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Dare I say that in the whole of PES 2011, BAL is the...

OptimusPrime

Registered User
Worst piece of crap AI scripting in the game.

Usually i get pes a few days after the release date, but this year I hesitated since i'm kicking ass on Warcraft but OK.

I decided to have a go at it, I was doing Christmas shopping for my son and I got my copy of PES as well.

To my surprise it felt good ..it actually felt like PES 5.

I usually played a few games, tried the "new"Copa Libertadores but my main focus for the last few years since it started has been BAL. I was wondering what "new features" there were this year.

I set up my player with speed and shooting as my main focus and joined RODA JC.

I immediately noticed that you couldn't take the bal for a stroll over the pitch anymore simply because you'll instant get like 3-4 AI players on you...first dissapointment but ok...It simply pushed me to create space for myself, run into open spaces and be more aware of my teammates, to give good passes..I swallowed it under the section "realism".
U know the stuff u purists ( *cough* shaun 77 * cough* ) tell people like me when we complain :D

Passes?..yes passes.. the thing where you put your foot against the ball and you press the A button and it ends up with a teammate....where as I notice, all evolves around this years Bal next to speed..that was no more :no: ..dissapointment two...you now have to work with the cursor and point to where you want the bal to go.:crymore:
The thing is that Konami seems to think that because you start at the age of 17, a (accurate )pass between 5 yards is something u are able to do when your 26-29 years old.

Than came my other main feature. I was searching for the shooting bar to noticed that it went from a straight line to a circle..that was also new :happy: ..I thought maybe the circle would prefent me from ballooning shots when i was 1 meter a part from the goalline..dissapointment 3 :shocking:..it is much HARDER to time a shot now than last year, ah well maybe Seabass thought it would convince me to but the game this year too...because other thab that the circle is pointless and the straight bar would do....Seabass 1 Me (the sucker again) 0

Ok I must admit some thing changed for better..the 100 rainy out of 105 games were thrown out...finally..and i like the (repetitive) manager feature..They finally got the extra time stuff straightened out and the songs at the beginning are nice."Cinquanta Milla"..rings through my mind...BUT that's about it...because:

- Penalty view ( Konami gets a BIG WTF???!! ):realmad:
- Teammates IQ ( I mean pursuing a ball that's destined for a goal kick and turning it into a corner, so the AI can score the decisive goal..C'mon Son ) :shocking:
-Referee calls ( If Nigel de Jong style tackles multiplied by 1000 is only good for a yellow card..or in most cases no call at all...with Jim "sounds like I have a cold " Beglin saying good tackle ...is beyond my rationality ):w00t
-Players bending over and freezing after the ball has been stolen :unsure:
-3 seconds between actually pushing the shooting button and the player actually lifting his foot is..is..:crymore: It actually seems like while your press for shooting u immediately trigger the AI defending you to tackle...because they have to be real mindreaders sometimes to know what your about to do..
- Sub at 60-70 minutes..C'mon Seabass I KNOW U HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE ON HOW ANNOYING IT IS...NO UNDERSTANDY ENGLISH HUH ??? :cool: ..yeah I would use that one too

Not to make a long ass list but the above mentioned things really dont do the rest of the game justice..and its a damn shame because I almost....almost....relived the GLORY days of pes
 

raff77

Registered User
Worst piece of crap AI scripting in the game.

Usually i get pes a few days after the release date, but this year I hesitated since i'm kicking ass on Warcraft but OK.

I decided to have a go at it, I was doing Christmas shopping for my son and I got my copy of PES as well.

To my surprise it felt good ..it actually felt like PES 5.

I usually played a few games, tried the "new"Copa Libertadores but my main focus for the last few years since it started has been BAL. I was wondering what "new features" there were this year.

I set up my player with speed and shooting as my main focus and joined RODA JC.

