StringerBell
Registered User
Good question I'm curious how this will turn out and no in a good way :mellow:
O and Cristiano please post the formula conversion for faces in 2012.
[LEAGUE] The Bundesliga Creation Thread
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Good question I'm curious how this will turn out and no in a good way :mellow:
O and Cristiano please post the formula conversion for faces in 2012.
StringerBell
Registered User
Okay so its sorted PES 2011 presets will not carry over to 2012. The player ends up looking like a generic default.
http://pes2008editing.blogspot.com/2011/08/25-teams-unlocked-patch-by-jenkey-beta.html
http://pes2008editing.blogspot.com/2011/08/25-teams-unlocked-patch-by-jenkey-beta.html
Chilli81
Registered User
the last games it was the way i posted it. if it turns out to be different during the season im gonna change it again
Game Day 3
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2011-12/3/1143309/spielanalyse_1-fsv-mainz-05-30_fc-schalke-04-2.html
Europa League vs Helsinki
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/uefa/qualifikation/europa-league-qualifikation/2011/4/1258518/spielbericht_fc-schalke-04-2_hjk-helsinki-1421.html
Game Day 4
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2011-12/4/1143315/spielvorschau_fc-schalke-04-2_borussia-mgladbach-15.html
Chilli81
Registered User
thats a lot of work... but i think it will be necessary for all faces we got to change the formula to pes 2012 format if we want to provide same quality as usual. i will help
do we move this one to pes 2012 editing section?
peixe02
Registered User
I was kind of expecting that... which is a shame. There are lots of preset faces lost between older games: Thiago Neves, Juninho and Fred in PES2009 are just an example.
Well, they are lost for us console users. They can still be used when editing the PC editions of the game.
Chilli81
Registered User
the new stats structure - thx to peixe 
Technique:
73 Attack
72 Defence
72 Header accuracy
77 Dribble accuracy
82 Short pass accuracy
78 Short pass speed
90 Long pass accuracy
90 Long pass speed
75 Shot accuracy
96 Place kicking
85 Swerve
80 Ball control
05 Weak foot acc.
05 Weak foot use.
50 Goal keeping skills
Speed:
73 Responsiveness
69 Explosive power
67 Dribble speed
69 Top speed
Physical:
76 Body balance
73 Stamina
84 Kicking Power
76 Jump
Injury
178 Height (cm)
78 Weight (Kg)
Resistance:
Attack awareness 2
Defence awareness 2
Form 5
Tenacity 82
Teamwork 77
35 Age
Technique:
73 Attack
72 Defence
72 Header accuracy
77 Dribble accuracy
82 Short pass accuracy
78 Short pass speed
90 Long pass accuracy
90 Long pass speed
75 Shot accuracy
96 Place kicking
85 Swerve
80 Ball control
05 Weak foot acc.
05 Weak foot use.
50 Goal keeping skills
Speed:
73 Responsiveness
69 Explosive power
67 Dribble speed
69 Top speed
Physical:
76 Body balance
73 Stamina
84 Kicking Power
76 Jump
Injury
178 Height (cm)
78 Weight (Kg)
Resistance:
Attack awareness 2
Defence awareness 2
Form 5
Tenacity 82
Teamwork 77
35 Age
hey man, my opinion was based on these declarations of ralf rangnick (head coach of schalke 04), I always thought of papadopoulos as a Center Back not a Defensive Midfielder:
Schalke 04 central defenders Benedikt Hoewedes and Kyriakos Papadopoulos, who featured in Thursday's 2-0 defeat to Helsinki in their Europa League playoff first leg, missed training on Friday but are expected to be fit for their league game against Mainz 05 on Sunday (1330).
Coach Ralf Rangnick said Howedes had some pain in his neck while his Greek defensive partner had picked up a knock in his thigh.
