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djbigmore

Registered User
Great post mate, like Scouse says its good to have analysis for more diverse players than those that are normally posted. How about working on some of the smaller teams in the Premiership or German players?
Got to say as well that I'm especially impressed with the Dida post, you've gotta be one of the first people I've noticed doing such a detailed post on a keeper. Great to see!
Keep up the good work.
 

bitz

Registered User
I have a few more more things to say about Dida i'll post soon.
Djbigmore - About the German league or EPL players you mentioned, unfortunately I can' t do.
bagrunnel - Go ahead my friend reply here:cool:
 

Cali

Sin City
Loving the thread at the mo, Love Greece, went there a couple of years ago and got a bit addicted to the sun and footie (Im addicted to footie already, so that comment doesn't make much sence), got burnt badly and started supporting Panathinaikos, ah, the good ol' days! :happy:.

Oops, i fear that i wen't on a bit too much there, this isn't the "Cali's 2 week adventure around Greece" thread, it won't happen again ;).





P.S Im going back to Greece next year!!!!
 

bitz

Registered User
California Clown said:
Loving the thread at the mo, Love Greece, went there a couple of years ago and got a bit addicted to the sun and footie (Im addicted to footie already, so that comment doesn't make much sence), got burnt badly and started supporting Panathinaikos, ah, the good ol' days! :happy:.

Oops, i fear that i wen't on a bit too much there, this isn't the "Cali's 2 week adventure around Greece" thread, it won't happen again ;).





P.S Im going back to Greece next year!!!!


:D Currently thinking to open a new thread entitled: "Been in Greece?Tell us your experience":tongue: just kidding.Oh, by the way, next time you come, you are obliged to support Olympiakos:tongue:
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Right I think what I will do is talk about each of those two stats individually and then how we can implement them into Rivaldo.

Firstly technique. When trying to recreate any technically gifted player this is probably one of the most important stats to get right, and it has several effects ingame. To start off, as I am sure you already know it is an indicator of a players first touch. It has two main implications on the first touch; 1) the actual STANDARD of the first touch, whether they can keep the ball close, trap it accurately, turn with the first touch. 2) It also has effects on the NUMBER of touches a player needs to get the ball under control. So you are going to find with a player with a rating of say 63, that not only is his first touch poor, but you will often see him take two or maybe three touches to get the ball fully under control, and only THEN can he move on. In comparison a player with a value of 93 is going to be able to take a stunning first touch where the ball is instantly under control and he can progress with play.

So first touch is the most obvious thing effected by technique. The next thing it has an effect on is tricks and skills, e.g. stepovers, feints. First thing of relevance is that it improves the ACCURACY of tricks. So if a player with a rating of 64 for technique trys to do a stepover, you might find he treads on the ball, leaves it behind, and generally finds it much harder to achieve an accurate trick. (Most obvious thing which you have probably noticed is when a player trys to do the piroette thing and leaves the ball behind. Thats a player with a low technique rating.) Not only does it affect the accuracy of the trick, but it effects the speed with which the trick is performed at. So a player with a technique of 94 is not only going to be able to perform extremely accurate tricks but they will be performed at a much greater speed. The stepovers will be quicker and more confusing, body feints will be almost instant. These are the two implications that technique has on tricks.

There are two more things which technique effects. Firstly lets talk about direct passes. If a player has a low technique rating, say 63, you will find that if he attempts to play a pass first time, with no touch, then the pass will be much less accurate and probably slower as well. In short, the technique rating effects the quality of an attempted first time pass. Players with a higher rating will able to perform first time passes with much greater accuracy and speed than a player with a low accuracy.

The final thing I want to discuss about technique is the effect it has on a players chip shots. Firstly it effects the ability of the player to make the ball dip during a chip shot. If a player has a low technique value he is going to find it much harder to get the ball to fall after getting it up in the air. Players with high technique ratings will need less space to get the ball to dip, and henceforth improve the quality of their chip shots. Lastly it has a general impact on the accuracy of chip shots. So you will find that people with higher technique will able to produce more accurate chip shots. and the quality will generally be better.

I will talk about shot technique later as I want you to be able to digest this properly and make sure you understand it. Plus Im very tired!:laugh:
 

bitz

Registered User
Thanks a lot mate. You were very clear. Nice of you to help!I was thinking of reducing Rivaldo's original 95 technique but after your post i realised 95 really represents him! If you could see a goal that he had scored from the ride side you would understand what i mean. He attempted a long ball from the right by hitting the ball with the left foot crossed behind the right, an opponent intercepted with a header but rivaldo followed the ball's course, - goalkeeper rushing out- and before the ball touched the ground, he gently hit the ball, the ball gained height, over the keeper and then droped and and landed in the box! Of course i'm not judging his technique just by a very difficult goal or a lucky shot! Rivaldo does such things quite often. Well bags, thanks again but i'm waiting for a shot technique explanation. After you take some time to rest of course!:tongue:
 

bitz

Registered User
bitz said:
...He attempted a long ball from the right by hitting the ball with the left foot crossed behind the right...

The move I was trying to explain is called "rabona":tongue:Rivaldo can do a rabona
 

bitz

Registered User
Check page 1 I've updated Dida's thread plus added his analysis. I suggest you read the analysis, there's a point that can be of discussion.

