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The Dude
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All the teams are licensed on mobile for j-league? So someone just needs to transfer all the data?
ronystan
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They're fully licensed on Mobile. What data do you mean?
Stats, positions, teams formations etc.
It could be awesome. But for that we need someone to decrypt the PES mobile apps.
If we can make exhibition matchs, we could only download the app and copy them manually... But in the PES 2018 mobile, you can't.
It's only myclub focused. Perhaps it may change with 2019 version.
It could be awesome. But for that we need someone to decrypt the PES mobile apps.
If we can make exhibition matchs, we could only download the app and copy them manually... But in the PES 2018 mobile, you can't.
It's only myclub focused. Perhaps it may change with 2019 version.
sobakus
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So people who play mobile cant even play regular games, it's all myclub?
And what do you think of the national teams made by Gonesm PES? They look good, but it's hard for me to tell really.
Faces are made in a fast way, that's average to be honest, Gonesm correct partially some side of the face/hair which is wrong.
I'm currently doing faces for every fakes in NT, and it really takes time, if you want to have something looking at least "accurate", at least not based on the fake faces values.
Creating a face could for some players could takes 40 minutes if you do this like AnthonyC (don't remember the full name member) from scratch, looking at side part of face...
It's important because while playing, that the side or 3/4 half face that you will see the most.
Also doing accessories, boots, gloves, correcting also height/weight for the fakes NT. I will also do some data correction for every player IG which have mistake...
I've created a thread listing every database mistakes on PES 2018 evo-web : all of them are mainly an issue when they pick a player from an older PES to a newer one
When they takes for example wrong foot from PES 2014, which was on a 8 scale, the player will have sometimes be badly translated to a 4 scale : if he's got 4 on a 8 scale foot on previous pes, some of them will often will be translated to 4 but on 4 scale (so, the maximum value) instead of 2 on a 4 scale.
Also 60 unchanged Body control.
But FTM, i'm creating appearances. Data correction will be later.
But they often changes and correct stats or faces for many players after DLC, and after that, you need to reset them...
I'm currently doing faces for every fakes in NT, and it really takes time, if you want to have something looking at least "accurate", at least not based on the fake faces values.
Creating a face could for some players could takes 40 minutes if you do this like AnthonyC (don't remember the full name member) from scratch, looking at side part of face...
It's important because while playing, that the side or 3/4 half face that you will see the most.
Also doing accessories, boots, gloves, correcting also height/weight for the fakes NT. I will also do some data correction for every player IG which have mistake...
I've created a thread listing every database mistakes on PES 2018 evo-web : all of them are mainly an issue when they pick a player from an older PES to a newer one
When they takes for example wrong foot from PES 2014, which was on a 8 scale, the player will have sometimes be badly translated to a 4 scale : if he's got 4 on a 8 scale foot on previous pes, some of them will often will be translated to 4 but on 4 scale (so, the maximum value) instead of 2 on a 4 scale.
Also 60 unchanged Body control.
But FTM, i'm creating appearances. Data correction will be later.
But they often changes and correct stats or faces for many players after DLC, and after that, you need to reset them...
Was the case from the 2015 to 2018 version, but this year i've checked the wiki and there will be many changes, the game will be created from zero:
https://www.konami.com/wepes/mobile/c/information/2019/en/
No mention of exhibitions matches unfortunately
sobakus
Registered User
Ok thanks for clarifying. I like his work for the European club teams, but it was hard to tell if it was any match for your national teams, particalrly since some NT i have no idea what players actually look like.
Last year yours was really good. Do you think you can share some exports as they become available? Perhaps on a per-continent basis? If possible.
I can only imagine how long that process takes! Its long and tedious enough recreating a player from a video, so I dont even know how you guys manage to create players from scratch! Thats very impressive.
And i know what you mean about messed up details. Last year they butchered the stats for Khune (best GK in South Africa for ages). His rating was 63(!), while in all other PES including 2019 it's in the high 70s. Ivan Alonso looked like he did 10 years ago, Zambia and Panama ratings are really bizarre...
Last year yours was really good. Do you think you can share some exports as they become available? Perhaps on a per-continent basis? If possible.
I can only imagine how long that process takes! Its long and tedious enough recreating a player from a video, so I dont even know how you guys manage to create players from scratch! Thats very impressive.
And i know what you mean about messed up details. Last year they butchered the stats for Khune (best GK in South Africa for ages). His rating was 63(!), while in all other PES including 2019 it's in the high 70s. Ivan Alonso looked like he did 10 years ago, Zambia and Panama ratings are really bizarre...
I've made Euro and North American teams but without importing kits on 1024 for moment. I also use a tool for undershort/undershirt to match exactly with the kit color.
When i'm done with Burkina Faso, i will share the continent version if you want to take a look (you can google image players i've modded, you'll see the work)
Edit: fortunately, i didn't make last year work for nothing: i've copied facebuild data to recopy them for many players, only taking a look for changing for current hair/shoes.
Yes there's errors to fix in Goalkeepers too (also a gk's weird conversion) and i try to correct that, but for now on i'm more on appearence.
The second and third step will be based database correction, and AFC + Brasileirao teams transfers/appearence even for removed players.
