Difficulty rather than animation

[sabocat]

I've been playing PES14 for a while now, and at first I loved it. I wanted to rub FIFA's development staff's faces in it and say "See? That's what the f*cking game is supposed to be like!" I was playing on a lower difficulty setting, and as in FIFA, winning every game by at least 5 goals (usually 8-10). This got old quickly.

I upped the difficulty from "amateur" to "regular", thinking this would add difficulty. A foolish assumption, I know. Rather than the game getting smarter, it simply negates my input. I press "pass left" the game passes right. I can only move in 90 degree directions. Player switching absolutely REFUSES to select the player literally STANDING next to an empty ball with no pressure. The opposition gets it, and surprise, they score. Players miss easy passes a grade-schooler would be ashamed to miss at the worst possible time (i.e., right in front of goal). Not because I made a bad pass into pressure or something, just the game decided that f*ck me. Every game I've got 12+ shots on goal, maybe 1 goes in if I'm lucky. The CPU has 2 and they both go in. The CPU wins EVERY 50/50 ball. Every loose ball goes directly to the CPU. EVERY. TIME.

This doesn't feel like difficulty, it feels like watching an animation where I lose. The enjoyment of the game comes from picking out the right pass, timing and weighting it correctly, and executing a killer strike. It's not fun (remember, the point of a game is to be fun?) when my choices and input are overriden and mistakes forced upon me as a cheap way of adding "difficulty".

So my question is: is there a way to add difficulty to the game without making it feel like not a game?

 

[PEStyles]

I've been playing PES14 for a while now, and at first I loved it. I wanted to rub FIFA's development staff's faces in it and say "See? That's what the f*cking game is supposed to be like!" I was playing on a lower difficulty setting, and as in FIFA, winning every game by at least 5 goals (usually 8-10). This got old quickly.

I upped the difficulty from "amateur" to "regular", thinking this would add difficulty. A foolish assumption, I know. Rather than the game getting smarter, it simply negates my input. I press "pass left" the game passes right. I can only move in 90 degree directions. Player switching absolutely REFUSES to select the player literally STANDING next to an empty ball with no pressure. The opposition gets it, and surprise, they score. Players miss easy passes a grade-schooler would be ashamed to miss at the worst possible time (i.e., right in front of goal). Not because I made a bad pass into pressure or something, just the game decided that f*ck me. Every game I've got 12+ shots on goal, maybe 1 goes in if I'm lucky. The CPU has 2 and they both go in. The CPU wins EVERY 50/50 ball. Every loose ball goes directly to the CPU. EVERY. TIME.

This doesn't feel like difficulty, it feels like watching an animation where I lose. The enjoyment of the game comes from picking out the right pass, timing and weighting it correctly, and executing a killer strike. It's not fun (remember, the point of a game is to be fun?) when my choices and input are overriden and mistakes forced upon me as a cheap way of adding "difficulty".

So my question is: is there a way to add difficulty to the game without making it feel like not a game?

Its because konami mistakes the word "difficulty" it translates "handicap"

The only answer i could give you is when game was without the 800+playerface pack. I noticed everyone finding tons of bugs were playing on Superstar personally i played on TopPlayer and the game was balanced out so perfect defenders closed down quicker harder todo the cheap chip shot and the main one not being able to run straight through the middle to the gk from kickoff, So test TopPlayer and Superstar out and see if its the same because this in older PES Series sometimes Top player and professional behaved more balanced

 

[princo45]

So my question is: is there a way to add difficulty to the game without making it feel like not a game?

Please read my wall of text of my frustration with this sadistic game:

http://www.pesgaming.com/showpost.php?p=2100190&postcount=4

 

[harmonyvid35]

Play Pes 14 as turn based strategy game and you'll be less frustrated

 

[PEStyles]

Play Pes 14 as turn based strategy game and you'll be less frustrated

Well Said.

 

[sabocat]

Its because konami mistakes the word "difficulty" it translates "handicap"

The only answer i could give you is when game was without the 800+playerface pack. I noticed everyone finding tons of bugs were playing on Superstar personally i played on TopPlayer and the game was balanced out so perfect defenders closed down quicker harder todo the cheap chip shot and the main one not being able to run straight through the middle to the gk from kickoff, So test TopPlayer and Superstar out and see if its the same because this in older PES Series sometimes Top player and professional behaved more balanced

Tried your suggestion, and while Top Player and Superstar are BETTER than "regular" the game still eliminates player input, creates mistakes, and generally ensures nothing fun about the game survives into the more difficult levels.

Play Pes 14 as turn based strategy game and you'll be less frustrated

I think it's more apropos to think of it as a cold sack of dog shit. Last football game I EVER pay for. Fuck these people.

 

[Mc Görk]

I never had the game eliminating player input. Some players need a little longer especially when a defender is standing on their feets and thats it. Also use RT/R2 when you receive the ball so the player get it better under control.