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Anybody else encountering weird stat drops?

The Eristic

Registered User
There is some wackiness that is occurring from time to time with my game (playing on PS3, default OF). Players randomly lose their stats when they really shouldn't, and/or the game displays a dramatically lower Overall Rating than the actual stats reflect.

Example of the first (it's happened to other players in the past, too, but these are the fastest I've seen):

I've been watching a pair of young defenders, one 20 (Ponce), the other 21 (Bodnar), and when I added them to my Scout List in October, they had ORs of 81 and 76, respectively. The day after the January window closed (during which I had been bidding for them and continually turned down by their clubs), they both lost stats across the board and dropped an OR point, and three months on, they're down to 78 and 73. Ponce had Speed and Acc that had improved to 88 in January; both fell to 84 Feb 1st, and are now at 81! It's not like they're players who are riding the bench, either. They've each played 13 games since the window closed.

Regarding the second issue:

When the first report came in on Sturridge, his OR of 72 fell to 52, though his actual stats didn't change, and when I bought Gakpe, same deal. His OR dropped from 74 to 54. Both ORs show up correctly (and update accordingly with stat improvement) in lineup selection, but everywhere else, they're still 20 points off.

The latter practically has to be a technical issue, but the former? Could it be an actual and (what would be yet another unsurprisingly) inexplicable component of the game mechanic, or is it a mere glitch as well?
 

Top Player

Registered User
I don't know, but something like that happened to me too, twice to be more exactly... I bought a 21 year old WB and another 19 year old CB whose stats started to drop without reason, as far as I know... :(
Maybe it's a glitch as you said... I don't know...
 

minou3

Registered User
I thought their stats where dropping only to get higher afterwards... wasn't really that way...
 

0zz

Registered User
I have a guy in my team with overall rating of 53, but his every single stat is around 75...how to explain that? I bought him from ML Youth.
 

The Eristic

Registered User
I thought their stats where dropping only to get higher afterwards... wasn't really that way...

Yeah, some players have dips in their growth curve, but they'll usually lose at most 2 points a year. These guys are losing whole chunks of their stats overnight.

0zz, that's exactly what is going on with Sturridge and Gakpe for me. Really annoying, though it doesn't appear to affect the gameplay like the other issue.
 

horo2

Registered User
hem...i just posted same problem on the other thread, i did'nt read this thread before..

forgive me :(

okay i have same exactly problem with bro Eristic, and i just browsing over in other forums, and i find some answer that problem is just happen in 1-2 season, and will be up again in the next season...
but i don't sure with that answer..

so let's find the answer together..and report it here ASAP

sorry for my bad english b4
;)
 

LG 360 bayb

Registered User
C. Ronaldo, now 31 in my ML his stats have dropped horrifically. His speed and acceleration are 2 in particular that have dramatically dropped, from high 90s to low 80s. Still an overall of 91 but compared to the likes of Aguero, Benzema, Pato, Rooney, Gourcuff and even Cattermole he's quite average. I think it's because for some reason Real never played him, not even at his highest rating of 98.
 

The Eristic

Registered User
Hulk's OR at 27 years old just fell from 89 to 72! No actual stat change, once again, though the update did switch his primary position from CF to WF.
 

IMOCAN

Registered User
the same thing happened to me..bought t.muller from bayern..his stats drop every single match..but that doesnt effect his overall rating..does anybody know how to counter this prob?
 

mclkai

Registered User
Yeah...
I got Adriano( yup... THAT brazilian CF), at age of 22. At first, he was 80, then he got 81( after he learned some skill), and now he is 79... Everything after three quarters of season :(

Did you guys somewhat fixed that problem? I mean, maybe after season or two they will be able to grow... Im asking, because I don't know what do with him: leave him as he is, or sell at first better oppurtinity. OR maybe a loan transfer will fix it?
 

mclkai

Registered User
Damn... Now im in deep... hole :|

I bought Okubo in the middle of past season. He developed very well, he even got some "max" in experience earned. But, once he turned 22 in the present season( right at the end of opening of season transfer period, at first league match) he just seems to not gain XP at all ! Another fail at age of 22 ? I think maybe( just maybe :/) that's because of growth type, because both adriano and okubo got "standard" type of growth... I got rid of Adriano, because I don't liked him at all, but in Okubo I had some hopes of another great player in my team...

Damnit, everything went fine until last 1.5 season :/
 

The Eristic

Registered User
Another fail at age of 22 ? I think maybe( just maybe :/) that's because of growth type, because both adriano and okubo got "standard" type of growth...

"Standard" growth curve should peak at ~26 years of age. Maybe his is one of the rare types with an early plateau followed by a higher final peak, or perhaps a double peak, where his stats will drop, then go up again.

The guys I mentioned in my original post, Ponce and Bodnar, are now at 57 and 50, and they're only in their mid-20's.
 

mclkai

Registered User
So... we should wait? I'm still scouting mine adriano, and keeping eye on Okubo. Damn, I hope this will fix itself, at least before release of PES 2011 :) So, I will keep playing...

One more thing I got in mind... I will change their growth type in Edit mode... Then I tell you what happen

BTW Sorry for my poor english, i hope you can understand me :)
 

Biffco

Registered User
I signed Okubo while he was young and stats rising, his stats stalled for a season or so and then they just drop like mad. I ended up releasing him and he stayed on the free transfer list for god knows how many seasons then he must have retired cos he turned up in my youth team. I didn't touch him again.

I've had a couple of players like this, I think the curve is one of the early peak curves. I'm sure there is an early peak followed by a decline and another which is an early peak but long lasting.
 

mclkai

Registered User
But Okubo got standard growth i checked it in edit mode. I also changed his growth and it remained the same. Damn... Stupid glitches :/
 

The Eristic

Registered User
But Okubo got standard growth i checked it in edit mode. I also changed his growth and it remained the same. Damn... Stupid glitches :/

Growth curve won't officially change until you start another ML (the type is locked in when you start, just like stats), though reborn players often come back with higher curves than they had before retirement.
 
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