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is the Winning Eleven demo a slightly newer code than the PES one?

DIECI

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I have both but have been playing the PES demo all the time, yesterday I put the WE demo in and it felt smoother, slower and more polished. The passing seemed better, as did the defense. Maybe it felt better because its a bit slower? Anyone played the WE demo?
 

ezio

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I have both but have been playing the PES demo all the time, yesterday I put the WE demo in and it felt smoother, slower and more polished. The passing seemed better, as did the defense. Maybe it felt better because its a bit slower? Anyone played the WE demo?

I played it and I noticed the same thing. I am hoping it is newer code and not that WE will be better the better version compared to PES :no:
 

shaun7

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I am not so sure about that. I have both too but I am unsure weather it's better or not.
 

ezio

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I am not so sure about that. I have both too but I am unsure weather it's better or not.

I thought the dribbling was better maybe. I felt I was more effective dribbling with Messi in the WE demo. Keepers seemed better too but could just be me :)
 

The_whisper

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I have both but have been playing the PES demo all the time, yesterday I put the WE demo in and it felt smoother, slower and more polished. The passing seemed better, as did the defense. Maybe it felt better because its a bit slower? Anyone played the WE demo?

What the hell?:realmad:
Now what? Are we gonna buy PES and like every year KONAMI will favor WE again and release the code two, three weeks into PES release restricted to Japan and then sit down and laugh at us? again?
Last year, WE2010 was better than PES2010 in every single department as many would agree. I thought this was gonna end this year, but KONAMI never fails to surprise us does it?!
Not acceptable. They should make the final code IDENTICAL WORLDWIDE.
COME ONE GUYS, MAKE SOME NOISE...
 

john4

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just no. The WE demo was pretty much the same as the PES demo last year and is this year. as for it been slightly newer code there are so many people on this forum who grasp at this year in year out yet the official word was that we would get a 100% code for demo. If you dont like the demo you wont like the final game, simple as, dont expect it to be a different scenario come release day. If you do like it then fine, i personnaly dont mind it, not quite to FIFAs new level but 100Xs better than PES10 and i will buy it but it pains me to see such excuses every single year.
 

The_whisper

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just no. The WE demo was pretty much the same as the PES demo last year and is this year. as for it been slightly newer code there are so many people on this forum who grasp at this year in year out yet the official word was that we would get a 100% code for demo. If you dont like the demo you wont like the final game, simple as, dont expect it to be a different scenario come release day. If you do like it then fine, i personnaly dont mind it, not quite to FIFAs new level but 100Xs better than PES10 and i will buy it but it pains me to see such excuses every single year.

Listen pal, this isn't about making excuses not to buy the game. All I am saying is that it is unacceptable from KONAMI to release 2 different codes favoring one in quality ( FACT, FACT, FACT. you have to agree WE is better than PES) and restricting it to their home land.
My biggest problem with PES 2010 was it's ping-pong gameplay which drove me to the point I stopped playing.
I heard back then that WE2010 had a slower pace. I got it. Played it and there it was, not only slower pace but BETTER AI, BETTER GRAPHICS and BETTER GOALIES.
This is totally wrong. :angry:
 

shaun7

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^That's not true at all. As I said, I also played the WE demo and it;s isn't different. It's slightly more stable though but that's it. I believe the shooting felt better because I was laying as Spain and they have Torres and Villa ;) And Japan's defence isn't as good as bayern's or Barca's so maybe that's why the shooting felt better. Anyway I don't see why people would say that the we demo is much better because it's not. As I said, it could just be the selection of teams there.:)
 

The_whisper

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^That's not true at all. As I said, I also played the WE demo and it;s isn't different. It's slightly more stable though but that's it. I believe the shooting felt better because I was laying as Spain and they have Torres and Villa ;) And Japan's defence isn't as good as bayern's or Barca's so maybe that's why the shooting felt better. Anyway I don't see why people would say that the we demo is much better because it's not. As I said, it could just be the selection of teams there.:)

Forget about the damn DEMO for a second will ya?
Just tell me if you have played WE2010 FINAL code or not?
Could you not verify the edge it had over PES 2010 FINAL code?
If not, then it can't be helped.
 

shaun7

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This is pes 11's time not pes 10 vs we 2010. So forget about that. And to answer your question. No I haven't played the we 2010 final code. But it doesn't matter now because it's 2011 not 2010.
 

The_whisper

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This is pes 11's time not pes 10 vs we 2010. So forget about that. And to answer your question. No I haven't played the we 2010 final code. But it doesn't matter now because it's 2011 not 2010.

So please hear my call when I say I am concerned about the same drama to happen this year when I hear people saying WE demo looked better ( Even if you are saying they don't, some say they do and you can't ignore that). I am trying to stay positive about this but I really don't wanna buy the game twice if you know what I mean.
 

Dabeeds

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I'm trying to make a japanese account but it won't accept any user id names i'm trying to input.
 

DIECI

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just no. The WE demo was pretty much the same as the PES demo last year and is this year. as for it been slightly newer code there are so many people on this forum who grasp at this year in year out yet the official word was that we would get a 100% code for demo. If you dont like the demo you wont like the final game, simple as, dont expect it to be a different scenario come release day. If you do like it then fine, i personnaly dont mind it, not quite to FIFAs new level but 100Xs better than PES10 and i will buy it but it pains me to see such excuses every single year.

I have the FIFA demo and honestly I dont see the big deal, its ok , not gods gift to the gaming world like some make it out to be, honestly the visuals suck at FIFA, looks like a PS2 game! Im sticking to PES again this year !
 

Dabeeds

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#2 - Why do, "they still get to their intended offensive player target" all the time ?

Because the defenders are just standing there watching the passes roll right past them !

Just watch the replays, and pay attention to the man marking the offencive target, and his reactions when the ball is being played. It's shockingly bad defencive ai :shocking:

Idk, about this game. It would be such a shame if bad ai ruined, what would seemed like a good effort by konami.:no:
 

DIECI

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#2 - Why do, "they still get to their intended offensive player target" all the time ?

Because the defenders are just standing there watching the passes roll right past them !

Just watch the replays, and pay attention to the man marking the offencive target, and his reactions when the ball is being played. It's shockingly bad defencive ai :shocking:

Idk, about this game. It would be such a shame if bad ai ruined, what would seemed like a good effort by konami.:no:

ya, I made a thread about this, passing is way too overpowered in relations to the defense and player activity on the field. THey need to balance it out a bit and make it less powered or improve the defense. In the WE demo it seems to be a bit better IMO.
 

shaun7

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So please hear my call when I say I am concerned about the same drama to happen this year when I hear people saying WE demo looked better ( Even if you are saying they don't, some say they do and you can't ignore that). I am trying to stay positive about this but I really don't wanna buy the game twice if you know what I mean.

Ofcourse I understand you, and I know it can be worrying, but I just don't see a difference because as I said, it just be the teams in the we 11 demo.
 

RAMAXWY

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i get the same feeling when playing the demo's that the WE one plays smoother and i'm seeing animations that i haven't seen in the PES one yet.
the response seems better too.
i'm hoping its just in my head and that the final product will be the same for all regions.
 
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