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Gamespot

Miggy

Mr Lover Man
Like they say, it's a good game. Nothing special but still enjoyable.
Maybe you should play the game for yourself, then decide.
 

DunkTheJunk

Registered User
ok? why should you care about opinions of others.. because of a "reliable" review now you hate pes? ok.. thats not weird at all.
 

Miggy

Mr Lover Man
I can't quite believe that you have the game, played it, didn't make your mind up over it, so have allowed a internet website to do it for you.

You're quite special.
 

JohnBarnes?

Registered User
mIGGY, WTF MAN, BIT HARSH. I have decided to trade it in and buy fifa, hence I am really pissed off at the money that I will lose!
 

lexandro

Registered User
I have the game, its just, I feel that its very one dimensional!

Uh its football, its not supposed to be more than one dimensional. Thats like saying its repetative, its nonsensical.

EDIT* Just watched the review. The dudes a moron. Hes simply complaining about "lack of updated graphics". Since when did graphics make a game? And everyone who has ever played PES knows its always been the "un-official" football game, so not having the teams perfect is nothing. Frankly what more does he want? The gameplay of PES is the key factor.
 

Miggy

Mr Lover Man
mIGGY, WTF MAN, BIT HARSH. I have decided to trade it in and buy fifa, hence I am really pissed off at the money that I will lose!

I just don't understand why you've waited for this review to come out then decide to take the game back?

I don't know how long you've had it but I'm sure you could have taken it back to the shops and got a full refund if you weren't happy with it.
 

The Messiah

#1 Troll
I think this review is spot on. Good game but where's the evolution? Konami have run out of ideas & it's showing.
 

milly_willy

Registered User
The review was OK. It was right about somethings such as the same running animations and online. Like lexandro said everyone knows its un-official and we can just make all the teams. As for the champions league does he not know you can add other teams to the competition and you don't have to play with the 12 teams that are licensed under champions league?
 

S-D-P

Registered User
if you only use manual passing then the game isn't one dimensional. You have to be more patient and you cant just move the ball up the pitch without any effort. I don't understand why seabass is trying to make the game appeal to people who don't play the game rather than the hard core fans who have helped make the game what it is. I love the game but some aspects irritate me such as the ease of passing and this is why i only use manual. I cant stop playing the game though and i am really enjoying it. But honestly what goes through seabass's head, " i know i will try and make the game appeal to the 5% people who have never played pro and piss of its dedicated fans who are one of the reasons i am such a rich fuck". I feel able to criticise this years pro as where as last years i knew it was shit and convinced myself it wasn't for the first few months. This year i love the game and feel comfortable criticising aspects of it like i did with the older games. As far as reviews go IGN and Xbox world gave last years game good reviews so i only trust my own opinion predominantly
 

MC_Duds

Registered User
I have the game, its just, I feel that its very one dimensional!

John Barnes? If you are going to hold such negative opinions about PES I request that you void your contract and don't coach the reggae boyz!

I'm not a zealot for PES, I give Fifa a fair shot every year and although their game is flashier, it lacks the substance and replay value of PES.

*goes back to playing BAL*
 

TIGERS_FAN

Registered User
i think this guy is right in some cases
the champions league bit hes off the mark because you could say that about any licensed cup in a game
 

PSS

Registered User
I don't understand why seabass is trying to make the game appeal to people who don't play the game rather than the hard core fans who have helped make the game what it is.

Because if you only try to appeal to hardcore fans then your fanbase will never grow. You will always lose customers but never replace them.

It is always important to try to generate new custom as well as retain old fans.

You don't get anywhere in the industry by being a computer game purist and not thinking at all about turning a profit.

We all - hardcore and new fans alike - want to see PES with as many (or more) licenses as FIFA, but it isn't going to happen without increasing profit/sales.

The devs need to appeal to a whole spectrum of fans. You use the manual pass. New players will of course use the pass button. It's about preference, and the game needs to have enough options to give everyone the choice.

I would like the ML to be more immersive, more like a manager game, with real money, player unhappiness, demanding moves and new contracts, etc. The ability to move clubs and manage elsewhere. In future years perhaps BAL and ML could be merged so that when you're near the end of your career you're offered player-manager positions and when you eventually retire you're playing a normal ML.

None of these things would appeal to a new player, but as someone who has been playing for over a decade, I like the direction the game has come in and would like to see it go further. These changes would not alienate new fans, as they would not need to play this mode.

But making a change to something as fundamental as passing the ball would push away new fans, without whom the game would stall.

I've written more than I meant to, but I hope it makes sense :erm:
 

aoAaron

Registered User
the guy is absolutley correct. PES hasn't moved forward. its simply corrected what went wrong last year.

still i love PES.

one thing i dont like about fifa is the fact keepers are easy to beat 1o1 and u can sim matches :/
 

Phat_Tok

Registered User
Because if you only try to appeal to hardcore fans then your fanbase will never grow. You will always lose customers but never replace them.

It is always important to try to generate new custom as well as retain old fans.

You don't get anywhere in the industry by being a computer game purist and not thinking at all about turning a profit.

We all - hardcore and new fans alike - want to see PES with as many (or more) licenses as FIFA, but it isn't going to happen without increasing profit/sales.

The devs need to appeal to a whole spectrum of fans. You use the manual pass. New players will of course use the pass button. It's about preference, and the game needs to have enough options to give everyone the choice.

I would like the ML to be more immersive, more like a manager game, with real money, player unhappiness, demanding moves and new contracts, etc. The ability to move clubs and manage elsewhere. In future years perhaps BAL and ML could be merged so that when you're near the end of your career you're offered player-manager positions and when you eventually retire you're playing a normal ML.

None of these things would appeal to a new player, but as someone who has been playing for over a decade, I like the direction the game has come in and would like to see it go further. These changes would not alienate new fans, as they would not need to play this mode.

But making a change to something as fundamental as passing the ball would push away new fans, without whom the game would stall.

I've written more than I meant to, but I hope it makes sense :erm:

PSS,

You like the direction the game has gone in?? You kidding right? The realism of the the gameplay that made PRO great has completely vanished in the last 2 releases, forgetting the other numerous issues
(08 & 09).

Whether it's to do with trying to attract a new fanbase or whatever, the game has nosedived in quality. This isn't about licenses or graphics it's about the footballing experience that Pro once brought.

That is no longer the case, and for someone who says they have played the game for a decade i am astounded that you think this new direction is good thing for PRO.
 

Bite.Me

Registered User
This Is Ridiculous!!!!


They're Playing The Game In Regular Dificulty And Saying It's Easy....


Epic Fail Gamespot!!!
 

shaun7

Registered User
^They always fail when it comes down to fifa vs pes. They always give fifa as a better game when it clearly isn't.
 
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