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Help me score!!!!

alanjog

Registered User
hi guys,
playing in master league on professional and struggle to score goals. I Always have far more possession throughout the games but after 2 whole seasons i am still only winning games 1-0 or 1-1 as i regularly concede from corners or late in the game. Can anyone help with any tips! maybe i should try this or that????? any ideas?
 

u1tradt

Registered User
How are you taking your shots?

Are you getting in goal-scoring positions in the first place?

How do you like to attack the opposition?
 

Ali

It is happening again
Its all about luck mate. I started off scoring few goals, but they came eventually. It depends how good your players are too. If you're using the defaults, it's tough. But if you're using Liverpool.... well that's no excuse because you have Torres.

Are you creating lots of chances and just missing them? Or are you struggling to create?
 

DIECI

Registered User
shooting is scripted, even if you have great position you will most likely miss most of your chances.
 

alanjog

Registered User
im getting loads of possession and getting shooting chances but just missing them, using the shoot button. even miss 1on1's. most of my goals come through crossing and headers. i do have experience in the pes series but can get to grips, i either tap it and it flies over the bar and co there is a defender near me loops up in the air with no power.
 

u1tradt

Registered User
Shooting is contextual in this game so the quality of your shots will depend on the situation your player finds himself in. If he's even slightly tipped off balance his shots won't be as cleanly struck as they would be had he kept his balance.

Also one thing I've found is that in those situations when you're clean through on goal it's usually best to take your shot as soon as possible, I don't mean to say that you should always take your shots on your first touch but as soon as your player is in a situation where you would get a clean strike on goal, take it rather than going closer and giving the 'keeper a better chance of getting in a good position to block the shot.

I usually just take one touch when I'm clean through and on my second touch drive the ball hard and low into one of the corners and more often than not the shots go in because the 'keeper had less time to adjust himself to my position. But if you're too far away to do that (best to take the shots just outside the penalty box) then it's best to get a little closer, let the 'keeper come out a little and change your angle a little bit and shoot at the inside corner, these shots tend to be unstoppable if you execute the build-up perfectly. Just look at David Villa's first goal against Real Madrid last night and you would see what I mean about this kind of shot.

Overall though I'd say whenever you're in a position where you've got a good sight of goal and there's no pressure on your man, then make sure to get on his stronger foot and have a pop at goal. No point trying to walk the ball in the net, just have a go whenever you can; be single-minded.
 

alanjog

Registered User
thanks for the tip, thats really good advise. is there a way of guaranteeing a 'low shot'. Do you point the direction button away from goal or ever use r2 button when shooting? or even the pass button.
 

Ravex

Registered User
shooting is scripted, even if you have great position you will most likely miss most of your chances.

Incorrect.

You need to be in a good position, not be contested and prefferably have a good striker leading the charge.

With Torres, I score on 8/10 shots, as long as I'm a relatively good position.

You might also need to find your playstyle. Mine is a quick, offensive game, using pacey wingers and speedy strikers.

I signed Trezeguet early on, because I needed a good striker to complement Torres and his stats were off the charts. But he wasn't as fast as I wanted, so I had problems using him to his best ability.
 

alanjog

Registered User
i have quick winger and play a possesion game, getting it wide, i have andy carroll up front who i bought in my first season, he is great in the air, so most of my goals are headers. he misses a lot of chances on the deck though.
 

Ravex

Registered User
i have quick winger and play a possesion game, getting it wide, i have andy carroll up front who i bought in my first season, he is great in the air, so most of my goals are headers. he misses a lot of chances on the deck though.

Well, right there you have a problem - unless you're really good at it, which I'm sure some are, scoring from headers is hard and doesn't occur as often as from the ground.

Myself, I play a quick move-up-field game through the middle, feeding through balls to my lightning-quick strikers, who then only need to either slot it past the goalkeeper or wait in a runner from behind and hit an easy pass for an open goal.

