First impressions (better/worse/same)

[Dundon's]

Here we go again gents it's that time of the year so I though a quick better/worse/same guide was in order.

Graphics:

Sound:

Commentary:

Menu:

Shooting:

Passing:

Dribbling:

Goalkeepers:

Freekicks:

Penalties:

Skills:
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Good points:

Bad points:

 

[theman]

is this for the full game or the demo?

 

[Dundon's]

The demo mate. Some people will get to play it tomorrow on PS3 but a lot of us will have to wait until next week for the PC version.

 

[Dundon's]

Anybody care to enlighten the rest of us without the demo to short run through?

 

[theman]

Graphics:
same as pes10 but slightly refined

Sound:
no atmosphere as there was a barrage of noise and commentary was not in the demo

Commentary:
No commentary

Menu:
Slick and easy to use but I find the match plan ui very weird and confusing, I prefer it to be worded than pictures.

Shooting:
Much Better than pes 2010 as you can no longer score from impossible angles.

Passing:
most improved aspect of the game, the passing feels like having no ai assists as the ball always goes where you want it to.

Dribbling:
Too easy, I was playing it on top player and I still managed to whizz through whole team with puyol, i think its mainly konamis fault that they havent managed to make a balance between holding back and pressing.

Goalkeepers:
Much improved than pes2010 as now the keeper holds the ball more often than parrying it away.

Freekicks:
Ive never been an expert in FK's and for me its the same as pes2010 but with the power bar in the middle of the screen.

Penalties:
Same as pes2010 and I hate it, its virtually impossible to shoot to the side and getting the ball on target.

Skills:
At first I found it a fad and a gimmick but with a couple of games I have found it a very effective tool against the AI, but I still havent managed to learn how to link feints, maybe someone else can shed some light on this.
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Good points:
Awesome passing and shooting mechanics and the animations are awesome, I also find the game very fluid.

Bad points:
After being a pes player for years this iteration I found it too slow even at +2 speed, but Ive managed to get used to it.

The referees are fixed but with my experience a slide tackle to the front of the player ends in a foul even though I got the ball first.

Lastly I hate the cpu assisted tackling as its exposed a problem from pes2008 and that was it slides tackle for you without you telling it to so I lost many penalties due to this.

Hope I helped... Peace (Y)

 

[prabi]

Graphics:

superb as always , i think they look a nocth better this year, The pitch looks fab

Sound:

no commentry for the demo . BUT MUCH MUCH better atmosphere , fans cheer , on both sides , and it feels like it should. Makes pes 10 look so battered and old.

Commentary:

Menu:

as some have said ! sexy ! , they are very.

Shooting:

its now more challenging to shoot , you need timing space, and it just feels sooo satisfying taking a decent shot , a goal . even better , the ball now swerves and looks so much realistic than before. Loved every bit of it.

Passing:

brand new system , which takes getting use to , but its fantastic. once you get hold of it . you must measure each pass , and the learning curve is their to help you. I can make through passes using X , and the ball can be put anywhere,

Dribbling:

dribbling for some may be difficualt to pick up , but once done. Man you feel in complete control ! , feels great making a run with ribery or messi. Much more realistic.


Goalkeepers:

il be honest , i have not yet after 10 matches expercianced keeping problem, They goalies have been better animated , better saves. And look so much better than last years effort.

Freekicks:

much more easier , i remember i tapped sqaure with robben , and it was going in , but my brother put pique on the line and stopped it . Faboulous.

Penalties:

need to get the hang of them.

Skills:

IMPROVED , BETTER. and they do NOT break gameplay , i ran with messi did some step overs looked great , but in no way was their a balance issue. i dont about others though.
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Good points:


animations are improved
-its fluid
-the game speed can be changed , which is a gret aspect
- passing feels realistic
- shooting and scoring is satisfying.
-dribbling is better
- the level of freedom is astonishing.
-PES IS BACK .
-atmoshphere has improved.


Bad points:

theres room for improvemnt next year ,
id like to see more fluidity. and animations , espeically during celebrations which can be worked on .