I've got much time than last year, but only this week it's a bit difficult to work on PES due to some rebuilding in my house.
Getting back to goalkeepers talk, K. HERNANDEZ is a result of that bad "translation" from older PES to newer. That's the only one i've corrected for now on and got 63 rating (same as the third Honduras GK) instead of 59.
But don't overlook about GK global ratings, it doesn't really reflect the real goalkeeping abilities, the most importants skills for the position i mean, there's also outfield skills, or not that much necessary calculations in the formula.
A 63/69 goalkeeper is an equivalent to a 70-75 outfield player due to that weirdly made global formula.
As i look at them, Zambia have high rated player in physical abilities but not very good as technical/tactical (like IRL).
The correction that i made is not to change every player, but only the mistakes made by the data editors from the PES team, there's too much player to correct.
But i will take a closer look, like i've said my work will be more on the basis
When i'm done with Burkina Faso, i will share the continent version if you want to take a look (you can google image players i've modded, you'll see the work)
Edit: fortunately, i didn't make last year work for nothing: i've copied facebuild data to recopy them for many players, only taking a look for changing for current hair/shoes.
Yes there's errors to fix in Goalkeepers too (also a gk's weird conversion) and i try to correct that, but for now on i'm more on appearence.
The second and third step will be based database correction, and AFC + Brasileirao teams transfers/appearence even for removed players.
I've got much time than last year, but only this week it's a bit difficult to work on PES due to some rebuilding in my house.
Getting back to goalkeepers talk, K. HERNANDEZ is a result of that bad "translation" from older PES to newer. That's the only one i've corrected for now on and got 63 rating (same as the third Honduras GK) instead of 59.
But don't overlook about GK global ratings, it doesn't really reflect the real goalkeeping abilities, the most importants skills for the position i mean, there's also outfield skills, or not that much necessary calculations in the formula.
A 63/69 goalkeeper is an equivalent to a 70-75 outfield player due to that weirdly made global formula.
As i look at them, Zambia have high rated player in physical abilities but not very good as technical/tactical (like IRL).
The correction that i made is not to change every player, but only the mistakes made by the data editors from the PES team, there's too much player to correct.
But i will take a closer look, like i've said my work will be more on the basis
sobakus
Registered User
Regarding Khune, i was referring specifically to this https://www.pesmaster.com/i-khune/pes-2018/player/37721/ - the overall rating in pes 2018. Thats really strange.
And with Zambia I was also comparing the team rating to other African teams in the game. It makes it seem as if Zambia is much worse than them, which i dont think is true. Same thing with Panama, Honduras and Jamaica. The game makes it seem as if there is a big difference between them and the big 3 CONCACAF teams, but we know from results that it is not so. I dont know if thats by design or a mistake by Konami?
And thank you for your work. I just wish Konami could do the sensible thing and pay you for it and then include it in a patch/datapack, instead of dedicating resources to twitting about myclub)))
And with Zambia I was also comparing the team rating to other African teams in the game. It makes it seem as if Zambia is much worse than them, which i dont think is true. Same thing with Panama, Honduras and Jamaica. The game makes it seem as if there is a big difference between them and the big 3 CONCACAF teams, but we know from results that it is not so. I dont know if thats by design or a mistake by Konami?
And thank you for your work. I just wish Konami could do the sensible thing and pay you for it and then include it in a patch/datapack, instead of dedicating resources to twitting about myclub)))
The overall rating for 2018 KHUNE is a bad conversion from PES 2014 stats (another type of error that i didn't mentionned on the evo-web thread: i didn't have time to made GKeepers)
The newer Khune version is corrected, just take a look at his goalkeepers stats.
K. HERNANDEZ have the exact same "conversion error" btw... But uncorrected in PES 2019.
About Jamaica, i know there are several new players in the team, but more "local" players.
The issue is not about the players itselves, but that some teams roster are from a certain date from may 2017, and many of those teams which wasn't qualified for the WC have in fact squad "under construction", with some players to test.
Like on a friendly match when you try some newcomers. Look at USA : Pulisic isn't in, from europe. But local players from MLS yes.
I tried to push forward and open their eyes about errors in the database, but it's more a PR lack of communication.
They didn't take what i've found seriously... I tried to purpose to them to be a Data checker: which is really needed.
It's hard to tell directly to the japanese PES team what's wrong and PR aren't all responsible neither, they're surrounded by nonsense and childish tweets.
The newer Khune version is corrected, just take a look at his goalkeepers stats.
K. HERNANDEZ have the exact same "conversion error" btw... But uncorrected in PES 2019.
About Jamaica, i know there are several new players in the team, but more "local" players.
The issue is not about the players itselves, but that some teams roster are from a certain date from may 2017, and many of those teams which wasn't qualified for the WC have in fact squad "under construction", with some players to test.
Like on a friendly match when you try some newcomers. Look at USA : Pulisic isn't in, from europe. But local players from MLS yes.
I tried to push forward and open their eyes about errors in the database, but it's more a PR lack of communication.
They didn't take what i've found seriously... I tried to purpose to them to be a Data checker: which is really needed.
It's hard to tell directly to the japanese PES team what's wrong and PR aren't all responsible neither, they're surrounded by nonsense and childish tweets.