Ideas Compilation Post.

[Phatmann]

The weather conditions are something that Fifa 10 seems to have done well with. In the rain, the ball holds up a lot more than on a dry pitch, which can cause a lot of problems, especially if your defender is slow and the opposing attacker is fast. The rain doesn't change though, so it stays at the same level of rain and the pitch stays at the same wetness throughout the match. Wasn't there an old game - not sure if it was fifa or PES - where there was the occasional clap of thunder and flash of lightning? There is snow in fifa and it varies between light and heavy but online they don't change the ball so you're playing with a white ball on snow. :faceplm:

One thing that's annoyed me about the latest PES is that it's borrowed some of the worst parts from Fifa, such as the overall stat. It was completely unnecessary.

 

[Joey Tribbiani]

One thing that's annoyed me about the latest PES is that it's borrowed some of the worst parts from Fifa, such as the overall stat. It was completely unnecessary.

Definatley. The old hexagon was a lot better and made it easier to see what positions players were suited to.

Say for example you had Essien and Lampard, and could only fit one into your team at DMF, then you'd choose the player with better strength, short passing and defending attributes. Which in this case is Essien. Now, unless you want to spend ages trawling through each players individual stats, you just choose the player with the higher overall who may not be best suited to the particular role you wat him to play.

 

[tinksboy]

we want to be able to edit everything to its full extent on PS3!!! and i mean everything !!!!!!

INCLUDING
socks, shorts, boots, balls, stadiums (Build your own, edit), goal nets, fans, managers, the bench, training kits, turf designs, referees, home menu screen backgrounds, adboards, keeper gloves, ability to edit shoulders on shirts etc etc.

I believe that most people would enjoy this feature as all pes players could customise the game to suit themselves and to shape the game around how they want it to look like and feel

 

[tinksboy]

A lot of what i'm about to write may have been covered, but it's worth re-itterating so here goes:

Graphics

The current graphics for players and the referee are pretty solid - not awe inspiring, but solid, and as PES fans, we all know gameplay is more important so Konami don't need to spend as much time on this area of the game as others. Having said that, the crowd and stadiums need to be more detailed. For example, there shouldn't be 70,000 people at Old Trafford wearing the exact same shirt.

Animations

This is a key point in my mind. Goalkeeper animations in particular seem to be not quite right. For example when you have a screaming 30 yard shot with Gerrard, and the keeper just casually moves to the side and catches it. Finger tip saves should be more realistically modelled - the ball shouldn't move at a right-angle if the keeper just touches it with his finger tips.

The Little Things

- Get rid of the darned invisible barriers on throw ins, and even on free kicks. There could be perhaps a circle super imposed onto the pitch to show a 10 yards radius with the player having the option to risk getting booked by moving closer. Obviously the strictness of the ref could play a part in whether the player receives a card or not.

- The noise of the crowd, is especially important. It's the biggest cliche in football, but Anfield on a European night should feel special. The commentators should comment on it saying stuff like 'Just listen to the Kop tonight - they're up for it' etc. Also, playing a dead rubber midweek clash between Bolton and Fulham should feel that way. There should be empty seats, which also the commentators comment on. 'Oh it's a real problem for them, and one the chairman should be monitoring closely, perhaps the price of tickets has something to do with it? What do you think Mark?' 'Errrrm, well... You knerr...' etc

- More stadiums, whether they are unlicensed or not. PS2 has more, why not across platforms? Make more smaller, generic grounds up. FIFA has Ivy Lane which looks like a lot of grounds in the Premiership, why can't PES?

- Injuries should be more realistic I feel. Say Tomas Gravesen goes in hard/2 footed on C.Ronaldo, then Ronaldo should be rolling around with a broken leg which you should be able to see, like if the bone has come through the skin or what.

- Make teams feel more individual/unique. Stoke should not play it around casually ont the halfway line for 40 passes like Arsenal. Italian teams should sit back and play it slowly/counter attack. Again this should be commented on. "Well you've got to admire the technical brilliance of this Roma side, but as spectacle it's far from great".

