Stormrider
Registered User
I'm starting to get bored of Pes 2010 already mainly because it's just not challenging anymore. This week I've been playing WE7 (Pes 3) on the PS2 and notice how much more realistic and challenging it is compared to this year's game. The CPU knows how to attack and how to defend. They actually score goals on you, which they have no clue on the PS3 games. The refs are perfect. The gameplay is pretty much what you would expect from a great football simulation. How did it actually go downhill from there? I think Konami should take a look back at WE7 and use it as inspiration when creating Pes 2011. Here are some things which I think would really improve single player gaming in Pes 2011.
1. The cpu should attack more. They just completely forgot how to score goals in the PS3 games. All they do is pass pass pass and when they finally attack they do really stupid things then end up taking a weak shot that results in an easy save. They also always shoot from stupid angles that usually miss when they should be crossing or squaring the ball or even trying to dribble for a better angle.
2. Why is Barcelona the easiest team to beat? Chelsea is also pretty easy. I always beat them 3-0 or 5-0 but have a harder time against the weaker teams. They are 2 of the hardest teams to beat in real life. A lot of times Barcelona will not play their star players and use Puyol at LB?? I checked before the match and Messi and Ibrahimovich are not injured but instead they choose to use Jonathan, Pedro, and Bojan which means easy game for me. Even when they do have all their star players they still don't put up much of a fight. Also why do they always take off star players (Messi) when they need a goal? That is really stupid. In real life if they need a goal Messi stays on unless injured. Also why did Messi only grab 8 goals in the season despite never being injured? He is the 2nd best player in the game and La Liga goalscoring leader in real life. The cpu should score a lot more with him. Fix these issues and maybe get rid of the bonehead that thought Barcelona is the easiest team to beat.
I only lose once or twice a season and that's mainly because the big teams always gets destroyed by me when they should put up a much better fight. In WE7 I chose Real Madrid vs Barcelona on 4 stars and I lost 3-0 mainly due to typical poor Madrid defending but Barca counter attacked well and they defended well. When attacking they usually chose the right options. I then played against Valencia and we drew 1-1. What happened to those days when the cpu was actually challenging? When pace was not so powerful and it actually took some skill to beat defenders?
3. More injuries. What is the point of putting injuries in the game when my players never get injured? Even the C rated players don't get injured, even when taking multiple tackles from behind. Once in a while a B rated player will get injured but only for 1 or 2 weeks. The A rated players never ever get injured even when taking vicious tackles from behind that would break anyone's legs. When I was playing WE7 yesterday, in my 2nd game of the night Zidane got injured 5min into the match and he has an A rating. Shocking! I also remember back then I was losing players to long term injuries, as long as 48 weeks! Not just that but there were injury details too like broken leg, hamstring, etc. How is the injury system worse now compared to back then? I just don't understand at all. Sometimes having an injury crisis like what Man United is going through right now, being forced to use your fringe players would make the season a lot more challenging. If the gamers don't like it they can always turn the injury setting off so what are you afraid of Konami?
4. More penalties, fouls, and bookings. In real life there are many penalties every week. In Pes if you get a penalty you feel you should go buy the lottery ticket. There are almost no fouls throughout the match. So much shocking challenges go unpunished. How is that realistic? It's normal for a GK to trip a player? In real life it's a penalty and yellow/red card 90% of the time. Just go take a look at WE7 and you'll see how the foul system should work. In WE7 I was getting penalties when I should, receiving fouls when I should, got booked for a standing tackle which I fully deserved. More fouls also led to more FK opportunities which means more FK goals, something that is also rare in Pes 2010. There should be more penalty and FK goals and less open play goals. Also I only average about 2 yellow cards per season in Pes 2010. In only 3 games on WE7 I grabbed more yellows than an entire season of Pes 2010.
Well there you have it. I hope someone from Konami can see this and fix all these problems for 2011. I want no excuses because everything I mentioned is in WE7 but not Pes 2010. That means its very possible to fix these problems. Graphics are excellent already so no need to work on them. Animations are ok but only work on them after gameplay. Start working on what really matters and improve the gameplay. Make Pes challenging again. Go play WE7 and try to realize why you were king back then. Use it as inspiration and bring Pes 2011 back to the throne.