FINAL NOTE

I PLAYED 5 SECS INTO THE DEMO IN MY FIRST GAME , and i began to emotional , the improvment for me was soo vast , it felt brilliant to play.

i can honestly say , after years of disapoitment for me . PES is back . and it feels great to play , so much fun . I took to FIFA last year, and this years PES is making me feel as if there is no need to play EA s game again.





and on a note .


who voted for its the same ? is that some sick joke lool .
pes 2010 feels like last gen .

 

[Ersin]

I just got my hands on the demo. When i entered the game it felt kinda different.
The menu,the formation panel, it's all different.It's the game we've been wanting for years Thank you konami! <3

 

[AgentZero]

these are encouraging reviews lads, repped respectively

 

[skickahit10]

Aaahhhhh....I can't wait to get my hands on the demo!!

 

[Vlassie1980]

Graphics:
In general the same as in PES 2010, some smooth adjustments. Nou Camp stadion looks more impressive then in previous version for some reason.

Sound:
Is ok, still some old chants from PES in the stone age but you will hardly notice it. Shooting on the bar makes a kind of weird noise.

Just missing the target gives some nice sound of the supporters.

Commentary:
No commentary in this demo, should be in general the same as in previous versions.

Menu:
Looks nice and neat, formation settings and substitutes is now clubbed in 1 screen. You will have to get a bit used to it but i think it as a great improvement.
The sound when pressing OK reminds me of International Superstar Soccer on SNES

Shooting:
I tend to shoot too hard and high right now, will have to get used to it.

Passing:
Completely different then before and a really good improvement. You have more control then ever before. Requires a while to get used too.

Dribbling:
Seems to go more fluid, i am not that much a type of a dribbler so can not tell yet.

Goalkeepers:
Better for sure

Freekicks:
Seems quite similar like last edition.

Penalties:
Have not yet had a penalty, seems to be the same as in PES2010 and that sucks.

Skills:
Can't tell yet
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Good points:
- New passing system
- Plays better

Bad points:
- Penalties seem to be the same

Tonite i will play again some matches and see if i can beat Barca @ Top Player with Bayern

 

[James_dean]

Overall the demo is getting some great response from people all over the world. Though
I´m seeing mixed feelings about the Top Player difficulty on a few forums. Some say
it´s to easy and others say it´s freaking hard.

 

[So Pro They Go Whoa]

Graphics: A bit better than PES2010, player models are a slight improvement

Sound: Not bad, no soundtrack on menu's yet so can't comment on choices of songs etc. Stadium sound is pretty much the same as last year but I don't notice it when I'm trying to win!

Commentary: None yet.

Menu: Clean and to the point, bit more of a next gen feel and easier to navigate

Shooting: Big improvement, the new power bar works well as you don't have to look at the bottom left of the screen anymore to check how much power is on a shot.

Passing: Best improvement out of them all. It's kinda semi-auto, it goes in the direction you want but not necessarily straight to the player, will take some practice to perfect

Dribbling: Different players have diff styles, Messi for example has a much diff dribble tech to say Xavi etc etc

Goalkeepers: Not a vast improvement, but certainly an improvement from last year.

Freekicks: Not had one yet

Penalties: Or a penalty

Skills: Not tested any yet
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Good points: Passing, choice of game speed (I use -1, -2 is too slow and 0 is a tad fast for how I like to play, +2 is promotes ping pong football!)

Bad points: The stupid trailer you can't skip at the end of a game, quit to the XMB before the 90 mins is up and reload the demo to save time

 

[john4]

Overall the demo is getting some great response from people all over the world. Though
I´m seeing mixed feelings about the Top Player difficulty on a few forums. Some say
it´s to easy and others say it´s freaking hard.

havent played the demo so i dont know. But imo its how people play the game that defines if top player is too easy or hard. If your shit its hard. If your good it should still be hard. If you dont mind constantly scoring crap goals and not playing proper football its easy. My feelings for hard difficulties in general on football games.

I like to play on hard so i lose a few games and such a season and i arent top of the table witha stupid GD every season. I tend to try and score good footballing goals. Dont get me wrong, if a tap in arrises i will take it. But i think the people who find these difficulties easy dont play football. They find a way to win and just keep doing it. Like running down the wing and tapping back for a tap in. Its exhilirating to play and watch such stuff :/ (sarcasm)

 

[BerbasNo1Fan]

havent played the demo so i dont know. But imo its how people play the game that defines if top player is too easy or hard. If your shit its hard. If your good it should still be hard. If you dont mind constantly scoring crap goals and not playing proper football its easy. My feelings for hard difficulties in general on football games.

