Have you not heard the rumour yet? (Yes you have)
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Tech_Skill
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Ahhh, youv'e seen pes 2010, here's a tip.
Last time you saw pes 2010, did it have 360 movement?
hahahha.
Wait a min, now your gonna come back and tell me they just added a feature like that to the 70% build right??????
I really hope you are right.
In regards to your big news.... someone who actually played the game with the big features said.....
"And please don't hope for a Megaton. It's nice functions, but I guess that depends on how desperate you are.
kind regards".
How desperate are you???? well....that needs a whole different thread, it say pretty desperate, do i even need to go and ge the post of you telling me you miss me???
Oh yeah, you just contradicted yourself..AGAIN.
hahaha.
Now your saying 360 movement in PES is NOT A BIG DEAL.............HAHAHAHAHA.
Then if it aint, why the fuck have you spent the last week jizzing everywhere and making numerous failed guesses as to when its coming out?
Oh yeah, you just conradicted yourself again.
But then again, of course you dont think 360 movement is a big deal, you started at PES4 lmao, you just fresh meat, nothing more, nothing less.
But thanks for the predictions mystic meg, youve made so many now its hard to keep track.
So your now 100% sure the big news is out on monday?????
Not gamescom?
I thought you were 100% sure the news was coming out a week ago?
Queue: Proevofan88 to come out with the same old pre pubecent garbage with the occassional additions of
"I have a life, that why I hang on your everyword like some jilted bunny boiler"
"Im not talking to you anymore, actually I miss you tech, actually, I hate you, my hormones are going crazyyyy!!!"
"Waaaaaahh stop quoting me, I cant take anymore, bye, actually, abuse me one more time tech, just like my daddy used to, its all im good for."
Even the 2 dollar hookers on the corner will be shaking their head at your lack of self respect, at least they get paid to go that low.
proevofan88
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you know what tech? ill talk to you on wednesday ....that is unless your mistress BADDAR bans me bc his feelings have been hurt nd he decides to please you but not by going down on your pecker but by banning me.
keep in mind you will not hear the end of it nd u willl look very stupid wednesday
cheers tilll then
keep in mind you will not hear the end of it nd u willl look very stupid wednesday
cheers tilll then
Tech_Skill
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LMAO!
Youv'e changed story yet again... a few posts ago the news was out 2mrw, till you read some playtest details and changed your story again.
Now its wednesday
Before that it was gamescom
Before that it was a couple of fridays ago.......
Make up your mind, youve had aout 5 guesses now, more than enough, do me a favor, put your crystal balls away for a sec and understand, the following.
Since the news of a big secret was announced weeks ago, I have been open to the premise it could be 360, thats what the thread you are posting in is about now.
I have said its unlikely because
1) Konami said it wouldnt be in this year, but maybe in future versions
2) All builds that have been shown so far do not contain 360 movement as far as im aware
So LOGICALLY, one would assume there will be no 360, but you know what, maybe they will announce it soon. We shall see, thus unlike yourself im not 100% putting myself in a corner, in other words, for your sake, i hope your right.
lol.
Youv'e changed story yet again... a few posts ago the news was out 2mrw, till you read some playtest details and changed your story again.
Now its wednesday
Before that it was gamescom
Before that it was a couple of fridays ago.......
Make up your mind, youve had aout 5 guesses now, more than enough, do me a favor, put your crystal balls away for a sec and understand, the following.
Since the news of a big secret was announced weeks ago, I have been open to the premise it could be 360, thats what the thread you are posting in is about now.
I have said its unlikely because
1) Konami said it wouldnt be in this year, but maybe in future versions
2) All builds that have been shown so far do not contain 360 movement as far as im aware
So LOGICALLY, one would assume there will be no 360, but you know what, maybe they will announce it soon. We shall see, thus unlike yourself im not 100% putting myself in a corner, in other words, for your sake, i hope your right.
lol.
Pantilimon
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For the people who's wondering how 360 movement will work:
" Originally Posted by EA_GaryPaterson View Post
Hey all,
First let me introduce myself. I'm Gary Paterson (obviously), I'm from Scotland (Aberdeen supporter so REALLY bad week for me ) and I'm the Creative Director on FIFA10. I work with David, Mike, Christophe, Aaron, Santiago and Marcel to design the features of the game. I have been on FIFA since 07 on PS2 where I was gameplay producer and programmer, before joining the PS3/360 team for FIFA08 and 09 as lead gameplay designer/producer. Apologies for not being on here sooner, its been quite a hectic year as I'm sure you'll all understand.
I see that there has been quite a lot of traffic on here recently regarding 360 degree dribbling and I just want to send a quick post to let you all know how it works and why we chose to make it work the way that it does.
Let me begin by saying that 360 degree dribbling will have an affect on all dribble speeds: Jog, Skilled and Sprint, and will affect trapping. However, the effect on sprint is different than the others for reasons I'll explain in a moment.