- Presentation could be improved massively. It should feel like i'm watching the game on ITV/BBC. For example the scores and time should be in a solid box in the top of one corner, like it currently is in UCL mode. Perhaps a deal could be done with ESPN allowing them to put 'ESPN live' in a corner? On FIFA 2000 you had Gary Lineker introduce the commentary team - that was slick and added to the presentation. When the teams walk out the camera should follow a key player from each team and comments should be made as to how they will impact on the game. Head to heads even - Vidic v Torres - "Well in the last 2/3 meetings Torres has given Vidic real problems". League table brought up at the end of the game. If it's the final day and each result counts, scores could be brought up midway through the match with the commentators explaining the different permeatations.

- Transfers should be more realistic. For example in my current ML season on PES 10, i'm in season 4 and Real Madrid have bought every Barca player apart from Valdes and Henry, and have re-sold Ronaldo and RVN back to Man Utd. It's crazy!

- Weather conditions - Snow! Yellow balls should be used automatically -even FIFA 99 had that! It shouldn't just be either 'rainy, or sunny' aswell. Conditions should be relevant to the time of the season and the location of the match. If it's in England the weather should change at the drop of a hat from sunny to cloudy. The physics of the ball should change. If it's raining then the ball should skid away from players, but if it hammers it down for 90 minutes, then by the end of the game the ball should be getting stuck in puddles, players stamina should diminish faster.

- And I almost forgot the most important one - bring back the cut scenes of you winning the trophy!

There are so many things that can be improved! I'll give someone else a chance now.

Awesome ideas mate plus the one below urs about the ball skidding off the surface and holding up etc all NEED to be included next game

 

[requiem7]

we want to be able to edit everything to its full extent on PS3!!! and i mean everything !!!!!!

INCLUDING
socks, shorts, boots, balls, stadiums (Build your own, edit), goal nets, fans, managers, the bench, training kits, turf designs, referees, home menu screen backgrounds, adboards, keeper gloves, ability to edit shoulders on shirts etc etc.

I believe that most people would enjoy this feature as all pes players could customise the game to suit themselves and to shape the game around how they want it to look like and feel

That's what I have been thinking of lately. A fully in depth editor. An ability to modify and share you're creations. Options to insert you're own chants for the fans.

 

[Warriors786]

In the past pro evo's, in master leagues you could see your past seasons statistics like how many goals you scored and how many goals your players scored in that season and so on, they took it out why? That was a good feature, put it back in. There should be a statistic where you can see how many clean sheets your goalkeeper has kept.

In the master league mode, when you win the league they should make you feel more of a champion, because in the start of every season you feel like you haven't won anything. Make the transfers more realistic; make the prices for the players more accurate. When you loan a player you should have the power to get them back when you want. Show pictures of your new transfers holding the shirt and in a press conference. When you sign sponsorship deals, the sponsor should be on your kit. When playing matches, you should be able to see players warming up on the touchline. You should be able to put your players into reserve matches. EG coming back from long term injury, new young signings to gain experience. You receive reports on how well they did. When you buy players on loan, you should be able to make the loan permanent.
Update the Become a legend mode because it’s getting old, add loads more features.

 

[Olger_k]

The Albanian national team also! :erm:

 

[Jenks89]

The new Pro Evo should avoid trying to be like Fifa!
Pro Evo needs to concentrate on how the game FEELS rather than what it looks like, or on random new game modes that essentially most people will ignore.

The reason people play pro evo is because of how different it is to Fifa. Of course Fifa has aspects of gameplay which are very good, but for me, Fifa is like watching a football match rather than being involved and playing one.

Which isn't the case with Pro Evo has it has more pace, and the shooting is much better.
Fifa has goals that look nice and float in, but you don't get a FEEL of the shot as you do with Pro Evo. PES6 shooting was amazing, although sometimes you felt the keeper should of saved it, you still got a sense of pride because of how the shot felt AND looked.

The new penalty system in PES2010 is terrible, it's always disappointing going to penalties but now its even more so. It's fine trying to make scoring penalties more reliant on skill rather than if you choose the right place to put the ball, but PES2010 got this horribly wrong. You had no FEEL about if the penalty was on target or not.

The response of players needs to be improved, when a player first receives the ball there should not be any delay or extra touch between pressing pass and the player passing.

The new interface was very unwelcome.
It was a lot more straightforward comparing players, changing formation and changing player positions wth the old system.

