Complete player editing

[Matio]

Please can you do some Goalkeepers in your thread because i've noticed that you have not done any.

yep i noticed that aswell but it cud b becoz gk are hard to do as they cud have a good game and do one dodgy mistake and get remembered for that mistake therefore people think there dodgy so the stats will be hard to do

 

[bagrunnell]

Ricardo Kaka

Face: Skin colour 1
Head height -2
Head width -3
Type 9
Colour 1 - 2
Colour 2 - Black 2

Hairstyle: Type - Special 75
Colour - 9
Facial hair: Type - 76
Colour - 5

Boots: Adidas Predator Absolute TRX - Gold/Black

Physique: Height 186cm
Weight 73kg
Neck length 0
Neck width +2
Shoulder height +1
Shoulder width -2
Chest measurement 0
Waist circumference +1
Arm circumference -2
Leg circumference +1
Calf circumference 0
Leg length +1

Accesories: Tucked in shirt
Seasonal sleeves

Right, here we have one of the best if not THE best pure attacking midfielder in the world. (In my opinion of course!) A huge asset to both the Brazilian squad, although he admittedly had a poor World Cup, and he makes a terrific midfield at AC Milan, into one of the best midfields at the moment. With Gattuso sweeping up the bits and pieces and Pirlo distributing the ball from his deep position, Kaka has a lot of freedom in his attacking areas (I havent even mentioned the great job Seedorf does connecting the flow). With this freedom, he demonstrates his fantastic abilities such as pace and technique, vision and passing.

Now on default settings, Konami had done a decent job on Kaka but there were small tweaks needed all over the board really, and in some cases, bigger ones. I wont go into quite as much detail as I did with some of the poorer done players such as Juninho, but there are stil a couple of points I will make.

Pace and acceleration - Kaka's first great asset is that he has and acceleration. When you take into account those long strides that he takes, it makes his acceleration even more remarkable. Values of 89 for top speed and acceleration are just right, and we now have the right balance between these two stats to make it seem like Kaka. A very fast dribble speed aswell, 88 is spot on for that aswell.

Passing - In addition to the terrific technical abilities he possess's, he also aids his club and national team by creating play aswell, with great passes and vision. It's all about getting the balance right with relevant stats. So I feel now that his passing stats, team work, and special stars are balanced just right so we get realistic passing behaviour from Kaka. I wont quote all the passing abilites, but the inclusion of the passing star and a team work value of 84 mean we get the right effect ingame when balanced with his basic passing stats.

Brazilian technique - Yet again, here we have a Brazilian player, and so yet again here I am saying how good his technique is!:laugh: So technique value of 91, dribble accuracy of 88, and weak foot accuracy of 6, show fantastic general technique, and portray his technical abilites very well in the game.


Thats all I really have to say about him. To sum him up, I would say he is a very well rounded player. Great strength, pace, stamina, passing, shooting (fantastic one on one finisher), and great mentality. He not only has the natural ability, but he also has the right ATTITUDE, which a lot of young players miss now-a-days.

 

[pes_godfather]

mmm i think he should be a bit better than that !!!!!!
dont u agree

 

[bagrunnell]

I dont agree other wise I would have posted it differently. Disregarding his defence and goal keeping skills, he has TWO values under 80. That speaks for itself really, and there are not many players that can boast not only such a well rounded game, but one of such a high standard! Then when you consider that many of those values are high 80's and mid 80's, I cant really understand how you can say he is underrated:laugh:

 

[Les Gones]

Wow, very nice Kaka, i think he's now as he is in real life, great job Bags !!
I know that you have a lot of requests but could you pls do Okocha - Marcelinho comparison, I would really appreciate it !!
Thanx !

Les Gones !!!!

 

[Lorenzinho]

Lorenzinho - Thats fair enough then, I obviously misunderstood what you were implying. I just didn't feel your post had any constructive contribution, and I felt you were trying to but some people down. But you have explained that you did not have that intention, and so I apologize for that. On many forums I have seen people who are 'veterans', like yourself, try to use their weight to intimidate people, I just wanted to make sure this wasnt the case in this instance. You have cleared up what you meant, and like I said I have obviously misinterpreted your point.

Having looked back at my initial reply too, I must also apologize for not using a certain modicum of politeness. As I recently said, life is hard at the moment, and I tend to be 'losing my rag' more often. So again, sorry for replying in a somewhat rude and aggresive nature.

Finally, I would like to thank you for your complement of my work here.

Fair play mate. Sorry for that then.

