Getting ur striker in front of the goal

[Du 1337]

Hi,

from the beginning I am having problems to score with my striker using a cross.

When I cross the ball with my winger:
- High through air (1 tap)
- Hard through air (double tap)
- Hard over ground (triple tap)

I can't seem to get my striker to get in position.

- I've tried to position him right in front of the goal in gameplan
- I've tried the strategy, attack through middle

But it won't work.

It is only possible when I am playing with my friend together, one crosses and one takes perfect position for any cross. Way easyer, but the CPU doesn't get this tactic what so ever.

Does anyone have a solution to set the tactic or position the striker in a way that this can be done while playing alone?

 

[bigberry]

Double tap plays a front post cross , it also can be used like a ' medium ' powered cross like if someones unmarked in the middle.

You also have to try and direct the cross using the d-pad or left analog stick. Dont just press cross and expect it to work. I used to have this problem

Also when crossing (including corners) you can hold R2 and the cross will be more lofted. This is useful if your players are not in the box yet to give them more time . Also if you have a tall player at the backpost you can pick him out nicely.

Dont forget the ' early cross' L1 circle' this puts more pace on the ball and in my experience is better for crosses from deeper range . Its useful when you notice a good forward run on the opposite flank.

 

[MLS]

Yeah I get the same problem as well. I have a really good tall striker with good heading ability and he's always placed outside the box for penalties..


Also the best thing to do is double cross it in the box.. I have tremendous success and many times the defender will get a own goal as it will ricochet off their oversized bodies.

 

[iamcanadianeh]

The attack down the middle strategy is not intended for setting up crosses, more the opposite IMO. Maybe try "opposite side attack." What is your attack-def level set to? Try more offensive if there aren't enough attackers in advanced positions.

Also, there are several keys to consider in your team make-up:

- Player crossing: pass accuracy
- player crossing: teamwork
- striker: teamwork
- striker: aggression
- striker: "jump"
- striker: agility (?)
- does the striker have "reaction" as a player card?
- Striker "offense" probably also comes into play as well as form.

In other words, it's not just about how tall he is

As for the crosses themselves, one way to place the cross which not a lot of people use is to not hold any direction at all when crossing. This will produce the most normal direction for the cross, i.e. in the middle of the box. This is usually what I do unless I spot someone int he open.

Also, ideally taking a peak at the radar to see where your striker is will help you decide how to direct the cross. Tough to do though.

Lastly, make sure you give your striker an opportunity to get in the box. If he is part of the build up play (as mine often is) then you need to delay your cross until he (or others) have an opportunity to get into position. Delaying too long is not ideal either, but you can't expect there to be someone in the box always if the player with the ball is ahead of the play. Sometimes stopping the attack and passing the ball back to your side back so that he can cross it is a good technique to create a nice delay without slowing the play down too much. In which case, the early cross is the best option as bigberry pointed out.

 

[Du 1337]

Thank you for all the info. I'll try the L1 cross and R2 cross.
Still: In 2010, the L1 crosses were briljant. Ur striker had perfect position when placing one of those. I don't see anything of that back in this game...

 

[iamcanadianeh]

Thank you for all the info. I'll try the L1 cross and R2 cross.
Still: In 2010, the L1 crosses were briljant. Ur striker had perfect position when placing one of those. I don't see anything of that back in this game...

How much of 2010 did you play?

They fixed the crosses to make them less easy with a patch eventually, but now I'm wondering if perhaps you didn't apply the patch or didn't stick with 2010 long enough to see the improved (no easy cross) version??? If that's what you're looking for, then I can't help you :no:

 

[Randiesel75]

@iamcanadianeh - good stuff, thanks for the details.

 

[Du 1337]

How much of 2010 did you play?

They fixed the crosses to make them less easy with a patch eventually, but now I'm wondering if perhaps you didn't apply the patch or didn't stick with 2010 long enough to see the improved (no easy cross) version??? If that's what you're looking for, then I can't help you :no:

I played 2010 from beginning till end and never experienced any problems with crossings. Not even after patches or what so ever.

I've have never seen Konami put any messeges in patches like: "We made the crosses harder so it's harder for u to score now..."

 

[iamcanadianeh]

I played 2010 from beginning till end and never experienced any problems with crossings. Not even after patches or what so ever.

I've have never seen Konami put any messeges in patches like: "We made the crosses harder so it's harder for u to score now..."

No, they don't advertise their fixes. It was blatantly obvious though, especially with early crosses which were goals every time before the patch and very rare after the patch.

Sorry, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page.

If it helps any, I find crossing more effective in PES 2011 than it was in 2010 post-patch. Cutbacks are almost impossibel now though, at least compared to 2010 post patch when they became the best way to score.

 

[Du 1337]

I really never experienced any difference in play when any 2010 patch came out, really. Might be something like placebo or something...

Anyway, the conclusion is that when ur playing with two players, u can position ur striker exactly like u want. That's almost impossible with single player and that makes it frustrated, knowing that spaces can be used more optimal...

 

[iamcanadianeh]

I really never experienced any difference in play when any 2010 patch came out, really. Might be something like placebo or something...

Anyway, the conclusion is that when ur playing with two players, u can position ur striker exactly like u want. That's almost impossible with single player and that makes it frustrated, knowing that spaces can be used more optimal...

I know that placebo is possible, but this was a huge change IMO!

However, from what I have seen and read, if you weren't playing top player both before and after, there actually was little or no change apparent because they left the easy headers more or less intact on the other difficulty levels. That's one of the reasons there is so much confusion to this day about this. But I agree... it would help if they would just say what they have changed.

Anyway, this is old news. Been discussed to death already and you're entitled to your opinion as long as you don't try to tell me I have a placebo effect. Maybe you have an anti-placebo??? Get the picture?