How manual pass and tricks are performed need to be rethought.
The right analogue stick being used for manual is nice, but could work just as well as holding a shoulder button and pass. The current way of performing tricks isn't simple enough, most people soon realise it isn't worth the effort and so not many people perform tricks anymore. Having this assigned back to the right analogue stick, like it was, will bring back that dimension to playing a match.

More customisation is always welcome, the more choice the better!

Choosing Refs!
While this is a bit of a gimmick, in PES6 choosing refs would influence how harsh they would be in response to fouls, having a choice between a incredibly harsh ref, a unbelievably leinient ref, and a few in between, would change the pace of the game. Having a random ref each match would add a bit more variety between matches.

If there's more variety between matches, with each one not feeling exactly the same, then it makes players less likely to get bored and put the controller down after only a few games.

Classic Players!
Unlocking classic players is always good, but this year certain classic players weren't included! I know Pro Evo don't have the license for classic players and use false names for players modelled on classic players, but where were the players modelled on Bobby Moore, Pele, Cruyff?

International Teams
Should have bigger squads!

Goalkeepers need to made better.
It is realistic for goalkeepers to make mistakes, but on the last 2 versions of PES the mistakes seem to happen randomly, for example a goalkeeper would put a cross into his own net even though it would have been more realistic for him to punch it away from goal.
Some goalkeeper saves need to be changed. A finger tip save for a soft shot and a hard shot shouldn't take the same amount of time to go out for a corner. Keepers should look strained to save/catch a powerful shot, not casual.

Online should have better matchmaking, to reduce the likelihood of having a game where players have a bad connection.

 

[Gbiel]

Oh where should i start...

. When I press the Pass Button, i REALLY want the player to pass the ball... I'm tired of takin' goals cuz then player didn't passed the ball in the right time...

. When i pess the "triangle button" (the deep pass) i wanna a "deep pass" that cut trough the defense...

. And in a "deep pass", Why the players run to the "X"!?!? Sometimes the ball are on their side and still they run to where the ball will stop... Unbelievable! Why cant the player take the ball before!?!?? Why!?!?!

. U know, i don't know but here in Brasil, we don't play with such "air balls"... When a ball comes in our chests we can dominate then u know, without its gone flyin' trhough the sky...
- Why is so hard to dominate a ball? I never see a soccer game on TV that the players have so dificulty in dominating a ball... I dunno what game u are watchin to make this game, but i suggest u guys stop and look some REAL game...

. Cards, Penalties and Fouls... This all exist in a REAL soccer game u know guys. When a player dive in others legs... FOUL!!! If its too harsh, CARD!!!! And if it is inside box... PENALTY...!!!!!!!!!! What game are u based on guys??? Soccer it isn't!

. Dunno what u think a Soccer game was but, teh EASIEST think is play at first shoot, u don't need to have a special hability to it u know? If i Press a button BEFORE THE BALL TOUCHS MY PLAYER i want that he makes a first touch play... Why it is so hard to understand...

This game is way better than 08 and 09, but theres WAY long too go before gettin' to the BOOM that was the past games (From SNES to PS2)...

Thanks for listening and sorry for the temper, but i lose the UEFA finals¨game because of all this S*$% that i mention here...

 

[reyhan37]

Improvements for PES 2011

I agree with many of the previous comments.

PES needs a massive upgrade to the atmosphere or "feel" of the game. Home crowd goes nuts if winning goal or equalizing goal is scored in the last ten minutes. Cup finals should have a louder audience that reacts more to what is happening on the pitch. Home crowd boos if ref decisions go against them. If a certain player commits lots of fouls, the other team will get in his face almost causing a fight. :realmad: Then the ref will call the two players involved and both team captains to sort it out before making the final decision. Inclusion of derbies would be amazing! Both home and away fans are extra lively: Arsenal v Tottenham, Man Utd v Man City, Liverpool v Everton, El Classico, Milan v Inter, Juventus v Torino, Marseille v PSG, Rangers v Celtic, Feyenoord v Ajax, etc. Difference in style between leagues. EPL teams play at a faster pace, refs allow more fouls, fans chant more. La Liga teams play lots of little passes, technical attacking football, and refs call every little foul. Serie A teams more willing to play for 1-nil, tight defenses, great counterattacks, fans are more rowdy will throw garbage/light fires. :w00t Champions Lg/Europe Cup refs are more balanced. If your team gets knocked out of a quarter final, semifinal, or final in penalty shootout you will see some team members upset/crying. :crymore:

