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difficult to implement but would make the game better...

girish

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i thought about this after reading an interview with the guy that helped make pro:

*he said many ppl have talked about choosing which players to put in a wall defending a freekick or selecting which players go foward for corners and which stay back- but that it was difficult to do and that he could not guarantee it for the next pro-ie this one. tactically it would be a good asset to have.

*going further the other thing i dont like is when i change my team setting to all out attack, the gk only comes up for corner when its like 89 minutes. there should be an option wer u can tell him to go all out attack when you want ie for throw ins too.

*putting men on the line when defending freekicks is another idea i would like to see. for some reason there are usually two on it during corners and they can defend. only thing i find annoying is they sometimes dont head the ball clear.

*i'd also like the game to distinguish between a roy keane type tackeler to a more conservative one/holding back

*i had to adjust the balance of certain players to give an indication of diving which works fine but it would be good if this could be seen

*some handballs are clear as day in replays but nothing is given
 

Psimonius

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i thought about this after reading an interview with the guy that helped make pro:

*he said many ppl have talked about choosing which players to put in a wall defending a freekick or selecting which players go foward for corners and which stay back- but that it was difficult to do and that he could not guarantee it for the next pro-ie this one. tactically it would be a good asset to have.

I think this could be done easily enough. It would need to be done in the formations menu however, and at the very least in edit mode.

*going further the other thing i dont like is when i change my team setting to all out attack, the gk only comes up for corner when its like 89 minutes. there should be an option wer u can tell him to go all out attack when you want ie for throw ins too.

You can change the keepers attitude to a more attacking one. You might be able to give him an arrow direction as well. This should influence how often he leaves his area.

*putting men on the line when defending freekicks is another idea i would like to see. for some reason there are usually two on it during corners and they can defend. only thing i find annoying is they sometimes dont head the ball clear.

You can manually put a player on the line for freekicks. There is always enough time. I've stopped many a goal doing this.

*i'd also like the game to distinguish between a roy keane type tackeler to a more conservative one/holding back

The game already does this.

*i had to adjust the balance of certain players to give an indication of diving which works fine but it would be good if this could be seen

Some players do fall over quite often. This can be conveyed as diving.

*some handballs are clear as day in replays but nothing is given

The handball rule is hard to implement. When it was introduced in earlier PES versions, there was a freekick for handball too often. If there was a system where only the blatent fouls were punished, I'm all for it.
 

girish

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*i'd also like the game to distinguish between a roy keane type tackeler to a more conservative one/holding back

The game already does this. (how- where in the edit is it?)

Other things i have thought about:

*Can someone explain to me why your attacker can only move a certain amount towards a kicker taking a free kick (the 10 yard rule-fine,) but it seems there is a barrier when you are trying to defend the ball when the opponant has a throw in- their player can stand close and get the ball but you aren'a allowed to move towards him INVISIBLE BOUNDARY

*I hope they have sorted out this INVISIBLE BOUNDARY for the new one for gk's too as they seem to never be sent off for handling the ball outside their area. in fact they pick the ball up move inside their area and take the goal kick as if nothing has happened. this invisible boundary is there when they are saving a corner or shot too (ball doesnt run out of play.) However relating to this issue the MOST ANNOYING THING is why can you not properly challennge the goalkeeper in the air when eg a cross- the gk always gets it or misses the punch but you cannot physically knock the ball from him

*i know there is going to be a broader randomness of referees as the ones in pes5 are too strict. but this is going to be pointless unless there is a wey of finding out befoe the match how strict they are eg a marking out of 10 would be sweet or a short paragraph including which country they're from. give the refs a bit of an identity too, after all they are wearing official kits in pes6!

*it would be nice and more realistic to know how much injury time is worth according to the clock. i know ppl can work it out for themselves but it would add a nice touch so that the clock doesnt just stop at 90 and say stoppage time instead.perhaps it would look good if on the top left of the screen you could also see the guy bringing out the injurytime board and see the time added on- as a motion not just to see time added on pop up.