The wingers generally cut in field, providing assists.

Again, you need to find your own preffered playstyle and work that in. I'd suggest you try and play more through balls on a quick defender though. If Carrol aint up to that task (wouldn't know his general stats, as I haven't played him), then you should try and sign one that can.
 

alanjog

Registered User
i have a young player called shizu or something liek that who is quick and i play him up front sometime but drop him in behind the striker. Maybe i should play him up alongside the big man so that he can run through on the throughballs. again, good advice, thanks,
 

u1tradt

Registered User
is there a way of guaranteeing a 'low shot'. Do you point the direction button away from goal or ever use r2 button when shooting? or even the pass button.

I don't know about guaranteeing a low shot but you can definitely increase your chances by tapping the shoot button as light as you can to get the least power in the shot (for accuracy) and point to either corner of the goal (depends where you are though, in certain positions you can put a little more power and still drive it low).

I haven't tried pointing away from goal and using R2 for placement will not work unless you're deep inside the penalty box. I've found that in this year's game, placing your shots with the R2/RT button pretty much takes away most of the power in the shot in exchange for accuracy and bend on the ball; you'd be lucky to get it in from long-range using the placement button.

And if you were to press the pass button after shooting, you would just cancel the shot.
 

S-D-P

Registered User
I have performed lower shots by knocking the ball slightly ahead to make sure you have at least some backlift, push the analog to aim roughly at the center of goal and apply half power depending on player and body position.

IGNORE what I said about half power, push the ball ahead slightly and tap the shoot button lightly with the other techniques I mentioned, half power doesn't work as well as I thought.
 

alanjog

Registered User
thanks for the advice guys, hopefully i will be banging them in, in no time, any more tips or advice is always welcome though.
 

Ali

It is happening again
Another thing to help with finishing.... if you get close to the keeper, the little "dink" shot works nicely :)square: then :R1: on ps3).

I haven't found a consistent way to finish though. Place shots are good when they actually work, sometimes the game refuses to accept your command though and blasts it anyway. I've seen someone mention using the manual pass before, yet to try it out myself though.
 

Hello Clitty

Registered User
What's with the aiming? Is it really random? Sometimes when I press up the ball goes up, the next time left, then slightly right, but never exactly where I want it. I've tried this under various conditions, i.e. player direction, foot, speed etc.
 

optimistic

Registered User
Well, right there you have a problem - unless you're really good at it, which I'm sure some are, scoring from headers is hard and doesn't occur as often as from the ground.

Myself, I play a quick move-up-field game through the middle, feeding through balls to my lightning-quick strikers, who then only need to either slot it past the goalkeeper or wait in a runner from behind and hit an easy pass for an open goal.

The wingers generally cut in field, providing assists.

Again, you need to find your own preffered playstyle and work that in. I'd suggest you try and play more through balls on a quick defender though. If Carrol aint up to that task (wouldn't know his general stats, as I haven't played him), then you should try and sign one that can.

hello

most of my goals are headers, i would say 90% of those goals are scored by my center forward who takes the passes from my smf and turned them into smashing heading goal straight to the net, it is simple and efficient, another 10% will be poacher's goal and lucky deflections, or getting a 1 on 1 from through passes, but that only happens occationally.

i dont think scoring on the ground is easier than in the air, everybody has different play style, my style is to let fast smf run along both wings towards bottom line and long pass to the front of the goal, then cf will try out their lucks and take care of the bussines. you might say thats just a pot of luck, right, in this game, your luck of scoring matters most of all. playing through balls to your strikers on the ground aslo needs good luck and of course excellent timing, it depends on who you play against, if you are againt juventus on top player level, then ceillini will not let you make accurate through passes easily, again you need to be fortunate to set up nice throuth passes and have a 1 on 1, even is 1 on 1, the random shooting in this game can sometimes really screw up a lot of golden opportunities, that happens way too often in this pes 2011 version, i often found my shots fly over, straight to goalies hands, wide, saving by keeper, they just dont go in the net. seldom i score on the ground 1 on 1 or long range shots, i used steven gerrad to score a goal from like 35 meters away on top player level, and i was just very lucky, wont be able to do the same again in the years to come.