I've yet to try out your Kaka yet, but your Adriano seems perfect. I had higher stats for Adriano before sticking yours in yet he seems to play much better this way, can you explain why?

 

[bagrunnell]

I am glad we didnt escalate in a full blown shoot out Lorenzinho! I have seen that happen so many times, and it really isnt necesary. We are all adults and it is pointless being petty about things. There is no need to apologize whatsoever my friend.

Regardin Adriano, I understand what you mean. One thing I always try to stress to people is that almost as important as achieving the correct value for each individual attribute, is achieving the correct BALANCE between the stats. Balance between the normal and special attributes is also essential, and so while you may have a higher vale without a special star, a lower one WITH a special star may produce much more realistic behaviour for a player. Some stats have an effect on many other's like stamina. It is essential we get values like this correct, as if we dont it can really upset the balance between stats. So while you may have had certain values higher for Adriano, you may have had another value a bit wrong, which would consequently cause him to play unrealistically. Balance is key.

 

[Lorenzinho]

I am glad we didnt escalate in a full blown shoot out Lorenzinho! I have seen that happen so many times, and it really isnt necesary. We are all adults and it is pointless being petty about things. There is no need to apologize whatsoever my friend.

Regardin Adriano, I understand what you mean. One thing I always try to stress to people is that almost as important as achieving the correct value for each individual attribute, is achieving the correct BALANCE between the stats. Balance between the normal and special attributes is also essential, and so while you may have a higher vale without a special star, a lower one WITH a special star may produce much more realistic behaviour for a player. Some stats have an effect on many other's like stamina. It is essential we get values like this correct, as if we dont it can really upset the balance between stats. So while you may have had certain values higher for Adriano, you may have had another value a bit wrong, which would consequently cause him to play unrealistically. Balance is key.

I noticed you said something about a guide describing the abilities in a bit more detail. Can you elaborate?

 

[bagrunnell]

Certainly. I was refering to the piggyback offical guide for PES5. It has definitions of each stat, and lets you know some facts about each that you probably didnt know. It also provides information of mistranslations, so some of the stats are not what they seem.

Having said that though, it really is a basic explanation to the mechanics of each stat. It is going to inform you of what each stat does in the simplest form,a dn even then it makes some mistakes. It is still very useful if you are seriously considering editing stats. For example while it does give you an explanation about both the attack and defence values, it covers just one of the issues that each stat is relevant to. We could talk for hours about effects of these two values, their 'ratio', things which you cant really read about, but have to have principles of, which can then be implemented.

I would definitely recommend the book, but like I said if you are serious about stats I would be more than willing to discuss them and let you know some principles and ideas which you NEED to know to do accurate stats.

 

[Lorenzinho]

No I'm not wanting to edit my own stats, I'm just interested as to why the balance is so vital.

Anyway, doing any Italy players soon? Seen much of Gilardino?

 

[bagrunnell]

Oh, ok fair enough. Yes, I will have some Italy players up soon, Camoranesi, Toni, Totti, just working on them at the moment. Also got Neville to post, and some other requests from a while ago such as Boa Morte, Fabregas. Will try and mix it up a bit so people can stay interested.

 

[Mads-TheChamp]

Face: Skin colour 1
Head height -2
Head width -3
Type 9
Colour 1 - 2
Colour 2 - Black 2

Hairstyle: Type - Special 75
Colour - 9
Facial hair: Type - 76
Colour - 5

Boots: Adidas Predator Absolute TRX - Gold/Black

Physique: Height 186cm
Weight 73kg
Neck length 0
Neck width +2
Shoulder height +1
Shoulder width -2
Chest measurement 0
Waist circumference +1
Arm circumference -2
Leg circumference +1
Calf circumference 0
Leg length +1

Accesories: Tucked in shirt
Seasonal sleeves

Right, here we have one of the best if not THE best pure attacking midfielder in the world. (In my opinion of course!) A huge asset to both the Brazilian squad, although he admittedly had a poor World Cup, and he makes a terrific midfield at AC Milan, into one of the best midfields at the moment. With Gattuso sweeping up the bits and pieces and Pirlo distributing the ball from his deep position, Kaka has a lot of freedom in his attacking areas (I havent even mentioned the great job Seedorf does connecting the flow). With this freedom, he demonstrates his fantastic abilities such as pace and technique, vision and passing.

Now on default settings, Konami had done a decent job on Kaka but there were small tweaks needed all over the board really, and in some cases, bigger ones. I wont go into quite as much detail as I did with some of the poorer done players such as Juninho, but there are stil a couple of points I will make.

