Best PES?
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Jake Small
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Multiplayer is indeed the most important part, and IMO this is the biggest area where PES4 failed. There was a huge divide in PES4 between folks who liked to tinker with formations, play longballs and attempt to play smoothly and realistically, and then people who played very cynical football, jerking back and forth a few times, short passing back and forth, NEVER using the radar, rarely giving a crap about formations, until they were inside the box, pass one more time and score (because defenders were pretty useless in PES4). This was frustrating to me and reminds me of old fighting games where one guy would try to play with style, and the other would just do one cheap move over and over and end up winning.
PES5 comes along and suddenly formations matter, defensive positioning matters, playing longballs can be used to great effect, etc, the list is honestly huge. Massive improvement and suddenly now my friends have all developed their own styles: some like to play hard and fast with longballs and high counterattacks, some play very fast but very little longballing and more short passing / dribble (brazil!), some play defensive, some spend serious time building up plays... and the most important thing of all is that all of these styles can be effective! To me, this is such a huge improvement over PES4 (where the only 'style' of play was cut back, cut back, cut back, pass/pass/ cutback pass shoot).... that it's almost hard to express how much better I feel PES5 is.
For all the frustrations with PES5, i can think of wayyy more in PES4 that pissed me off to no end. I spend an hour plying about with my formation only to have a guy basically toss high through-balls to some super-high-stats striker and 80% of the time my defender stumbles for about 2 seconds and lets him through for a 1-1... awesome..
PES4 reminds me of NBA Jam..
PES5 comes along and suddenly formations matter, defensive positioning matters, playing longballs can be used to great effect, etc, the list is honestly huge. Massive improvement and suddenly now my friends have all developed their own styles: some like to play hard and fast with longballs and high counterattacks, some play very fast but very little longballing and more short passing / dribble (brazil!), some play defensive, some spend serious time building up plays... and the most important thing of all is that all of these styles can be effective! To me, this is such a huge improvement over PES4 (where the only 'style' of play was cut back, cut back, cut back, pass/pass/ cutback pass shoot).... that it's almost hard to express how much better I feel PES5 is.
For all the frustrations with PES5, i can think of wayyy more in PES4 that pissed me off to no end. I spend an hour plying about with my formation only to have a guy basically toss high through-balls to some super-high-stats striker and 80% of the time my defender stumbles for about 2 seconds and lets him through for a 1-1... awesome..
PES4 reminds me of NBA Jam..
Abaddon
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g33k said:
After playin against AI for so long it does get easy. Playing my mates who have been playing since the dawn of PES, who know every trick, and have mastered them perfectly, one of them even won a tournamet against 300 people, and i've been playing since PES3, to run rings round them and take the piss after 4 weeks of playing was great, the matches were so competative, playing for money even, it was too good, PES 5 spoiled it, with the momorial match thing, I don't want to know whos best out of me and my mates, i'd rather argue about it then play and allnight KONAMI cup and get pissed, score some great goals and have some fun!
I would seriously get more fun out of playing FIFA 98 on the N64 with my mates!
Jake Small
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Once you learn it, PES5 multiplayer is lightyears beyond PES4.
Have some patience with it, though. The stuff you can throw together as plays can be pretty spectacular.
Have some patience with it, though. The stuff you can throw together as plays can be pretty spectacular.
Badgerman
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The Pro Evo series on the PS2 has been like a train.
Choo choo along in straight lines in PES1, PES2 loosened the genral play up a bit, PES3 added a few tricks and nice subtle animations (and licenses?) and PES4 and 5 kept up the general trend.
The PS3 should hopefully bring with it as much, if not the same, amount of improvement than the PS2 was to the PS1. But woe, I fear this may not be the case.
Choo choo along in straight lines in PES1, PES2 loosened the genral play up a bit, PES3 added a few tricks and nice subtle animations (and licenses?) and PES4 and 5 kept up the general trend.
The PS3 should hopefully bring with it as much, if not the same, amount of improvement than the PS2 was to the PS1. But woe, I fear this may not be the case.
accessgranted
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Probably PES5 but there's still a number of flaws that detract from the game.
Such as the offside rules, advantage played, certain bookings against you and not the AI, stoppage time, etcs.
It still has a way to go towards being the ultimate football game.
Such as the offside rules, advantage played, certain bookings against you and not the AI, stoppage time, etcs.
It still has a way to go towards being the ultimate football game.
Without a doubt in my mind, Winning Eleven 6: Final evolution provided the pinnacle of arcade football.
The introduction of the R2 and L1 dribbling provided room for the player to change styles freely, and play a realistic game only when he/she chooses to.
since WE7, it became apparent that Konami is trying to force the player into thinking out of the Video Game console and into the Football pitch. The series separated itself from the arcade approach by introducing ball physics and football players' physical limitations, which made moves harder to execute, and incoming chalenges harder to anticipate, thus eliminating the casual fan base of the game, and grabbing the hardcore fans even more than before.
Play PES 5 as if you are playing real professional football. Warm up and clear your mind *puff puff*.
The introduction of the R2 and L1 dribbling provided room for the player to change styles freely, and play a realistic game only when he/she chooses to.
since WE7, it became apparent that Konami is trying to force the player into thinking out of the Video Game console and into the Football pitch. The series separated itself from the arcade approach by introducing ball physics and football players' physical limitations, which made moves harder to execute, and incoming chalenges harder to anticipate, thus eliminating the casual fan base of the game, and grabbing the hardcore fans even more than before.
Play PES 5 as if you are playing real professional football. Warm up and clear your mind *puff puff*.
Pro evo 5 defo the best in the series seeing people saying pro evo 4 due to it being fun but pro 5 just makes it that much more challenging and as a addicted gamer who loves games i really do love pro 5 for the fact you have to kepp learning and be sharp even after playing it for so long the computer can throw something at you what you haven't seen before and you have to change your game pure realism thats what we all wanted, and now were nearly there