You can check them here ...http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/19082011/2/bundesliga-roundup-subotic-schmelzer-fit.html
paul2478
Moderator
Michael Thurk
Club: Augsburg
Number: 27
Position: CF*, WF
Nationality: German
Age: 35 (28/5/76)
Foot: R
Side: R
Length: 1.77
Weight: 66
Attack: 78
Defence: 47
Balance: 74
Stamina: 78
Top Speed: 79
Acceleration: 76
Response: 81
Agility: 74
Dribble Accuracy: 78
Dribble Speed: 74
Short Pass Accuracy: 71
Short Pass Speed: 69
Long Pass Accuracy: 67
Long Pass Speed: 66
Shot Accuracy: 78
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 79
Free Kick Accuracy: 66
Curling: 65
Header: 71
Jump: 75
Technique: 74
Aggression: 86
Mentality: 75
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 70
Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitnes: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 3
Weak Foot Frequency: 3
Club: Augsburg
Number: 27
Position: CF*, WF
Nationality: German
Age: 35 (28/5/76)
Foot: R
Side: R
Length: 1.77
Weight: 66
Attack: 78
Defence: 47
Balance: 74
Stamina: 78
Top Speed: 79
Acceleration: 76
Response: 81
Agility: 74
Dribble Accuracy: 78
Dribble Speed: 74
Short Pass Accuracy: 71
Short Pass Speed: 69
Long Pass Accuracy: 67
Long Pass Speed: 66
Shot Accuracy: 78
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 79
Free Kick Accuracy: 66
Curling: 65
Header: 71
Jump: 75
Technique: 74
Aggression: 86
Mentality: 75
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 70
Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitnes: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 3
Weak Foot Frequency: 3
luukzwaan
Registered User
http://www.transfermarkt.de/en/frederic-loehe/transfers/spieler_36194.html
guess who's back
you were right with stepanek, @ transfermarkt.de he is listed as part of the second team of HSV, maybe he got no professional contract as he's not listed in the bundi squad. doesnt matter, i'ma add him. thx for checkin it out
gonna post the new stats structure later that day
The english version of transfermarkt says he's in the second team now.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/frederic-loehe/profil/spieler_36194.html
but I will add him to the squad
paul2478
Moderator
They should be ok, all that seem st have happened is acceleration & agility have been removed & replaced with explosive power, Shot technique has been removed and a few others have been renamed. The only really new stats are the attack/deffence awareness so they should be easy to transfers across to the new game
luukzwaan
Registered User
Here are my findings:
These are the abilities that were lost in 2012:
Acceleration
Agility
Shot Power
Shot Tech
Free Kick
Technique
Aggression
These are the new ones in 2012:
Place Kicking
Ball Control
Explosive pw
Kicking pw
And there are new systems for the Injury and Att/Def awareness
I compared overall stats of Man U and found out that Rafael, Evra and Fletcher have the exact same overall rating.
So I used those players for my "Study"
All the abilities that have remained are very very similar (as expected). only some minor changes there. So this means we can have a look at the new vs. old stats and see if there is something to be found there...
Here are those findings:
Rafael
PES 2011
Acceleration 87
Agility 83
Shot Power 79
Shot Tech 68
Free Kick 68
Technique 75
Aggresion 84
Pes 2012
Place Kicking 63
Ball Control 75
Explosive pw 83
Kicking pw 77
Evra
PES 2011
Acceleration 90
Agility 86
Shot Power 76
Shot Tech 65
Free Kick 63
Technique 78
Aggresion 80
Pes 2012
Place Kicking 63
Ball Control 78
Explosive pw 86
Kicking pw 76
Fletcher
PES 2011
Acceleration 75
Agility 77
Shot Power 79
Shot Tech 68
Free Kick 70
Technique 80
Aggresion 65
Pes 2012
Place Kicking 70
Ball Control 78
Explosive pw 77
Kicking pw 79
Well you can all find you're own conclusions here but these are mine:
I think the aggression ability has been completely lost.. (can't find it in anything new)
Ball control is in all the three cases the same as technique. So I think that's just a new name.
Explosive Power is in all the three cases the same as Agility. But I think acceleration has to be in here somewhere too...