Jogging
When jogging with the ball FIFA10 will give you full 360 degree control, when requesting a turn you will get exactly the angle you input on the left stick. One note on this however is that for turns less than 22.5 degrees (22.5 degrees may sound like an odd limit but this is basically 360 / 8 ) you will not get a turn immediately. Instead he will make the small adjustment the next time he catches up to the ball. This is because we don't want your player to constantly be playing a turn animation as this will affect the fluidity of the dribble and also affect pass responsiveness as we do not allow you to pass while you are about to touch the ball in a dribble turn.
The effect of this is that FIFA10 feels more fluid and you can now beat defenders, protect the ball and ultimately make plays that you could not before.
Skilled Dribbling
Like jogging, skilled dribble is fully 360 degree though the real power of the feature is really in the sideways movement.
Sprinting
The affect on sprinting is slightly different from jogging. The reason for this is that when sprinting your momentum dictates that you cannot adjust your body to perform the same turns that you can when jogging. In FIFA10 the range of turn that we allow when sprinting is ANY angle from 0 degrees to 22.5 degrees (plus 180), this is different from 09 as in that game we could only turn 0 or 22.5 left or 22.5 right.
Again, the reason we do not allow full 360 in sprinting is that it is just not physically possible to turn say 94 degrees and stay at sprint speed. Obviously if you did want to perform a 94 degree turn you could release the sprint button and the player would perform a 'Sprint to Jog' turn that would satisfy your pad angle request and turn 94 degrees or whatever angle you were requesting.
The result of this is that you can finely adjust your sprint direction in order to not lose so much momentum when turning and potentially get away from a defender without slowing down and getting tackled like you would in 09.
Hopefully I have explained that clearly, its difficult without diagrams
Summary
So in summary and as a comparison to FIFA09, these are the ranges of movement that you will see in the game:
Jogging 09: 8 directions (0, ±45, ±90, ±135, 180)
Jogging 10: 360 degrees
Skilled Dribble 09: N/A
Skilled Dribble 10: 360 degrees
Sprint 09: 4 directions (0, ±22.5, 180)
Sprint 10: 45 degrees (any angle from -22.5 to +22.5) and 180
We have shown the game now to quite a large group of people, mostly community and journalists and I have to say that 360 degree dribbling is one of the features that has stood out for the majority of people. The number of comments that I have heard about people 'not being able to go back to 09' due to the freedom and fluidity that this feature gives them is encouraging. This feature along with the numerous other changes that we have made have made FIFA10 what I believe to be a more fluid, more authentic and more fun game, I hope you will agree when you get the chance to play (fingers crossed).
Hopefully this post has addressed some of the concerns that you have. I'll try to post on here more often going forward.
Thanks for listening, and thanks for your continued support.
Gary"
" Originally Posted by EA_GaryPaterson View Post
Hey all,
First let me introduce myself. I'm Gary Paterson (obviously), I'm from Scotland (Aberdeen supporter so REALLY bad week for me ) and I'm the Creative Director on FIFA10. I work with David, Mike, Christophe, Aaron, Santiago and Marcel to design the features of the game. I have been on FIFA since 07 on PS2 where I was gameplay producer and programmer, before joining the PS3/360 team for FIFA08 and 09 as lead gameplay designer/producer. Apologies for not being on here sooner, its been quite a hectic year as I'm sure you'll all understand.
I see that there has been quite a lot of traffic on here recently regarding 360 degree dribbling and I just want to send a quick post to let you all know how it works and why we chose to make it work the way that it does.
Let me begin by saying that 360 degree dribbling will have an affect on all dribble speeds: Jog, Skilled and Sprint, and will affect trapping. However, the effect on sprint is different than the others for reasons I'll explain in a moment.
Jogging
When jogging with the ball FIFA10 will give you full 360 degree control, when requesting a turn you will get exactly the angle you input on the left stick. One note on this however is that for turns less than 22.5 degrees (22.5 degrees may sound like an odd limit but this is basically 360 / 8 ) you will not get a turn immediately. Instead he will make the small adjustment the next time he catches up to the ball. This is because we don't want your player to constantly be playing a turn animation as this will affect the fluidity of the dribble and also affect pass responsiveness as we do not allow you to pass while you are about to touch the ball in a dribble turn.
The effect of this is that FIFA10 feels more fluid and you can now beat defenders, protect the ball and ultimately make plays that you could not before.
Skilled Dribbling
Like jogging, skilled dribble is fully 360 degree though the real power of the feature is really in the sideways movement.
Sprinting
The affect on sprinting is slightly different from jogging. The reason for this is that when sprinting your momentum dictates that you cannot adjust your body to perform the same turns that you can when jogging. In FIFA10 the range of turn that we allow when sprinting is ANY angle from 0 degrees to 22.5 degrees (plus 180), this is different from 09 as in that game we could only turn 0 or 22.5 left or 22.5 right.
Again, the reason we do not allow full 360 in sprinting is that it is just not physically possible to turn say 94 degrees and stay at sprint speed. Obviously if you did want to perform a 94 degree turn you could release the sprint button and the player would perform a 'Sprint to Jog' turn that would satisfy your pad angle request and turn 94 degrees or whatever angle you were requesting.