Pace and acceleration - Kaka's first great asset is that he has and acceleration. When you take into account those long strides that he takes, it makes his acceleration even more remarkable. Values of 89 for top speed and acceleration are just right, and we now have the right balance between these two stats to make it seem like Kaka. A very fast dribble speed aswell, 88 is spot on for that aswell.

Passing - In addition to the terrific technical abilities he possess's, he also aids his club and national team by creating play aswell, with great passes and vision. It's all about getting the balance right with relevant stats. So I feel now that his passing stats, team work, and special stars are balanced just right so we get realistic passing behaviour from Kaka. I wont quote all the passing abilites, but the inclusion of the passing star and a team work value of 84 mean we get the right effect ingame when balanced with his basic passing stats.

Brazilian technique - Yet again, here we have a Brazilian player, and so yet again here I am saying how good his technique is!:laugh: So technique value of 91, dribble accuracy of 88, and weak foot accuracy of 6, show fantastic general technique, and portray his technical abilites very well in the game.


Thats all I really have to say about him. To sum him up, I would say he is a very well rounded player. Great strength, pace, stamina, passing, shooting (fantastic one on one finisher), and great mentality. He not only has the natural ability, but he also has the right ATTITUDE, which a lot of young players miss now-a-days.

Fantastic, again, all what you do is fantastic, i would wish my was so good...

If i should say one thing, he has a fantastic shot!

But fantastic... that you do!

 

[bagrunnell]

Firstly mad, thank you very much.

Secondly, dont say things like you wish yours were as good as mine! You have the ability to produce something of a very high standard, and I have spoke to you about this over PM. Every body starts somewhere, and we just need to put a bit of hard work in and you can easily produce something of a high standard.

 

[mufcsean]

bags congrats on another success kaka' is perfect thanks mate

 

[Mads-TheChamp]

Firstly mad, thank you very much.

Secondly, dont say things like you wish yours were as good as mine! You have the ability to produce something of a very high standard, and I have spoke to you about this over PM. Every body starts somewhere, and we just need to put a bit of hard work in and you can easily produce something of a high standard.

Thank you my friend...

Maybe your right, sometimes there come a fantastic shot from Kaka, but now everytime, so i think it's good...

And he is fast, he is good to the dribble thing.

And good to everything, but not fantastic to the whole...

You make the most realistic stats!

 

[Timblez]

Oh, ok fair enough. Yes, I will have some Italy players up soon, Camoranesi, Toni, Totti, just working on them at the moment. Also got Neville to post, and some other requests from a while ago such as Boa Morte, Fabregas. Will try and mix it up a bit so people can stay interested.

Totti's difficult, very inconsistent at the mo.:unsure:

 

[]NikE[]

Cracking Kaka
ill add him sometime tomorrow
looking forward to the italian players and neville of course

 

[Marquez4]

hey, i was wondering if you where gonna do Ronaldinho?

 

[bitz]

Certainly. I was refering to the piggyback offical guide for PES5. It has definitions of each stat, and lets you know some facts about each that you probably didnt know. It also provides information of mistranslations, so some of the stats are not what they seem.

Having said that though, it really is a basic explanation to the mechanics of each stat. It is going to inform you of what each stat does in the simplest form,a dn even then it makes some mistakes. It is still very useful if you are seriously considering editing stats. For example while it does give you an explanation about both the attack and defence values, it covers just one of the issues that each stat is relevant to. We could talk for hours about effects of these two values, their 'ratio', things which you cant really read about, but have to have principles of, which can then be implemented.

I would definitely recommend the book, but like I said if you are serious about stats I would be more than willing to discuss them and let you know some principles and ideas which you NEED to know to do accurate stats.

I''m sure many people are interested in a further explanation on what a stat truly measures and it would be a good idea to post a brief explanation for each stat, what it really does, which stats can possibly influence, by which stats can it be possibly influenced etc. Yeah i'd certainly found it very useful bagrunnel and btw Kaka is perfect!

 

[wiganlatics]

Please can you do some Goalkeepers in your thread because i've noticed that you have not done any.

Yep i noticed that aswell but it could be because gk are hard to do as they could have a good game and do one dodgy mistake and get remembered for that mistake therefore people think there dodgy so the stats will be hard to do

Yes that is true, but some keepers are more likely to hav a good game than others and some are more likely to make mistakes than others.

How many mistakes do keepers like Gianluigi Buffon make, compared to someone like John Filan?