Ideas Compilation Post.

[mikewatts]

Few things absolutely wreck the game, simply:

- Ai is stupid. absolutely stupid. attacking they are sterile and boring, defending its like their aim is to score own goals.

- the strategy of literally running down the wings and triple tapping B should not be a strategy in itself, especially when you are hoping mostly for an own goal to occur. There is far too much emphasis placed upon running down the wing and crossing anyway in this game, given the shooting system being so flawed.

- Quick players should be quick. It is so frustrating getting caught up by some slow terrible defender even off the ball.

- Shooting is just terrible - random, incomprehensible and frustrating. you lightly tap shoot, it sales over the bar - from any position. or it will crawl along the ground, or it will sale top corner. Konami, take a second and make the power bar actually mean something.

So many things were great about previous versions that have gotten rid of, such as the shooting.

- Penalties - just make it simple for god's sake - 8 directions, press shoot to hit it. none of this match deciding, terrible missess/saves/angles during the match.

- referees, just jog on. terrible decision after terrible decision. no consistency.

- I'd like the unlocking points system to be a bit kinder - like there are so many extras on the current game (funny heads etc) that no one is going to unlock as the points are better used on unlocking teams/players. Make it a separate points system or something, and make it easier to amount points.

all i have right now..

also, replays - we dont need a 40 second look back - just let us see the shot. or last 5 seconds. Or let us control the replays.

also, first touch is sluggish and annoyingly bad from even the best players.

also throw ins - terrible.

 

[Spooky_Goth]

I agree with your point on the AI, Its far too easy to beat with simple strategy, maybe a higher difficulty level could fix this?

I agree that refs make some bad calls...I think Konami have already said their looking into the whole foul/tackle area for smoother gameplay in future installments...hopefully this will rub off on how the refs judge the game.

Shooting feels no different to me than past PES games...

You want quick players to be quicker? How much faster do players like Messi and Arshavin need to be? They have more than enough pace to beat defenders/pull away from them

The rest of the points would cause the PES series to regress! 5 second reply? whats the point in even having one then? Also the penalty system (although I found it difficult at first) is actually a miles better improvement because it actually takes skill and you have to think about where to place the ball. Perhaps it should be made easier for the keeper to save the ball but that's about it.

How could throw ins be improved more? Now you can control exactly how far/where you throw with ANY player (in past games you needed long throw ability to throw the ball far without delay)

Free kicks on the other hand are a general lottery (I think I've scored about 3 in total since I bought the game in the first week of its release and that's coming from someone who plays almost daily)

In my opinion if you want better gameplay from PES then work needs to be done around player movement. I'd like to see players fight and jostle for the ball, ride though some of the weaker tackles, have more realistic collisions.

 

[Spooky_Goth]

Also I forgot to mention that I'm sick of seeing players waddling around the pitch instead of sprinting, (Yes Konami the running mechanic needs to be reviewed) also I find that the ball sometimes magically glides to a players feet after sending in a through ball that's being heavily contested. Don't get me wrong, PES 2011 is a giant return to form, but PES 2012 needs to be 2011 (as it should have been e.g without all the bad ref calls, poor AI) and new innovative features that are nailed FIRST TIME ROUND. Even if it means releasing much later than Fifa its better to do that and produce an undisputed better game.

 

[The Eristic]

Konami, in Master League, let us negotiate with players based on the projected size of our squad at the opening of the next transfer window, not based on current size. If my squad is maxed out, but I've managed to sell five players who will leave once the forthcoming window opens, I am not allowed bid for replacements until the said window arrives and the sold players are removed from my squad. I wind up missing out on important targets every single season due to being forced to just wait and watch my opposition snag almost every player on my scout list! It's a serious problem!