I like to play on hard so i lose a few games and such a season and i arent top of the table witha stupid GD every season. I tend to try and score good footballing goals. Dont get me wrong, if a tap in arrises i will take it. But i think the people who find these difficulties easy dont play football. They find a way to win and just keep doing it. Like running down the wing and tapping back for a tap in. Its exhilirating to play and watch such stuff :/ (sarcasm)

This exactly. When i'm on the same side as my friend who has this approach he complains at me for attempting some build up play rather than just running down the wing then tapping it in

 

[Wibblesniff]

Top Player is an ok difficulty. Ive played 4 games on it so far, 1 with each team. I like it and it will be my difficulty setting of choice along with -1 Game Speed. I thought, Id get massacred by Barca on top player but held them to a 2-2 draw so Im not complaining

 

[Kevism]

Graphics: Bloody old plasma tv cant give me the best graphic that it should have

Sound: I gotta say its awful. But the sound when kicking the ball is awesome.

Commentary: None

Menu: Its the best one ive seen so far. More modern, colorful and professional.

Shooting: A very big improvement, it seems to be very realistic.

Passing:This is my most favorite thing about pes 2011. I totally love the passing. Crosses, Long Passes, Short Passes, they are all awesome. The ball physics in 2011 are soooo realistic.

Dribbling: Its fun to dribble. But its way too easy to dominate the defenders. I was able to dribble through 5 or 6 players and thats something they gotta work on.

Goalkeepers: Gks were improved but they still seem a bit dumb. Their reactions when facing 1 on 1 with the player of the opposite team are bit slow, and the animations sometimes arent really nice.

Freekicks:I didnt have many free kicks while playing the demo, but stimes long fks passing animations are the same and they look unrealistic for me.

Penalties:The worst thing i found about pes. I would prefer to have the penalties to be like Fifa WC.

Skills:Its too easy to do the link feints and you can do rainbow flick like 10 times constantly
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Good points: Good graphics, definitely better gameplay than last year, Better animations, Passing and shooting are brilliant.

Bad points: Awful penalty system, and i hate it when littlest touch can make a foul, it was a small touch and the referees just gave a free kick. The dribbling needs to be improved, it shouldnt be that easy to dribble through 5 or 6 players. Gks at times choose the wrong position and they should react faster than now. There are very very small little things that i hope to see those to be improved.


To be honest, i dont think it can beat Fifa 11 this year. Still have to wait for the demo, but according to what ive seen, people might say fifa 11 looks similar to fifa 10, they probably havent noticed the changes in shooting and passing in fifa 11, the ball seems to be heavier and gks are very good, the ball physics were improved, different players have different styles of dribbling. I'll have to wait till next week to make my final decision. I want the better game this year, not buying both like i did the last 3 years Pes 2011 is a fun game to play with, its fun with passing and shooting, however, they still need another improvement to have it as the best football game. Soz for my shitty english

 

[worm]

Looking and feeling is fine. But if it ain't doing it online.......then its horseshit.

 

[Dundon's]

Well the good news "so far" is that no one has voted the game to be worse than last years.

 

[caduroxbr]

Graphics:
9.0

Sound:

9.0

Commentary:

9.5

Menu:
10.0

Shooting:

7.0

Passing:

8.5

Dribbling:

9.0

Goalkeepers:

7.5

Freekicks:

7.0

Penalties:

6.0



Skills:
7.0

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Good points:
->Libertadores da América
-> Brazilian Commentarys
-> Brazilian Stadiums
-> More Teams
-> Master League Online
-> New Animations
-> Better Graphics
-> Edit Mode
-> IA

Bad points:[/QUOTE]

-> The force bar is desnecessary to all passes
-> Ping Pong passes
-> GK
-> Net design

 

[theman]

anyone with the demo noticed that sometimes the cpu slide tackles for you and also the cpu clears the ball when you dont want it to