patch the game again or else .....the whole entire 7 persons here who support the game will burst a vein in their heads trying to play this total shit for a game they put out year after year...
Who the fuck plays PES anymore anyways....?
Lets make this a Fifa forum instead because there is nothing but negative things to say about PES here most of the time and if anyone mentions Fifa (the best game ever) ...a few guys here shit their pants screaming for them to leave...:w00t
Poor PES....:crymore:
Can someone please call Jenky?
The trouble is OCKRASS is that IMO opinion FIFA is just as bad, if not worse in many areas. I had FIFA bought for me (my third time of trying to 'get it') over Christmas, and no matter what I do I cannot gleem the satisfaction that I am after.
I have tried everything from control sets, to sliders, to difficulty levels.
The main problems that are driving me insane with rage on FIFA is the following -
1) No aerial game - every team and every game pans out the same. The ball trajectory is too flat if you send an aerial ball from back to front to have any time to manoeuvre your strikers if you did want to play an aerial game. Therefore you are stuck with Barce like teams all the time.
2) Repetition of everything
3) 45/90 minute goals. There has been countless messages on the FIFA forum about this, if you want to argue against it feel free, but IMO this is a true gamebreaker. Only yesterday for example I was winning in two consecutive games where the opposition scored in the 90th minute twice to equalise. Over a period of say fifty games, and this is no shit, I would say almost a third of ALL goals are scored at these times. THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS. CPU controlled team mates go on jollies, penalties are given for off the ball stuff which I didn't do, you name it it goes on around these times.
4) The 'no pulse' factor. Just quite simply, the games feel dead.
KONAMI could obviously take a leaf out of EA's book in terms of animations, player injuries, collisions, keepers (although this is subjective as to how the scripting is). But at the moment I'm feeling more rage toward a FIFA game that just doesn't feel right, than KONAMI's effort. Could I play Pro Evo without it being patched?!? Probably not, so therein lies the problem. A soulless product from EA, or a smash of a million KONAMI patches thrown together for Pro Evo?
For sheer fun, and I need to keep reminding myself about this is why I put the console or the PC on to begin with, Pro Evo is just about winning, but a highly modded effort is needed with increased ball weight and shot power to compensate.
Ali
It is happening again
That's what I have been doing.
Every time I try to get back into the game, it pushes me away.
All honesty...I scream at Fifa too.....but I just like coming here a throw the word Fifa around and watch ppl go crazy.
You have the right to not like Fifa ...anyone does. So its not your cup of tea ..meh. Means nothing.
You have fair knowledge about both games ...and I do agree with most points you make ...but i cant go around saying that if i want to annoy the hell out ppl when i mention FIFA ...:w00t
peace
Sabatasso
Banned
Notice that he has typed "Tottenham Hotspurs", and I guess a real fan would know how to spell it