At the moment I feel like scrapping Pes 2010 and editing WE7 again and play that full time. Sure the graphics are nice this year and I can play on my big screen. Sure there's not even enough teams for a full league in WE7 but you had the one thing right that really mattered and that's gameplay.
1. The cpu should attack more. They just completely forgot how to score goals in the PS3 games. All they do is pass pass pass and when they finally attack they do really stupid things then end up taking a weak shot that results in an easy save. They also always shoot from stupid angles that usually miss when they should be crossing or squaring the ball or even trying to dribble for a better angle.
2. Why is Barcelona the easiest team to beat? Chelsea is also pretty easy. I always beat them 3-0 or 5-0 but have a harder time against the weaker teams. They are 2 of the hardest teams to beat in real life. A lot of times Barcelona will not play their star players and use Puyol at LB?? I checked before the match and Messi and Ibrahimovich are not injured but instead they choose to use Jonathan, Pedro, and Bojan which means easy game for me. Even when they do have all their star players they still don't put up much of a fight. Also why do they always take off star players (Messi) when they need a goal? That is really stupid. In real life if they need a goal Messi stays on unless injured. Also why did Messi only grab 8 goals in the season despite never being injured? He is the 2nd best player in the game and La Liga goalscoring leader in real life. The cpu should score a lot more with him. Fix these issues and maybe get rid of the bonehead that thought Barcelona is the easiest team to beat.
I only lose once or twice a season and that's mainly because the big teams always gets destroyed by me when they should put up a much better fight. In WE7 I chose Real Madrid vs Barcelona on 4 stars and I lost 3-0 mainly due to typical poor Madrid defending but Barca counter attacked well and they defended well. When attacking they usually chose the right options. I then played against Valencia and we drew 1-1. What happened to those days when the cpu was actually challenging? When pace was not so powerful and it actually took some skill to beat defenders?
3. More injuries. What is the point of putting injuries in the game when my players never get injured? Even the C rated players don't get injured, even when taking multiple tackles from behind. Once in a while a B rated player will get injured but only for 1 or 2 weeks. The A rated players never ever get injured even when taking vicious tackles from behind that would break anyone's legs. When I was playing WE7 yesterday, in my 2nd game of the night Zidane got injured 5min into the match and he has an A rating. Shocking! I also remember back then I was losing players to long term injuries, as long as 48 weeks! Not just that but there were injury details too like broken leg, hamstring, etc. How is the injury system worse now compared to back then? I just don't understand at all. Sometimes having an injury crisis like what Man United is going through right now, being forced to use your fringe players would make the season a lot more challenging. If the gamers don't like it they can always turn the injury setting off so what are you afraid of Konami?
4. More penalties, fouls, and bookings. In real life there are many penalties every week. In Pes if you get a penalty you feel you should go buy the lottery ticket. There are almost no fouls throughout the match. So much shocking challenges go unpunished. How is that realistic? It's normal for a GK to trip a player? In real life it's a penalty and yellow/red card 90% of the time. Just go take a look at WE7 and you'll see how the foul system should work. In WE7 I was getting penalties when I should, receiving fouls when I should, got booked for a standing tackle which I fully deserved. More fouls also led to more FK opportunities which means more FK goals, something that is also rare in Pes 2010. There should be more penalty and FK goals and less open play goals. Also I only average about 2 yellow cards per season in Pes 2010. In only 3 games on WE7 I grabbed more yellows than an entire season of Pes 2010.
Well there you have it. I hope someone from Konami can see this and fix all these problems for 2011. I want no excuses because everything I mentioned is in WE7 but not Pes 2010. That means its very possible to fix these problems. Graphics are excellent already so no need to work on them. Animations are ok but only work on them after gameplay. Start working on what really matters and improve the gameplay. Make Pes challenging again. Go play WE7 and try to realize why you were king back then. Use it as inspiration and bring Pes 2011 back to the throne.
At the moment I feel like scrapping Pes 2010 and editing WE7 again and play that full time. Sure the graphics are nice this year and I can play on my big screen. Sure there's not even enough teams for a full league in WE7 but you had the one thing right that really mattered and that's gameplay.