Also, let us field multiple offers for our players simultaneously, like in the old days, and don't stretch the process with redundant features. When there are several teams in contact, there is no reason why I should have to wait weeks, even months to view a single offer, reject it, then be informed the next half-week that "negotiations have broken down" (no kidding, I made them break down! Did you really need to use an entire time unit to tell me what I did a button click or two previously?), which nullifies any other transfer activity regarding that player for that half-week. If I reject an offer, it should be discarded the instant I do so, allowing other offers to be considered as soon as I progress the time.

 

[Masato]

These are some of the points I've been concerned with over my copy of PES 2011:

• The game needs a collision engine just like FIFA 12 has, I was watching
  (This is the video), the realism I've seen there is amazing, and then I looked at PES back in frustration, seeing as we see the same pre-recorded animations everytime we're fouled/we make a foul.
• Injuries, better animation, and add random injuries every so often, but don't make them just stay there and making the same knee-grabbing animation, watch another video: (Here, starting at approximately 7:34)
• More camera options, the current TV one isn't real at all, the normal TV has some close ups to the players fighting for the ball either too far away in the field or too close to the camera.
• More weather conditions, such as snow and thunderstorm, heavy rain or light rain, cloudy weather or seeing barely any clouds, and if you're gonna add this, add a random option so the weather might vary during the match or not.
• We need fights. Fights happen in real life, and the referee issues a red card to the one who initiated the quarrel.
• Coaches can complain to the referees if they're close to them, but if they get too noisy, they get expelled by the referee.
• If we're watching a spectator match and entering in extra time, show the fourth referee lifting the sign indicating how many minutes added we will have.
• IN SPECTATOR MATCH: Every so often, a camera will show how the coaches see the match. Are they sitting? Are they calm? Are they spurting out orders? Also, not everyone wears a tuxedo. If an important match ends in victory (like winning a final), the coach and the rest of the substitute players jump out into the field and celebrate with the winners.
• Bring back the old penalty camera, but keep the current system.
• More scoreboards. (And flags that adjust to that scoreboard, for example, a circle for a 2002-WC-like scoreboard, the style the flags had in the 2010 WC)
• Allowance to choose the time the match starts at (The range varying between 11AM and 9PM), if the match starts late at the afternoon, make it so that sky gets darker with time, being completely at night by the time the match finishes, that'd add impressive realism.
• Become a Legend: AI, it has gone back to 2009 levels, on which it was frustratingly bad for every team you were on, they'd clear it out without even watching if there was somebody free to get the ball, and make stupid passes that the rival easily steals.
• Copa Libertadores: Make the teams available for every mode.
• Community/Cup: Allow an option to be an spectator of the Cup, watching every match without having to interfere.
• Community/Cup: This is something that bugged me to the very end once I made a Cup with 32 teams (and not playing, which is why I want that spectator thing), the order of the Third Place match and the FINALS. They were mixed. The finals should go first, not the third place match. Please change that.
• Community/Cup: We don't play the Copa América like that. We have twelve teams playing in three groups of four, and they all play in a round robin. The first two teams of each group, plus the two best thirds advance to the quarter finals, then the semi-finals, and then the final. That's how we do it.
• Community/Cup: If you lose any chance to continue in the Cup, make a pop up appear and ask you if you want to see how the rest of the Cup unfolds.
• Master League/World Cup: "Live" score, while your team plays a match, a tiny pop up at the bottom right corner of the screen will show which team just scored and who did it, that'd add realism to simultaneous matches, especially in the last match of the group stage of the World Cup, on which all of the teams in the group play at the same time, you might have a team that desperately needs the other match that's playing favourable, and you NEED to know how the match is going. That way you don't need to wait until the end of the match to see.
• Stadium Creator: More options.
• Create your team: We need one.
• Commentaries: We need better of them, we need a wider gamma so we can feel we're actually watching a game.
• Shirts: If it's rainy, make them wet, same (but not as wet) if the players are sweating after running too much, if they're playing in mud (rain), add it to the shirt.
• Shirts: Wider selection of options, I'm tired of seeing the same patterns in seven years.
• Anthems: We need more of them.
• Presentation pre-game: Make them either do what they do in this edition, shaking hands between each other in a row, make them have a group picture.
• Post-game: Make some players switch their shirts as they walk out, talking friendly and patting each other's back. If there was a team without luck (missing pretty much every shot), make them likely to start a fight (not too often), and make everyone participate in it (while quite some of them try to hold back the enraged partners).
• If team is playing bad: (Rarely) Make a camera show an enraged fan who is probably trying to start a fight or throwing several stuff into the field, the match stops for a bit until they pick up what the guy threw.
• Extra time: If the game is stopped for quite a while during extra time, the fourth referee may add another minute or minutes he deems necessary.
• Training: Challenges for us to pass, we need to shoot at the top-right corner of the goal post amongst several others.
• Hair: Its bouncing is really unnatural, and the selections aren't wide enough, and they all look flat and lifeless. We need more hairstyles and a better presentation of them.
• Blood: If the player has been hit with, let's say, an elbow in his nose, he should start bleeding and require immediate medic action (the medics need to enter the pitch, so we need them).
• Bicycle kick: They happen too often, they happen too bad. When a ball gets out of the rectangle and goes to an attacker, he shouldn't flip and shoot all the time.
• Hand: If a player touches the ball with his hands and is not the goalkeeper, there should be a foul and a yellow card for the infractor (red if the guy has a yellow one already), same goes for the goalkeeper if he is out of his limits.
• Attendants: Make it selectable again.