The result of this is that you can finely adjust your sprint direction in order to not lose so much momentum when turning and potentially get away from a defender without slowing down and getting tackled like you would in 09.
Hopefully I have explained that clearly, its difficult without diagrams
Summary
So in summary and as a comparison to FIFA09, these are the ranges of movement that you will see in the game:
Jogging 09: 8 directions (0, ±45, ±90, ±135, 180)
Jogging 10: 360 degrees
Skilled Dribble 09: N/A
Skilled Dribble 10: 360 degrees
Sprint 09: 4 directions (0, ±22.5, 180)
Sprint 10: 45 degrees (any angle from -22.5 to +22.5) and 180
We have shown the game now to quite a large group of people, mostly community and journalists and I have to say that 360 degree dribbling is one of the features that has stood out for the majority of people. The number of comments that I have heard about people 'not being able to go back to 09' due to the freedom and fluidity that this feature gives them is encouraging. This feature along with the numerous other changes that we have made have made FIFA10 what I believe to be a more fluid, more authentic and more fun game, I hope you will agree when you get the chance to play (fingers crossed).
Hopefully this post has addressed some of the concerns that you have. I'll try to post on here more often going forward.
Thanks for listening, and thanks for your continued support.
Gary"
fred741
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Cheers to the people trying to keep this thread on-topic.
Tech_skill: if you were "playing ISS while proevofan88's mummy was having morning sickness", do you not think it's time to grow up a bit and let it go? That goes for the rest of you as well.
All of you lot having a slanging match, this is a forum for a video game. It is NOT to be used for abuse and personal insults. That's not just addressed to those who prefer FIFA - that's for everyone, whichever game they prefer.
Please, just grow up and stop the handbags - it's EMBARRASSING. If you can't get over yourselves, leave the forum, simple as that.
And where are the mods? This thread's been going nowhere for a while, and it's only thanks to a couple of users.
Tech_skill: if you were "playing ISS while proevofan88's mummy was having morning sickness", do you not think it's time to grow up a bit and let it go? That goes for the rest of you as well.
All of you lot having a slanging match, this is a forum for a video game. It is NOT to be used for abuse and personal insults. That's not just addressed to those who prefer FIFA - that's for everyone, whichever game they prefer.
Please, just grow up and stop the handbags - it's EMBARRASSING. If you can't get over yourselves, leave the forum, simple as that.
And where are the mods? This thread's been going nowhere for a while, and it's only thanks to a couple of users.
The Pro Evolouti
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Pro Evo fan... how certain are you that 360 dribbling is in?? give a percentage plz
btw, i know pes 4eva personally (same school) and he said he got banned because he was right on the money with the Endorphin being in Pes 2010.
btw, i know pes 4eva personally (same school) and he said he got banned because he was right on the money with the Endorphin being in Pes 2010.
fred741
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Alolo91: I don't think he "loves" FIFA - he seems willing to give both games a chance - but the posts have often been off-topic and in some cases pretty abusive from both sides. Anyone is entitled to express their opinion on this forum (whatever it may be) but it must be on-topic and NOT abusive. So to answer your question, no, preferring FIFA does not disqualify him from this forum, but some of the aforementioned stuff that's been going on is not acceptable, so let's get back to discussing the thread topic like adults and not five-year-olds.
Tech_Skill
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Shit, just missed out on some new screenshots that were leaked today, they should turn up here soon.
The rumours going round are saying, free passing (like fifa) could also be of the things implemented in the game.
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1705660#post1705660
One of the pics is here.
So to clarify, the rumours are saying 360 movement + free passing to be announced.
The rumours going round are saying, free passing (like fifa) could also be of the things implemented in the game.
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1705660#post1705660
One of the pics is here.
So to clarify, the rumours are saying 360 movement + free passing to be announced.
Rob21C_UK
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Have to say that Barcelona v Real Madrid pic on there looks very impressive, so at least graphically there's not much to complain about.
Tech_Skill
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Sorry, where's the link for this, i was just on evo web about 2 mins ago.
Actually, just seen it, if these are true, very good stuff, the edit nets thing is real nice too.
Alolo91
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Tech_Skill
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Yea, he has no source because he played the game himself, but to be honest, if its in there I'll fucking straight up say well done to Konami, In the past i didnt think they would be able to do it, and it is very odd how they seemed to have stuffed it in so late into development, last month they were telling people they werent going to do it.
To be honest im sick of the way this news comes out, its pathetic, you got the boss of pesfan saying there are no revolutions, then you got a play tester telling us not to expect big things, next min the game might have have 360, its a fucking joke, only happens with pes.
It will be interesting to see exactly how Konami's would work as opposed to fifa's especially seeing as fifa has 16 way when sprinting.
So yeah, its something the game needs as 8 directions is old and done.
proevofan88
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I assumed it would be monday but if wat tech said its true then the play testers cant talk bout feature till wednesday.
101 percent sure its in
how can u be so sure ?
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