*2 MAJOR GRIPES EVERYONE I HAVE SPOKEN TO ARE
1....the computer has a habit of automatically changing player for you. eg i aim to pass the ball to a striker who has just made a run. but the computer automatically changes the control of that player so that his run moves and thus my pass is mistimes or intercepted (when it wouldnt have been.) Adjusting curser speed doesnt help.

2....when you take a shot the power bar charge up. when the ball is say interceoted as i am about to swing the boot or the shot is blocked, the power bar remains on. then the ball comes back to me or the computer controls my player when i dont want it to- and the point is the player then turns and performs the action that the previous attempt was for. this is hard to explain but basiaclly you cannot cancel the action once it has not happened but should have happened as the power bar remains as it was when you attempted the action.

*I have noticed that sometimes the ball crosses the line in replays and a goal isnt given. similarly, a player is offside and scores and it isnt given offside. also sometimes a throw in/corner decision doesnt go your way and when you 'foul' but clearly got the ball and a free kick is given to against you- all these annoy me. im in a difficult position here as they all make the game realistic as mistakes happen, yet it is so annoying when something is so blatent and the game doesnt see it.
 

girish

Registered User
cant seem to edit by message i just posted so im putting it as a new one:

i think the biggest thing i would like though is for the pitches to be better.

why was there snow and then you couldnt play in snow in master league.

i also dont like the fact that you dont know what month you're in via the calender.

if they aren't allowed to use money to buy player and points then why not eg a player would cost 1 million quid say he is worth 1 million points. that avoids the licensing. also keel the tranfer window realistic. I CANNOT UNDERSTAND Y KONAMI WANT TO USE POINTS!

giving trials to new comers would be a good addition

the pitch should change seasonally- ie lush and green in summer etc and muggy to the winter. chelsea are you listening
 

DesertFox

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One thing I would really like from the ones metioned above is the choosing defenders etc for corners. I would love to see a materazzi, marquez and what not up there making goals with headers or a hand of god. The other thing is the points system, it would be much more realistic and so much awesome to have a real money system. Maybe an option where you could change the currency from being displayed as U.S.D to european pounds and vice versa.


Now for my request, I would love to see more teams from the North American, Central and South American regions and just stick them in into the Other Leagues category.

Some teams that could and should be implemented are -
Chivas or America or Pumas (Mex)
Boca Juniors or River Plate (Arg)
D.C. United or L.A. Galaxy (USA)
Corinthians and get Sao Paolo licensed

What do you guys think?
 

girish

Registered User
agree with your last point esp as clubs do a pre season in places like the usa. a rumour i heard was that there would be a stadium in africa in the new pro. can anyone confirm or deny this?
 

Stormrider

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*putting men on the line when defending freekicks is another idea i would like to see. for some reason there are usually two on it during corners and they can defend. only thing i find annoying is they sometimes dont head the ball clear.
ummm do it urself...and they don't always head the ball out in real life either...

*i'd also like the game to distinguish between a roy keane type tackeler to a more conservative one/holding back
Individual->Mark Settings->Covering, for conservative, Man Mark for Roy Keane. Very noticeable.

*i had to adjust the balance of certain players to give an indication of diving which works fine but it would be good if this could be seen
ummm C.Ronaldo falls a hell of a lot for someone with 84 balance. Nedved also has 84 but doesn't fall down nearly as much.

*some handballs are clear as day in replays but nothing is given
just like in real life eh?
 

girish

Registered User
oh i no you can use covering i asked as i thought the response was something you could change in edit mode as when you edit a default formation, you cannot select a player to be covering. ACTUALLY THATS ANOTHER POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED!

as for handballs my only point was in replays i have taken a shot, its blatently been handled away from goal by the defender and no penalty is given.

i try and move a player on the line but they move back and just stand there.

ive put divers down to a balance of 30. they are still strong but fall down sometimes.
 

goalgerd

Registered User
i remember back in iss deluxe on the snes a player taking a corner wud have the option of taking it with either his right or left foot,i think this would be a good thing 2have in the current game as thers nothing worse than having 2change players everytime you want to take an in or out swinger. surely if konami were able 2put this option in a 12year old snes game they could put in the ps2 version,no doubt it will turn up again in the new ps3 version as a brand new feature
 
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