I immediately noticed that you couldn't take the bal for a stroll over the pitch anymore simply because you'll instant get like 3-4 AI players on you...first dissapointment but ok...It simply pushed me to create space for myself, run into open spaces and be more aware of my teammates, to give good passes..I swallowed it under the section "realism".
U know the stuff u purists ( *cough* shaun 77 * cough* ) tell people like me when we complain :D

Passes?..yes passes.. the thing where you put your foot against the ball and you press the A button and it ends up with a teammate....where as I notice, all evolves around this years Bal next to speed..that was no more :no: ..dissapointment two...you now have to work with the cursor and point to where you want the bal to go.:crymore:
The thing is that Konami seems to think that because you start at the age of 17, a (accurate )pass between 5 yards is something u are able to do when your 26-29 years old.

Than came my other main feature. I was searching for the shooting bar to noticed that it went from a straight line to a circle..that was also new :happy: ..I thought maybe the circle would prefent me from ballooning shots when i was 1 meter a part from the goalline..dissapointment 3 :shocking:..it is much HARDER to time a shot now than last year, ah well maybe Seabass thought it would convince me to but the game this year too...because other thab that the circle is pointless and the straight bar would do....Seabass 1 Me (the sucker again) 0

Ok I must admit some thing changed for better..the 100 rainy out of 105 games were thrown out...finally..and i like the (repetitive) manager feature..They finally got the extra time stuff straightened out and the songs at the beginning are nice."Cinquanta Milla"..rings through my mind...BUT that's about it...because:

- Penalty view ( Konami gets a BIG WTF???!! ):realmad:
- Teammates IQ ( I mean pursuing a ball that's destined for a goal kick and turning it into a corner, so the AI can score the decisive goal..C'mon Son ) :shocking:
-Referee calls ( If Nigel de Jong style tackles multiplied by 1000 is only good for a yellow card..or in most cases no call at all...with Jim "sounds like I have a cold " Beglin saying good tackle ...is beyond my rationality ):w00t
-Players bending over and freezing after the ball has been stolen :unsure:
-3 seconds between actually pushing the shooting button and the player actually lifting his foot is..is..:crymore: It actually seems like while your press for shooting u immediately trigger the AI defending you to tackle...because they have to be real mindreaders sometimes to know what your about to do..
- Sub at 60-70 minutes..C'mon Seabass I KNOW U HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE ON HOW ANNOYING IT IS...NO UNDERSTANDY ENGLISH HUH ??? :cool: ..yeah I would use that one too

Not to make a long ass list but the above mentioned things really dont do the rest of the game justice..and its a damn shame because I almost....almost....relived the GLORY days of pes

agree with u on some points like 3-4 players pushin u off the ball and the shooting is woeful,the main annoying thing with bal is ai through pass everytime instead of a normal or lofted ball like in last years bal were the service was varied i think it has taken a backward step this year in terms of playability hope they sort this out in a patch,and also noticed no euro or world cup qualifiers like last year just stupid friendlies then straight to a tournament i mean why remove that ??
 

jackass

Registered User
I agree that the AI is scripted, one thing I've noticed is that the team you play as seems to perform weaker against stronger teams, they make more mistakes miss simple chances on goal, don't defend properly, don't pass properly compared to when they play crap teams where they play much better.
 

maraduzza

Registered User
raff77 my bal player as been playing in world cup qualifiers mate(topped the group so qualified for world cup) im playing for argentina by the way
 

dan80

Registered User
Yeah there is qualifiers but all at the end of the seaosn which i dont get id rather the friendlies be proper qualiflying games.
 

raff77

Registered User
raff77 my bal player as been playing in world cup qualifiers mate(topped the group so qualified for world cup) im playing for argentina by the way

oh rite i dont remember playin any for euro 2012 with italy thats all,just friendlies then tournament i ll post again wen world cup games come up,if i still playin bal the AI defending and attackin really pissin me off constant through ball along the ground and low crosses.
 

Carmi88

Registered User
The AI actually makes me want to consider going back to fifa, hopefully whoever is incharge of AI get sacked, one can only hope...
 

sjm

Registered User
I wish they would sprinkle Euro and WC qualifying matches throughout the season like in real world, and have actual size of the groups too.

But I guess they had to put a bunch of friendlies so that you have a chance of making in the team. Still, I don't see why you can't get a shot at the team through qualies instead of friendlies.
 

maraduzza

Registered User
guys you do play qualifiers on it
unless its maybe cause im not european on it im south american? i dunno
 
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