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Automatic upper body feint?

Stoyaninho

Registered User
Hmm, it's very bad..When you going slow with a player and a defender come close to you, your player begins to do this shoulder feint (left-right fake shoulder moves) automaticaly?! Is there any way to NOT do that, and do it only manualy when you want it with the right stick (xbox 360) ? :mellow:
 

gunnerglow

Registered User
IMO - this a sign of massive momentum on your team, punish your opponent. Then look at the match ratings after - dude who auto fakes is on a 7.0 at least i bet.
 

Griciu

Registered User
You know what I hate most -- whenever you're using the right stick to set a teammate on the run, the fact that you're moving the right stick makes your current player to do some kind of dribble (which is set by default, and cannot be removed in Edit User -> Link Feints!) ...this way, most of the time, i can't pass the ball right away. I have to wait until he finishes that stupid trick that takes 2-3 seconds, and most of the time the player I set on the run is already in an offside position, or I lose the ball while he does this stupid trick.

Anyone else experienced this issue?
 

g221911g

Registered User
You know what I hate most -- whenever you're using the right stick to set a teammate on the run, the fact that you're moving the right stick makes your current player to do some kind of dribble (which is set by default, and cannot be removed in Edit User -> Link Feints!) ...this way, most of the time, i can't pass the ball right away. I have to wait until he finishes that stupid trick that takes 2-3 seconds, and most of the time the player I set on the run is already in an offside position, or I lose the ball while he does this stupid trick.

Anyone else experienced this issue?

I used to experience it frequently.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
You know what I hate most -- whenever you're using the right stick to set a teammate on the run, the fact that you're moving the right stick makes your current player to do some kind of dribble (which is set by default, and cannot be removed in Edit User -> Link Feints!) ...this way, most of the time, i can't pass the ball right away. I have to wait until he finishes that stupid trick that takes 2-3 seconds, and most of the time the player I set on the run is already in an offside position, or I lose the ball while he does this stupid trick.

Anyone else experienced this issue?

I see your point, but passing to a player you just sent on a run is a bit obvious don't you think?

Try sending a player or two on the run, pass to another player and then to one of the two you sent running. Just a tip that works almost too well, especially against human opponents.
 

abu97

Registered User
You know what I hate most -- whenever you're using the right stick to set a teammate on the run, the fact that you're moving the right stick makes your current player to do some kind of dribble (which is set by default, and cannot be removed in Edit User -> Link Feints!) ...this way, most of the time, i can't pass the ball right away. I have to wait until he finishes that stupid trick that takes 2-3 seconds, and most of the time the player I set on the run is already in an offside position, or I lose the ball while he does this stupid trick.

Anyone else experienced this issue?
True- it happens all the time and ruins my counter attack. And whats worse is that when you use your right analog stick to control another player and they do a stupid feint, you pass it full power and they roll it 2 metres away from the. Whoever programmed PES is an amateur with its ludicrous passing and its even worse shooting. Hopefully PES 2013's new engine will atleast work in a sensible way
 

Griciu

Registered User
I see your point, but passing to a player you just sent on a run is a bit obvious don't you think?

Try sending a player or two on the run, pass to another player and then to one of the two you sent running. Just a tip that works almost too well, especially against human opponents.

Usually, I only set on the run my attackers - that are being marked by his deepest defenders; which means... if I set him on the run, he's just one step away from going offside: he turns around, and starts running. It takes about a second for him to turn around and start running and I must complete the pass by the time he starts running. So at the time I pass the through ball, he is facing the goal while the defender marking him is still facing me. Works perfect, as it takes a while for the defender to turn around 90* and catch up with my attacker who is already in a 1x1 position - therefore, in this instance, seconds matter.

And about the 2nd trick :) damn I thought I was the only using it haha. It's genius. See because if you set a player on the run and you pass him the ball, the defender marking him is ready (by default) to interact. Now if after you've set that player on the run, you pass the ball to a different player and then do a 1-touch through ball, your opponent is basically defenseless, his defenders are having a hard time getting to that ball as it's coming from a different angle than they anticipated. Damn this triangle is genius :)

@abu I agree. I just don't get it why would they do this. We have plenty of feints we can choose from, why implement these default ones that can't be deactivated? In order to avoid these, you would have to be quite super fast in pointing the right sticker to the desired player and pushing it. I often need more time while pointing it because i want to do it right; eventually if you miss and set a wrong player on the run, you cannot set another until your first player's finished his run. Another stupid thing if u ask me
 

abu97

Registered User
And here's a video I recorded today with this exact trick. It's awesome,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlUzMeveP0
I done it the other day the exact same. It was a fluke though as I was meant to pass to the player that was on the run but accidentally passed it to someone else and without realising I presses pass again leading to the player who was on the run to have a one on one.

This is also useful when you are dribbling into the box and if there is 1 defender, you can select a player to run so the defender will leave you and track him down so you have space to dribble. This is quite hard as sometimes the defender can track both or leave 1 when he is offside
 

Stoyaninho

Registered User
Let's stay on topic please :rolleyes: On your problem if you dont use quick feints with the right stick (they can be deleted on xbox) it's more likely your player will not do any feints when control the others.

So on my topic:

IMO - this a sign of massive momentum on your team, punish your opponent. Then look at the match ratings after - dude who auto fakes is on a 7.0 at least i bet.

I think that everybody in my team do these auto fakes, when a defender get close to him? In other words i can't see somebody, who dont do that, so i dont think it depends on the form or momentum.
 

Pokervriend

Registered User
And here's a video I recorded today with this exact trick. It's awesome,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlUzMeveP0

I think this is a trick most expierenced players use to be honest. It works great an the vid makes a good example of it, but I doubt it suprises many expierenced players. What does annoy me is what you described before: the R3 button to sent a player forward sometimes makes my player do a trickcombo out of the blue. After he's finished showing off the player who made the run is offside. :angry:
 
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