In terms of gameplay, there should be more control at corners and set pieces. FIFA's new system is amazing. You should be able to create set piece situations in the edit team mode. When defending set pieces you can put players at the far and near post. Choose between a zone/or man mark defense. On offensive set pieces center backs/bigger players get into the box while smaller players may drop back. If needed in the last minute, everyone including the goal keeper can get into the box. For corners and indirect free kicks, the kicker should be able to choose exactly which player he's aiming for/surgical passing--> maybe holding a shoulder button brings up a button over every player's head, like passing in the Madden football games. During regular play players who have both long pass accuracy and short pass accuracy exceeding 85 can also use surgical passing. Since not all players can be seen on screen, the respective buttons would appear on the radar, with a preference to the player who can best make a run toward goal, then the most open players with no defenders closing them down.

Master league development could be more realistic. Only stats that should eventually decrease with age is acceleration first, then top speed, then jump, and last stamina. No player or human being continues to get faster after 26. Attack ,defense, mentality and team work should steadily increase as players get older eventually tapering off around 28-32. All other stats should never decrease, just taper off so they don't increase any more. Shot power and long pass speed should be combined into one stat. It makes no sense that a player with shot power of 90+ has a long pass speed of less than 80.

 

[reyhan37]

players stats to be more accurate, not just high for big teams because there are some very good players that stats seem to be very low just because they are not one of the big teams...

I'm glad someone said something! Just because Barca won everything last year doesn't make their bench warmers better than the starting eleven of Atletico Madrid. Konami should use the Castrol rankings as a reference. Do you know who Andrey Arshavin is!? Abou Diaby is currently ranked 30th! He better not be crap in PES 2011.

 

[Darth0r]

Online:

- Ranked match: able to pick your team before match AND an option enable "team match" (ie: to avoid big teams if you are playing with med or low teams, etc).

- Disconnection: always save the last result before disconnection or, at least, save score after first half is finished.

- Tournaments: Make morning tournaments (Euro time). Also, make skill-match tournaments, specially for those not being pros and want to compete.

Thanks!

 

[Antonyc1977]

Please re-introduce the option for the Tilted Camera Angles - as it was in PS2 Versions.

Also, please can you make it so I get a couple of penalties a season and more Free Kicks?

Also, remove the "Skip Match" option. Otherwise, I'm quite happy.

 

[Darth0r]

Also, remove the "Skip Match" option. Otherwise, I'm quite happy.

"Skip match" was one of the most desirable so no, keep it

 

[tykjen]

I want training challenges back with achievements etc. Penalties sux in pes2010, especially with no way to train on it. jeez konami, fix up the bad act for 2011.

 

[pela]

1. How long have you been playing PES?

all my life, i've played all the series of ISS, WE and PES since 1994

2. What are the aspects that you like most about PES?

mostly everything

3. What are the aspects that you don’t like about PES?

3 things... to make it better.

- i would like to be able of changing teams during the Master League .....maybe you could merge ML and BAL, and when you start it, choose if you want to be the player, the coach or the president of the team.... if you choose president it could be like the actual ML, if you choose coach,,, you could be bought by other teams, and if you choose player well it would be like BAL.

- i would love to see an option or switch, on the Become a Legend mode, to choose if you want to play just with your player or use the whole squad in the matches

- just make it more real, anything would be nice, for example, include more real life stats on the ML and BAL, a mean like facts, How many champions league cups do every team have in the real life, put it on the game and keep adding cups while your winning on the ML. top strikers stats from real life, every player's appearances on champions league and top scorers and keep adding while your playing, i mean just make it more like real life, more real narrations on the commentarys, make more stadiums, more expresions on the players faces, etc, anything would be nice.