Those are some of my suggestions I'd do to improve this game.

 

[Bammers05]

[*]If team is playing bad: (Rarely) Make a camera show an enraged fan who is probably trying to start a fight or throwing several stuff into the field, the match stops for a bit until they pick up what the guy threw.

:lol: I'd love it if they added this.

 

[Ali]

^^Does this happen a lot in Uruguay?? :shocking:

 

[Masato]

It sadly does. So I guess it would be a great addition.

 

[The Eristic]

:lol: I'd love it if they added this.

Would be even better if you could make a player tackle the invader, then be sent off for violent conduct. :^D

 

[soc160]

We need a revamp of the set pieces in the game, the free kicks are great in terms of not just being able to smash it in every time, making the few you do score feel special but i think attacking set pices needs to re thought, i can pick who i want to go up (only defenders though) i should be able to design the set pices, allow me to pick where the players will stand and will run, this would open up a whole new world of opportunities from set pieces and give us more diversity.

At the moment from a corner the players runs are random, they line up the same way for most corners, if we could edit simple things like this it would give us a new dimension and a new challenge. In real life certain teams spend hours working on set pieces in trianing because they are game changers, a team such as stoke will score a decent amount of goals from dead ball situations because they mix them up and create situations that are difficult to defend, if the computer programmed that i would find it much more enjoyable to the dull and boring set pieces already in place.

Another problem is if I get a free kick around the half way line, instead of being able to float it into the box my players will line up about half way from the box and the half way line, this DOES NOT happen in real life, most teams will try to create space in that area by forcing the oppsition back into their own box. We should have a choice if we want to send our players in for a long ball or if we wnat to play it short, Iv been calling for this change for a while now, even before FIFA implemented a set piece editor, even if i saw some slight improvements id be happy but i honestly think they need a revamp to allow more freedom...

 

[Jose Mourinho]

All in all i feel konami has almost perfected the pro evo experience .. jus a couple of things tht need tweeking .. I am a die hard pro evo fan since the first one .. Here are my issues ;

- Penalty mode - its is very difficult to control the outcome of penalties .. this has made a huge impact on the overall gameplay ..

- Shooting - it is nearly perfected , but there could be dimensions added towards the shooting .. curling or swerving the ball round the post this is a feature i realised does not exist , it does though with fifa .. the ability to score from a long range obviously only lies with specifics players .. but this area could be improved upon ...

I must congratulate konami on delivering the ultimate footballing experience through the art of graphics ..


