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Final word on PES 2009

minanda10

Registered User
A lot has been written about this year’s instalment of our favourite footballing videogame; most of it negative. Whilst faring slightly better than 2008, in terms of reviews and ratings, most people seem to agree that PES has not hit the heights expected (by some) on the next generation of consoles and many have been disappointed to the point of defecting to FIFA.

Not me.

Were people’s expectations unrealistic? Or am I just easily pleased? I’m not sure. The fact remains however, that I’m still playing PES 2009 and I’ll be playing it right up until the moment I get my hands on PES 2010.

I’ve been playing football games since the halcyon days of my youth on my much beloved, rubber-keyed, 48k ZX Spectrum. My first taste of PES (ISS) was on the Super Nintendo and I’ve never looked back.

Of course, I’m not blind to the game’s faults and I’m not about to claim that PES 2009 is perfect, but where in life is perfection ever achieved? And what would happen if Konami did enable our transcendence to videogame nirvana? Surely everything that followed would be a huge disappointment?

Anyway, I just wanted to say that despite it’s faults, the experience of playing PES 2009 has been one of the most enjoyable I’ve ever had. While I agree with many that PES 6 was perhaps the best in terms of gameplay, I’m resistant to going backwards and would rather embrace the future. Which for me, is PES on the PS3.

Become A Legend mode has consumed my life for the past eleven months, in a manner which even the lauded Master League never achieved. I’ve played out an entire career in BAL, while I never managed more than six seasons in the Master League. Interestingly, some of the ‘faults’ that people have documented with regard to PES 2009, such as the ease of dribbling (turning at full speed, etc.), I have found to be advantageous in BAL and even speculated that the inclusion of this mode may have directly affected gameplay development.

Also, it’s my first year online with my PS3 and I have been enormously impressed with the updates – especially after the January transfer window. These breathed new life into the game for me and in turn frustrated me when playing on a friends ‘straight out of the box’ version.

The bottom line is, I made Konami richer by around forty pounds this year and in return I have received 12 months (11 so far) of gaming pleasure. There simply aren’t any other games (or other experiences) that offer me this kind of value for money - it’s less than the price of a ticket to see ninety minutes of live football.

Finally, I have played the PES 2010 demo and thought it was very promising indeed. It put me in mind of some of my favourite games from the past, whilst looking decidedly next-generation. However, I’ve only played it a handful of times as I don’t want to spoil the enjoyment of my final four weeks with PES 2009.
 

iosonocanadese

Registered User
Good review!

It's really funny with me and PES, but every single time I've bought an ISS/PES game it's the same experience: the first few times I play it, I utterly hate it. It's a weird game, virtually impossible to play right out of the box, everything feels so unwieldy and I wonder if I shouldn't just go back to the store right now and get my money back. But as I play it, I start to master the fine art of controlling my team, and I start to see the real genius of the game. Then usually by the time I've had it for two or three months, I absolutely swear by it and laud the genius of it to anyone who'll listen.

This is exactly what happened to me once again this year with PES '09. At first I hated it, for a myriad of reasons; it was hard to control the ball, passing was a headache, shooting was difficult, I kept losing the ball and couldn't figure out how to defend, etc.

As I played it, though, I began to see what was so great about it, and that, as always, is the gameplay. PES allows you to play any style of football you want, and you can actually have success with any style, as is realistic, as long as your tactics are right. I prefer to play a short passing game through the midfield, and unlike in FIFA, which always forces you into the same patterns of play, I can actually play it with some degree of success.

And once again, despite its obvious flaws like crappy animations, lack of any presentation of which to speak and free kicks that are insanely hard to master, I still love it because of the gameplay. I've had a lot of fun with PES 09 as well, and will probably continue to play it alongside PES 10.
 

requiem7

Registered User
I have been playing PES09 for a while on the master league. I have only had a couple of problems with it. When the players are a bit retarded and don't make the right runs. And sometimes the scripts that allow the opposition to score.
 