THANKS

ps. i could mention a lot of other things to make it better, like A.I. deffects, another hardness level, more slots to crate teams, second divisions of each league, etc etc.... but im sure your working on that and i care more of the first 3 points i mentioned

 

[Nemisiskidd]

1) how long have u been plyin pes?
since iss but really got into it at pes 3

2) what are your aspects you most like of PES?
mostly everythinglike the graphics and the fluid gameplay

3) what wud u like 2 c improved?
might sound silly but i wud lyk edit boot bak e.g. nike mercurial u can change da base colour and accent then detail like the nike swoosh and sole.. i think that wud b kl also edit stadium wud b 2 complex so y dnt konami make fake replicas of the stadiums e.g. stamford bridge but change name so there is no copyright infridgement (although in edit mode you can revert the name 2 real).
this may not apply 2 more simple pes players but i want 2 c a betta skill system BRING BAK DA TRICK STICK, make more outrageous tricks e.g. fifa trick system with flicks and feints although i dnt like 2 really compare pes 2 fifa.
to make more penalties b given away maybe in cup finals 2 make it intense and decision making and make Europa league a standalone mode and as i here the south american equivalent 2 the champions league is gnna b in pes 2011 so make that standalone aswell to show managers like in the new fifa world cup game and therefore be able to edit the manager so u wud c arsen wenger on the touchline if arsenal is 1 nil down.there r obviously quite a few other little probs bout pes 2010 but i definetly want better match atmosphere like the world cup is electric that sort of atmosphere in pes wud be more realistic in big games and contrasts in smaller games. also more smaller low budget stadiums bcoz i c D2 teams in master leauge plyin in Stadio olimpico and this jus seems stupid.. i also wud lyk 2 comment on celebrations bcoz they seem a bit low key i scor in the last minit winner and the player jus jogs 2 the touch line clappin his hands this seems really stupid when the rest of the team jus run around my player celebration shud b more theatrical and more team orientated to avoid the team runnin around the scorer with more cinematic view for the celebration.
referees shud be able to have editable kits for each leauge and also more realistic with wrong desicions and commentators commenting on the decisons as some may b wrong and other ways of gettin red cards apart from slide tackles from behind and not always go 2 dish out a red card.
less robotic runnin more free flowin
better ai from the computer and team mates around
a little faster runnin speed e.g.Lampard doesnt dribble often but he is way 2 slow in the game
unlimited uniform and face data slots it is down to the ps3/xbox harddrive
more ralistic injuries e.g. head injuries
weather effect players e.g. heat and pitch conditions
Jostling for the ball and barging
EDIT MODE: pre-set faces from from previous pes e.g. pes 2010 unlock ronaldo (o fenomeno) instead of crappy scanned face use preset face
alternative kit
able to use preset faces and hair
able to change league and cup logos and put them on the arms of shirts
logos and badges on shorts and socks
more detailed kits e.g. stitching
Under armour(under shirt) e.g. rooney wears in the winter
goggles 4 wen u unlock edgar davids or want 2 use them
more vital commentating e.g. last minute winners
more of a roar fro the crowd wen you score
Edit cup
show cup final trophy ceremony agen not only in the champions league

MASTER LEAGUE/Become an leagend
more interaction with the press and make decisions that may effect your team for the good or the bad able to hire more staff
interviews
able to play training
obstacles that you have to work your way around in BAL
more intense drama with rivalries and races to the top 4 or the 1st place
overall more intense drama
able to use sponserships in master leauge around the stadium and kits
get sponsors in becom a legend
more effective tactics that can change a whole game
varied free kicks and maybe a new system
more spaces for created teams and unlimited emblem spaces
match build up intensity e.g. derbies
show fans reactions and they are in team kits
more than 64 track added to KONAMI_PES for team chants if possible

and i think thats about it if ne 1 wants 2 add or comment on something then feel free bcoz som points may not be important and u have got a betta point

 

[kn23m]

I want back formation system which was in PES 2009 and all the previous PES - if I should be honest - I don't understand why they changed it...

It was so easy - I was able to choose formation what I wanted in few seconds, but now I need to edit majority of positions to get what I want...

 

[whitefrog]

1) Goal keepers ALWAYS win aerial attacks or low crosses into the box.

2) I would also like to see the old 'Copy Base Player' back. So when i create a new team I can build from an existing character rather than have to go through all the facial features and attributes from scratch.

3) PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ditch that AI programming that reduces the skill of my players (or increases the opponents) when i am ahead. No way would Messi miss an open goal or Torres spoon a shot miles off target!

 

[little-messi9]

celebration style will be good just like fifa
more tricks
improvie the edit mode
and improve the be a pro style
all the others said everything