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[roblucci]

Listen pes staffs!!this is my suggestion:realmad:

please cooperate with european developer or kojima studio(very reasonable) for the work of the latest motion capture tech to simulate real football movement in pes.(shit i don't think they would hear my good recommendation)

 

[Lord Shrimpeh]

Firstly I've owned all the Pro Evo's from the day they came out, that's circa £420 over the years so you can give this post a little look Konami! Mostly these are Master League suggestions, as that's what I mainly play.

I would like to see a cumulative goal tally (across all seasons and competitions) in Master League for each of my players (it was on Pro Evo 2008 only I think). Maybe a bit sad but it's nice to keep track of your players over seasons!

Players in Master League to not get quite so brilliant, that would be a massive change for the better. After about 4/5 seasons it's easy to get a player to 90-110 stats and they're unbeatable. Any player pretty much that is if you buy them young, please sort this out it'll add so much to the longevity of Master League!

Most realistic money transfers - you're getting better with this but I'd like to see it so players don't cost £60 million who aren't brilliant or haven't had many games.

More interesting ability curves - it happens a bit but more often players lose form temporarily or permanently.

Players refuse to sign contracts or want to leave for other teams - I know this could be infuriating but implemented right it could be fantastic! Only if they're treated badly though or an offer is refused from a big team - I know you tried this but there was a bug in 2011, if an offer was made for your player and you didn't want him to lose loyalty by rejecting it if you left it to time out he wasn't annoyed!

BAL quicker to get started without tons of matches running around like a headless chicken

Computer to score more goals - again getting better but sometimes there are still inexplicable misses

Penalties fixed, they were horrendous! Why not add a power bar?? Even some other aid for direction. And put the camera back behind the player (I've heard this has been done already though)

Don't start with amazing players in ML! Palmeri is the best defender in the game for some reason... don't hand him out on a plate in the youth team!

Better Division Two in Master League - I know there is a lack of teams but a small D2 is a bit pointless and promotions and relegations can be annoying.

Option to sort Master League leagues into real life leagues - OK you don't have licenses but how about having a setting where you can make Master League into English League, French League, Italian League, Spanish league. I like playing in proper leagues.

That'll do for now. Oh and improve shooting it was terrible in last one. No stupid wacking it over the bar for now apparent reason for a good stats player unless under pressure or at least make it very rare.

 

[LuKaKu_TT]

No jokes I saw John Terry in Toys 'R' Us a few weeks back in Woking, Course told him i loved him and he is a beeeaassstt of a lad I asked him whether he could speak to Chelsea about letting Konami license them in the game, he just laughed and said yeh why not mate i enjoy a bit of PES every now and again :w00t :w00t :w00t Best moment of my entire life. I was only going in to get my Little brother a Nerf Gun :tongue:

 

[Kefir]

No jokes I saw John Terry in Toys 'R' Us a few weeks back in Woking, Course told him i loved him and he is a beeeaassstt of a lad I asked him whether he could speak to Chelsea about letting Konami license them in the game, he just laughed and said yeh why not mate i enjoy a bit of PES every now and again :w00t :w00t :w00t Best moment of my entire life. I was only going in to get my Little brother a Nerf Gun :tongue:

You should have told him how big a role model he is. Taking care of his teammates girlfriends.

Next time you see tell him he is overrated in the game. What an asshole.

 

[LuKaKu_TT]

You should have told him how big a role model he is. Taking care of his teammates girlfriends.

Next time you see tell him he is overrated in the game. What an asshole.