Kicking Power is in all the three cases almost the same as Shot Power. So I think that's just a new name.
Place Kicking is in all three cases almost the same as Shot technique and Free kick Acc. so I thinks both of those ability are in this new ability (I always thought Free kick acc was a weird ability cuz the fk acc depends on the shot acc/pw/tech) so maybe they just cut out Free kick accuracy and Place kicking is actually shot technique..
These are my findings let me know what you all think?
These are the abilities that were lost in 2012:
Acceleration
Agility
Shot Power
Shot Tech
Free Kick
Technique
Aggression
These are the new ones in 2012:
Place Kicking
Ball Control
Explosive pw
Kicking pw
And there are new systems for the Injury and Att/Def awareness
I compared overall stats of Man U and found out that Rafael, Evra and Fletcher have the exact same overall rating.
So I used those players for my "Study"
All the abilities that have remained are very very similar (as expected). only some minor changes there. So this means we can have a look at the new vs. old stats and see if there is something to be found there...
Here are those findings:
Rafael
PES 2011
Acceleration 87
Agility 83
Shot Power 79
Shot Tech 68
Free Kick 68
Technique 75
Aggresion 84
Pes 2012
Place Kicking 63
Ball Control 75
Explosive pw 83
Kicking pw 77
Evra
PES 2011
Acceleration 90
Agility 86
Shot Power 76
Shot Tech 65
Free Kick 63
Technique 78
Aggresion 80
Pes 2012
Place Kicking 63
Ball Control 78
Explosive pw 86
Kicking pw 76
Fletcher
PES 2011
Acceleration 75
Agility 77
Shot Power 79
Shot Tech 68
Free Kick 70
Technique 80
Aggresion 65
Pes 2012
Place Kicking 70
Ball Control 78
Explosive pw 77
Kicking pw 79
Well you can all find you're own conclusions here but these are mine:
I think the aggression ability has been completely lost.. (can't find it in anything new)
Ball control is in all the three cases the same as technique. So I think that's just a new name.
Explosive Power is in all the three cases the same as Agility. But I think acceleration has to be in here somewhere too...
Kicking Power is in all the three cases almost the same as Shot Power. So I think that's just a new name.
Place Kicking is in all three cases almost the same as Shot technique and Free kick Acc. so I thinks both of those ability are in this new ability (I always thought Free kick acc was a weird ability cuz the fk acc depends on the shot acc/pw/tech) so maybe they just cut out Free kick accuracy and Place kicking is actually shot technique..
These are my findings let me know what you all think?
Chilli81
Registered User
i think aggression is now part of the "attack awareness" - stat which is rated from 1 - 3. can't explain myself why they add another rating for attack and defense where they are also both rated in technique list. mr. seabass, we need your explanation here
Place Kicking is named "Standardsituationen" in German which includes Free Kicks, Corners and Penaltys. so i think free kick acc. is replaced with place kicking.
So where has shot techniqe gone? maybe also rated in ball control?
your thoughts that explosiveness replaces acceleration and agility seem very clear. Especially if you take a look at pes 2012 1-on-1 gameplay. there are some special controls with R2 to accelerate "explosive" for short distance by tipping R2 when you are facing the defender. the rest of agility will be rated with dribble accuracy for sure...
but i think its not that easy to simply convert pes2011 stats to 2012 if we regard these changes.
Place Kicking is named "Standardsituationen" in German which includes Free Kicks, Corners and Penaltys. so i think free kick acc. is replaced with place kicking.
So where has shot techniqe gone? maybe also rated in ball control?
your thoughts that explosiveness replaces acceleration and agility seem very clear. Especially if you take a look at pes 2012 1-on-1 gameplay. there are some special controls with R2 to accelerate "explosive" for short distance by tipping R2 when you are facing the defender. the rest of agility will be rated with dribble accuracy for sure...
but i think its not that easy to simply convert pes2011 stats to 2012 if we regard these changes.
