You have a point, most times I go back to single player but this time, I just got the key been playing just FIFA and decided to try PES since PS1 and a few games in PS2. currently playing on PC which could give users a better chance to cheat, ALthough I dont know if the system allows me to play with PS3 and Xbox 360 users. I think football is a wonderful game with a lot of possibilities but most people simply score with bugs, turning to the side and shooting cause the goalkeeper will never catch it, and there are they weird threw balls that are just impossible in real life, I have finally learnt how to combat people who play crap but sometimes I just want to play "actual football" met a couple cool people online played some cracking wonderful games too. I just need to learn the LB + RB cancel and goalkeeper positioning stuff or whatever its called. Since I use a PS3 controller its kinda not the same, some buttons are upside lol. My advise is when the game becomes crap, you take a break. No need breaking a sweat, we can only hope that some nice fans will make a real football game someday and hopefully it will be free like they do for animated series like Naruto. I think its all up to fans like us we can make the difference. Companies are in it for the money