anyway play through the middle field and make some nice throuth balls
to your quick cf will not be easy as well as scoring headers in the air when play against top class teams like spain, juventus, barcelona, even ROMA is a tough foe to beat, i mean if you use a average team to play against these teams on top player level and their forms are all red up in your first encouter with them, i doubt if there is anyone out there in the world who can have a comfortable win like 2:0 against those teams, just winning those games alone will be extremely hard and certainly prove you r the best pes player ever, you must be very lucky in many ways to win them after all, the thing is AI team players will likely script like hell and their through balls will be calculated and accurate to inches..... you know, they must score to show their class.

i must say if you played against those teams on those conditions before, you will know what i just blah blahed about, again your luck will be always a dominent facter for winning those tough games, most of my games against those teams are draws, 0:0 against roma me using everton, 1:1 against juventus me using man utd, well, man...., in that match those italians are so solid and rock like, you just cant get the ball off them, if you do, they ll snatch it back straight away, ianquenta runs with the throughed ball so fast right in front of my goal leaving the whole universe behind him, how that can be done by real people, well that all happened in that tough game, lucky me rooney scored the equalizer for me in 86' min after the ball was saved by buffon and deflected right to wayne rooney's path, that shot was originally fired by Barbertov' header, without luck, i ll lose. will remember the game for years. i lost 1:2 to almighty spain me using Germany, fernando torres runs through my defenders like fox chasing rabbits, there is no way i can stop him, well..., i can by a foul, a red card and a penalty, but thats too costly i reckon. torres scored a long range stunner in just 6' min from like 25 meters away, that just left me speechless. fortunately ozil scored a header for me in 68' mins, my heart was like pumping up to my throat, winning goals may still come to me at any remaining seconds. but villia scored a decisive header from their 4 th corner kick, well.... my fault to give away the corner in the first place, but my keeper saved a incoming shot from xavi and the ball was off the line, i just could not hold on to a honorable even, i lost eventually. but i wanted to take revenge, i played again with spain me using Germany for another 4 times, i did not manage to win, 3 draws and 1 lose, for the 5 th time i played against spain i finally won 1:0, i was satisfied with that very much, maybe thats the way how a tough game must be played. i dont know....

i play ground based attack or wing running attack for headers depending who i play against, for me both strategies requires luck and little tactics, as i said before, luck matters most in this game.

i am still very fond of playing this game though, the disc had been left in my ps3 for a month by now, haha........, just cant stop playing it.

alright, good luck to everyone
 

S-D-P

Registered User
What's with the aiming? Is it really random? Sometimes when I press up the ball goes up, the next time left, then slightly right, but never exactly where I want it. I've tried this under various conditions, i.e. player direction, foot, speed etc.

Know what you mean, however I find it very realistic after some more practice in training mode. I do think the shooting could make even more use of the analog, this is something fifa 11 has improved upon but the problem with this is part of the player individuality is lost.

Apart from the fact you don't see many dipping shots(unless you catch a volley a la waye ronney v newcastle) I do think this is the most realistic system we have had although at times I sense a bit of scripted animation with the shooting. The angle of player, body balance and angle you direct the analog in conjunction with this is crucial to aiming the shot in the desired direction. I was going through a stage of hitting shots straight at the keeper, with more practice I found the analog can open up some great angles, especially if your player is positioned correctly and able to hold off defensive pressure.
 

alanjog

Registered User
for me this is definitely the hardest year yet for scoring, unless you have a superstar up front everyone is going to miss some absolute sitters. If i were to make one change in the game it would be to make that easier, oh and fix the curser problem as its driving me mad when im defending.
 
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