SCR Fan
Registered User
Per Ciljan Skjelbred (Hamburger SV) - PES 2011
Hairstyle: Shiels (Northern Irish NT)
Base: 1 / 7 / 2 / +5 / 3,-2 / +2 / -3 / +1 / +4 / 1 / -1,1 / -1
Brows: 7 / 1 / 1 / +7 / -5 / +3 / +1 / +2 / 4 / (40 / 33 / 24)
Eyes: 5 / 4 / +4 / +1 / -1 / +3 / -3,-1 / +3 / 0 / +1 / -1 / -1,-1 / bright / 5
Ears: -3 / 1,-2
Nose: 3,4 / -2,1 / +1 / -2 / -1,-3 / -2
Mouth: 1 / -2 / -2 / -1,1 / 1,0 / -7,-3 / +3
Jaw: +2 / +1 / +5
Beard: Off
Neck lengh: -1
Neck size: +1
Per Ciljan Skjelbred (Hamburger SV) - PES 2012
Hairstyle: Krasic (Juventus)
Base: 1 / 7 / 2 / +5 / 5,-3 / +2 / -1 / +2 / +5 / 1 / -1,1 / -3
Brows: 7 / 1 / 1 / +7 / -7 / +1 / +1 / +2 / 4 / (35 / 28 / 20)
Eyes: 10 / 4 / +2 / +1 / +2 / +4 / -5,-5 / +3 / 0 / +1 / -2 / -1,-4 / bright / 5
Ears: -4 / 2,-1
Nose: 3,4 / -2,1 / +1 / -2 / -1,-3 / -2
Mouth: 1 / -2 / 0 / -1,-1 / -1,0 / 7,-3 / +1
Jaw: +2 / +1 / +5 / 2
Beard: Off
Neck lengh: -1
Neck size: +1
Hairstyle: Shiels (Northern Irish NT)
Base: 1 / 7 / 2 / +5 / 3,-2 / +2 / -3 / +1 / +4 / 1 / -1,1 / -1
Brows: 7 / 1 / 1 / +7 / -5 / +3 / +1 / +2 / 4 / (40 / 33 / 24)
Eyes: 5 / 4 / +4 / +1 / -1 / +3 / -3,-1 / +3 / 0 / +1 / -1 / -1,-1 / bright / 5
Ears: -3 / 1,-2
Nose: 3,4 / -2,1 / +1 / -2 / -1,-3 / -2
Mouth: 1 / -2 / -2 / -1,1 / 1,0 / -7,-3 / +3
Jaw: +2 / +1 / +5
Beard: Off
Neck lengh: -1
Neck size: +1
Per Ciljan Skjelbred (Hamburger SV) - PES 2012
Hairstyle: Krasic (Juventus)
Base: 1 / 7 / 2 / +5 / 5,-3 / +2 / -1 / +2 / +5 / 1 / -1,1 / -3
Brows: 7 / 1 / 1 / +7 / -7 / +1 / +1 / +2 / 4 / (35 / 28 / 20)
Eyes: 10 / 4 / +2 / +1 / +2 / +4 / -5,-5 / +3 / 0 / +1 / -2 / -1,-4 / bright / 5
Ears: -4 / 2,-1
Nose: 3,4 / -2,1 / +1 / -2 / -1,-3 / -2
Mouth: 1 / -2 / 0 / -1,-1 / -1,0 / 7,-3 / +1
Jaw: +2 / +1 / +5 / 2
Beard: Off
Neck lengh: -1
Neck size: +1
SCR Fan
Registered User
Henning Hauger (Hannover 96) - PES 2011
Hairstyle: Short / Straight / 57 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Base: 1 / 2 / 5 / -2 / 5,2 / +2 / +5 / +1 / -1 / 3 / 2,-1 / -2
Brows: 5 / 2 / 1 / +7 / -7 / +1 / +6 / +3 / 4 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Eyes: 6 / 10 / -6 / -1 / -1 / +5 / -3,3 / +1 / -1 / -2 / 0 / 1,-2 / bright / 5
Ears: +3 / -2,-3
Nose: -1,2 / -2,-2 / -1 / +2 / 1,3 / -1
Mouth: 7 / 0 / +5 / 1,2 / -2,-2 / 4,-4 / -1
Jaw: +2 / +2 / +4
Beard: 23 / 2 (11 / 9 / 6)
Neck lengh: +2
