Defending

[DaiSCFC]

Hi all,

I've played Pro all my life, and usually around this time I become comfortable with the game. I find it fairly straight forward to score, however defending this time around for me is a nightmare.

I time my tackles pretty consistently, however the decisions are inconsistent. Quite often I find myself either conceeding from corners or freekicks, if not then having to scramble the ball away/clear it off the line.

I also get frustrated by my teams defensive positioning. For example, if I attempt to win the ball with one of my centre backs and lose out, quite often the other centre half will be static when the ball is played past him and onto the opposition. I usually play a 4-4-2 / 4-3-3, but once I even tried to play a 5-3-2 but without success.

I decided the players must not have been good enough - so I sold a couple of my centre backs and signed a couple of top defenders on master league. It is getting slightly better, but I can never seem to keep a clean sheet. A recent game against United, I was 2-0 down, brought it back to be leading 4-3 at half time but then lose 5-4 after extra time. Ridiculous, however I am having more of these games than the 2-0, 3-1 games I crave due to realism.

Anyone have any suggestions or had this problem themselves?

Cheers.

 

[DIECI]

the passing is way too advanced for the defensive system, you could breakdown defenses at will with timely through passes.

 

[Montanaro]

yeah, they "improved the defense" this year (just added a couple new animations) while at the same time making them swiss cheese.

I mean seriously, the defense was supposed to be better this year, and have all sorts of new animations and battling on the ball. That isn't the case, the whole battling and body balance system was better last year IMO.

 

[DivineSaint]

I was very good at defending, after patch 1.02 i cant defend anymore, thats why quit game till new patch

 

[S-D-P]

Try to avoid holding the sprint button and focus on positioning your defenders, the AI tries to draw you out of position so the best bet is to close down the passing lanes.

 

[u1tradt]

I was very good at defending, after patch 1.02 i cant defend anymore, thats why quit game till new patch

Or you could just remove the patch from your console.

As for the defending, I agree that defending in this game is flawed but it's definitely an improvement on previous versions. I'd say stop trying to slide tackle every player that enters your half of the pitch and focus on marking the players that will be a serious threat when the opponent has the ball. In other words, don't just focus on the guy with the ball, analyse his options and take care of them as you see fit. I too was having problems with through balls splitting my defence apart too easily, but once I started marking players ahead of the man in possession and making my defenders gain a head-start on the man he's marking, I have experienced this problem a lot less.

Defending isn't just about dispossessing whoever has the ball, it's about staying organised, giving the man on the ball few options to attack and applying pressure constantly without losing your shape and structure. Don't always let yourself get sucked into the guy with the ball - retain your shape.

 

[DivineSaint]

I dont know how to remove, and I only play online, so no point for me.
I dont slide tackle lot, only to get the ball or to slow down counter attack for my guyz to catch them, so no problem with slide tackles. I do that analysi also, dude i am not noob i was in top 250.

what i talk about are buttons. somethings wrong with them, somethings changed, for example i use R2 a lot at defending which is not known by most of pes players which causes me to get a lot of balls by pressure, now the button combos I use at defending not working, X(shoot), A(Pass), R2, R1, and of course direction arrows to use with X

 

[alizawi]

the defending is better than any game I have ever played...in 2010, the defender would just dive in if you continue pressing X, and attackers would burn you easily... now, its easier to stand off on defense, so you wait for the attacker to make the mistake and go in for the challenge..

as for the through balls, offside trap is the perfect antidote... just gotta time it right...and use man marking, it helps... come on, think the way you would if playing a real life game...that's the direction PES is heading.

 

[1bennett1]

What happened to the new Jockey/Tackle system? The players do jockey (badly), but when it comes to trying the stab tackle they don't. This is doubly annoying because the dribbling is so bad that tackling should be easy. I guess Konami were lying about it.

 

[1bennett1]

What happened to the new Jockey/Tackle system? The players do jockey (badly), but when it comes to trying the stab tackle they don't. This is doubly annoying because the dribbling is so bad that tackling should be easy.

 

[minenow]

try activating Defensive Possession in your in-game strategies (select + X/O/etc) - I've been using this alot online and it does pull your men back considerably quicker when losing posession in your opponents half.

I play 3-2-3-2 formation with two defensive midfielders providing much needed cover for the sparse back line. Activating the Defensive Possession strategy pulls my DMF's back quickly enough to essentially create a five man defensive wall that is more difficult to bypass with the admittedly overpowered thru-ball.

*Disclaimer* I said more difficult, not impossible...

 

[arda9653]

Maybe edit Who you are marking before the match ? Sometimes when you change position the Markers change. Try having your centre backs mark the Best strikets..