Why would i tell the England! and Chelsea captain that he is an Asshole ? oh big whoop he slept with Wayne bridges wife. So she had absolutely nothing to do with it it wasn't her fault? I think people that blame John Terry for the whole fiasco are just pathetic, and he was seperated from his wife at the time so she brought John over to talk to her and she asked him to give her one, not gunna say no. It's just the same as cheating on your girlfriend when you do it you don't give a f*ck you don't think about it being handed out to the press and then losing your captaincy for the national team. Wow i went on a bit maybe because Wayne bridge is the ass hole for not shaking his hand what a Twat

 

[Alice748]

I think this will be so cool against your friends, and just to have so much control will be great

 

[Pokervriend]

Hi Guys/Girls, Here are some additions I think would be fun/must be integrated in the game.

just like previous years I'm having great fun playing PES. There is -off course- always room for improvement, but I really think you made big progress in compare with PES 10 and 11. I have a few suggestions

1- What I would really love to see integrated in the game, is the possiblility to train on a smaller field. That you can play 7v7 on half a field, and 4v4 on 1/4 of a field or so. It should be possible to select the size of the pitch and the size of the goals. If you are able to play 4v4, you can learn the game so much faster (especially one-two's, dribbling and passing skills). 4v4 on a full pitch just isn't very exciting, since there is way to much space. Maye a good addition is a wall behind the goal when in free training. Now, when i'm practice my shots, every time I score or miss, it's a corner. It would be great if there was a big wall behind the goal, form cornerflag to cornerflag, so the balls just bounce back in the field..

2- I love the unlockable balls, especially the retro leather ones. Isn't it a good idea to insert those balls in online matches as well?

3- It is not really fair people get under the 70% restriction when their opponent disconnects or scores own goals. Should it not be so that u only get a warning when you yourself disconnects the game. Now, I play really careful when I lead 3-0, knowing there is a good chance the other player will disconnect if I score 1 or 2 more.

4- MOVING THE GOALKEEPER I do not know why, but apparently it is not possible to move your goalkeeper online. Strangely enough, this is no problem offline. Why would there be a difference? It is extremely annoying that opponents online can easely chip my keeper, or make a simple feint when he comes storming out. Can you please integrate the possibility to move the keeper online in the next Patch?

 

[bonga]

This MUST stop! My computer recently got my captain sent off by doing this. That is not "engineered for freedom" when the cpu does things wrong for you.

I have an idea I would like to share/propose to Konami. I know alot of people would not like it as it would break up the game a bit, but I would like be able to select a defender from the pause menu when the opposition have an attack. Far TOO MANY times, the computer have an attack and my highlighted player, when constantly pressing the change player button, flicks between 2 players behind the attacker, when I have players in front of the attacker just uselessly backing off. I can seldom ever catch them up, because players with 70's and low 80's for speed stats can always outpace my mid - high 90's players. I want to be able to choose to go my centre backs, rather than flicking between 2 AMF's.


I would also like to see the psychic defenders stop. They know when you are about to do a cut back, and defend it perfectly - even if they are as shit as titus bramble.

Also, in my master league, 17 teams play 4-5-1. It is boring, drab, and has zero variety. It has SEVERELEY dented my enjoyment of ML, and I'm just grinding out the 10 years trophy now. I may very well try it on a friends or rent 2012 because if it happens like that again, I wont want to play it, certainly not for 10 years, so I would like it to be more attacking - I wouldn't mind if I conceded 3 goals a games, as long as they dont just try to grind out 0-0's.

Lastly, please, bring back swap deals. Why did Konami get rid of them? They were a perfect way to manage on a small budget.

Yes bring back the swap deals , it has been greatly missed!!!!
Respect to u nameless

 

[kas786]

Many of the ideas posted have thus far been pretty good. But a word on the presentation:
When we view players stats we should not have to fiddle around so many screens. PES has always displayed stats on a single long list which may it much easier to compare players. This was changed for 2012 to a new system that does not allow one to glance over quickly or make thought out comparisons over two players abilities.

Amend this for PES 2013 KONAMI.

Also why were wingback's taken out for 2012? In leagues like Italy some players are clearly neither fullbacks or wingers but are clearly distinguishable as WB's. I find it frustrating when I play ML with Udinese without the option to play their 3-5-2 without WB's. We should have a right to tactical choice and for me it was taken away in terms of formation.