Also, coming up next, Predrag Djorjevic.
 

bitz

Registered User
Predrag Djorjevic will be up shortly but without analysis. I don't have the time to spare theses days and i'll on vacation this weekend so good luck to everyone. I will login now and then just to check bags thread and probably any of your comments on my work.CU;)
 

bitz

Registered User
Yes i m sure. He has 99 for response but a low consistency so his 99 is not really a 99 because he will sometimes be reluctant whe rushing out. His reflexes are of the best a goalkeeper has in real life.
 

ATH10

Registered User
i havent seen much of olympiakos and panathinaikos but what i saw of olympiakos against liverpool in the champs league i thought seemed like a good team
 

bitz

Registered User
Well hellooooooo to everone! I'm back from holidays!:tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Rested and refreshed! I think i owe Predrag Djorjevic yet, so I'll browse my hard disk and post him today!Cheers!
 

bitz

Registered User
20/8/06 - Predrag Djordjevic

Predrag Djordjevic - Serbia Montenegro & Olympiacos OCFP



Basic Settings: Age - 33
Preferred foot - Left
Style of Dribble - 3
Freekick style - 2
Penalty - 1
Drop kick style - 1
Growth type - Late peak

Position:WB,*SM,AM



Physique: Height - 184cm
Weight - 75kg

Neck length 0
Neck width 0
Shoulder height -1
Shoulder width 0
Chest measurement +1
Waist circumference 0
Arm circumference -1
Leg circumference -1
Calf circumference 0
Leg length +2

Accessories:
Seasonal sleeves
Shocks 3

Attack - 81
Defence - 49
Balance - 78
Stamina - 84
Top speed - 78
Acceleration - 75
Response - 73
Agility - 76
Dribble accuracy - 87
Dribble speed - 76
Short pass accuracy - 82
Short pass speed - 70
Long pass accuracy - 87
Long pass speed - 86
Shot accuracy - 76
Shot power - 86
Shot technique - 76
Free kick accuracy - 84
Curling - 86
Header - 73
Jump - 70
Technique - 88
Aggression - 73
Mentality - 75
Goal keeping skills - 50
Team work - 76
Consistency - 5
Condition - 6
Weak foot accuracy - 3
Weak foot frequency - 5

Special abilities: 1-1 scoring,Post player,Middle shooting,Side,Penalties,Outside
 

bitz

Registered User
*IMPORTANT UPDATE*

I've updated all the players done so far, some minor tweaks and improvements. So check everything again if you want.
Also added pictures of the players for season 06-07.:D
 

given★heaven

Registered User
thanks bitz!! i was waiting for you.
i've updated their stats now.

in uefa.com, i knew salpingidis. panathinaikos paid money(greek record!) and some players to paok for him. i found him in we10's greece squad, but his stats like an average player. can you update him stats?
 

tingdaman

Registered User
good job, bitz. ever thought of editing the first post by putting up all the players' stats and analysis in links, like bagrunnel's thread? it would be very handy, and save people asking which page each player is in. Nice to see a new person having a go at editing in detail!
 

bitz

Registered User
21/8/06 - Salpingidis

Really happy to hear you people make comments and suggestions! I had myself updated Salpingidis but hadn't thought of posting him. He is a bit underrated in PES5, and I admit that Panathinaikos was right to grab the chance and get him because he really deserves the money! Although I am a big Olympiacos supporter I think that Salpingidis is a very good prospect. He joined Panathinaikos the very last moment of the pre season just before the opening match, selected for the first lineup and scored a hat trick for his team versus Aigaleo (4-1)! So here is my improved Salpingidis:


Dimitrios SALPINGIDIS - Greece & Panathinaikos FC

Basic Settings: Age - 25
Preferred foot/Side - Right/Right side
Style of Dribble - 1
Freekick style - 1
Penalty - 1
Drop kick style - 1
Growth type - Standard

Position:CF*



Physique: Height - 172cm
Weight - 77kg

Neck length -1
Neck width +2
Shoulder height -1
Shoulder width 0
Chest measurement +2
Waist circumference 0
Arm circumference -1
Leg circumference 0
Calf circumference 0
Leg length 0

Accessories:
Seasonal sleeves


Attack - 80
Defence - 51
Balance - 77
Stamina - 81
Top speed - 77
Acceleration - 79
Response - 77
Agility - 82
Dribble accuracy - 81
Dribble speed - 77
Short pass accuracy - 74
Short pass speed - 72
Long pass accuracy - 75
Long pass speed - 73
Shot accuracy - 75
Shot power - 80
Shot technique - 79
Free kick accuracy - 67
Curling - 73
Header - 67
Jump - 74
Technique - 80
Aggression - 83
Mentality - 77
Goal keeping skills - 50
Team work - 72
Consistency - 6
Condition - 6
Weak foot accuracy - 4
Weak foot frequency - 4

Special abilities: Lines,Sliding tackle

*I have not yet found a proper picture of Salpingidis in Panathinaikos colours but I will add as soon as I find.
 

ATH10

Registered User
i havent seen salpingidis play but are you sure he should have the sliding star it just seems weird a striker having it
 
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