Rasmus

Registered User
Nice thread an review m8 :) I have really enjoyed pes09 the first 6 months playing it. But in time it became more and more boring (unlike the earlier pes-games) So the last couple of months i've just played all the leagues and cups etc. And had to win all the trophies in master league with a mimor team. Always do that before the new pes gets released.

The gameplay frustrated me - in particular playing assisted cursor change (that ment assisted tackles as well, which let me to conceed many penalty kicks when i did not press the sliding tackle button) In BAL the AI messed up a lot in the games, but i did like playing as a young player for several big teams anyway.

I got really mad when i found out that they had changed the way the keepers got out of the goal. Now they suddenly went to side instead of just rushing straight forward. MANY goals are scored due to rubbish keeping. Sometimes they just knock the ball away when no one is near them instead of just holding it.

What i really liked was the free kicks - however i disliked the fact that the kicker could not move until about 5 seconds after the free kick being taken when the ball hit the wall.

Buffon and Julio cesar was highly overrated in the game.

The defenders could still run after you and get the ball even though you were running up the flank with some one with 90 in speed/acceleration.
But in spite of these things overall i've enjoyed a good game of pro evo. At the same time i really look forward to the next one - having played my final game in pes 09 :)
 

requiem7

Registered User
What i really liked was the free kicks - however i disliked the fact that the kicker could not move until about 5 seconds after the free kick being taken when the ball hit the wall.
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thats really retarded. I hate that. When you could have got another shot in as well.
 

considine46

Registered User
Well i'd say PES 2009 has JUST managed to keep me going for a year.About 8 months of ML on top player with a month or so on cups and leagues,the last few months on BAL.So if it hadnt been for the welcome addition of BAL i feel i'd probably have been stuck!When i think that PES 5 became so much of a good thing i played it for two years,unfortunately missing PES 6 and moving onto PES 2008 (BIG MISTAKE)
The thing for me was i just didnt find top player hard enough on ML.If it wasnt for the scripting i dont think the opposition wouldve scored against me!
I downloaded the demo of PES 2010 last night ready to play tonight.While at work i decided that when i got in id play one exhibition game on PES 5 (PS2),then one game on PES 2009 (PS3) then play the PES 2010 demo,all on top player,as i say after only playing BAL lately.
Well i won 2-1 on PES 5 in ten minutes,won 4-2 on 2009 and lost 2-0 on 2010!
I think hopefully the difficulty is back and 2010 looks beautiful.
Ive had to play the others to make sense of 2009 and i think my first impressions were how i still feel about it now.
It wasnt difficult enough.It didnt look as good as i hoped (although i felt the same about GTA IV over San Andreas)
In its defence though BAL is brilliant,the game has more of a fluid feel and its sill managed to be good enough to keep me going to the next instalment!So i reckon overall 2009 wasnt bad,but not the next generation perfection i hoped for
 

Rasmus

Registered User
The ML did keep me busy for 7-8 months as well. The BAL a couple of months hereafter, and after that i won the eredivisie, Serie a and la liga. Now having played my last game in pes 2009 a month ago i only look forward to pes 2010. Let's se what they can provide this time..
 

muscularmatt

Registered User
What i really liked was the free kicks - however i disliked the fact that the kicker could not move until about 5 seconds after the free kick being taken when the ball hit the wall.
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thats really retarded. I hate that. When you could have got another shot in as well.

yeah, man! that does my fucking head in!

but overall yeah, i have been very happy with 2009, i think it's been
a good game and a MASSIVE improvement on 2008, but remember
guys - the first version of a series on a new console is always shit,
it takes a year or two for developers to really get to grips with
the new hardware and what they can get out of it.
 

Rasmus

Registered User
^ Agree. I'm optimistic this time (as always). I think they're going to give us a great game of football.
 

Blade1889

Registered User
I'm of a pretty similar opinion to most. I've been fairly happy with PES 2009 and I've def got my moneys worth!

Things I found most annoying were keepers palming it out and giving away cheap goals and the stupid delays on freekicks and invisible forcefields around throwins.

I still think it plays a great game of football when at it's best though and the inclusion of Champs Lg and BAL have really added to the longevity of the game.

I'm really optimistic about PES 2010 now too!! :)
 
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