Neck size: +1
Henning Hauger (Hannover 96) - PES 2012
Hairstyle: Short / Straight / 57 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Base: 1 / 2 / 5 / -2 / 5,-2 / +2 / +5 / +1 / -1 / 3 / 2,-1 / -2
Brows: 5 / 2 / 1 / +7 / -7 / +1 / +6 / +3 / 4 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Eyes: 6 / 10 / -6 / -1 / -1 / +5 / -3,3 / +1 / -1 / -2 / 0 / 1,-2 / bright / 5
Ears: +3 / -2,-3
Nose: -1,2 / -2,2 / -1 / +2 / 1,3 / -1
Mouth: 7 / 0 / +5 / 1,-2 / 2,-2 / -4,-4 / -1
Jaw: +2 / +2 / +4 / 1
Beard: 23 / 2 (11 / 9 / 6)
Neck lengh: +2
Neck size: +1
Hairstyle: Short / Straight / 57 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Base: 1 / 2 / 5 / -2 / 5,2 / +2 / +5 / +1 / -1 / 3 / 2,-1 / -2
Brows: 5 / 2 / 1 / +7 / -7 / +1 / +6 / +3 / 4 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Eyes: 6 / 10 / -6 / -1 / -1 / +5 / -3,3 / +1 / -1 / -2 / 0 / 1,-2 / bright / 5
Ears: +3 / -2,-3
Nose: -1,2 / -2,-2 / -1 / +2 / 1,3 / -1
Mouth: 7 / 0 / +5 / 1,2 / -2,-2 / 4,-4 / -1
Jaw: +2 / +2 / +4
Beard: 23 / 2 (11 / 9 / 6)
Neck lengh: +2
Neck size: +1
Henning Hauger (Hannover 96) - PES 2012
Hairstyle: Short / Straight / 57 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Base: 1 / 2 / 5 / -2 / 5,-2 / +2 / +5 / +1 / -1 / 3 / 2,-1 / -2
Brows: 5 / 2 / 1 / +7 / -7 / +1 / +6 / +3 / 4 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Eyes: 6 / 10 / -6 / -1 / -1 / +5 / -3,3 / +1 / -1 / -2 / 0 / 1,-2 / bright / 5
Ears: +3 / -2,-3
Nose: -1,2 / -2,2 / -1 / +2 / 1,3 / -1
Mouth: 7 / 0 / +5 / 1,-2 / 2,-2 / -4,-4 / -1
Jaw: +2 / +2 / +4 / 1
Beard: 23 / 2 (11 / 9 / 6)
Neck lengh: +2
Neck size: +1
Nemisiskidd
Registered User
Henning Hauger (Hannover 96) - PES 2011
Hairstyle: Short / Straight / 57 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Base: 1 / 2 / 5 / -2 / 5,2 / +2 / +5 / +1 / -1 / 3 / 2,-1 / -2
Brows: 5 / 2 / 1 / +7 / -7 / +1 / +6 / +3 / 4 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Eyes: 6 / 10 / -6 / -1 / -1 / +5 / -3,3 / +1 / -1 / -2 / 0 / 1,-2 / bright / 5
Ears: +3 / -2,-3
Nose: -1,2 / -2,-2 / -1 / +2 / 1,3 / -1
Mouth: 7 / 0 / +5 / 1,2 / -2,-2 / 4,-4 / -1
Jaw: +2 / +2 / +4
Beard: 23 / 2 (11 / 9 / 6)
Neck lengh: +2
Neck size: +1
Henning Hauger (Hannover 96) - PES 2012
Hairstyle: Short / Straight / 57 / (11 / 9 / 6) ???
Base: 1 / 2 / 5 / -2 / 5,-2 / +2 / +5 / +1 / -1 / 3 / 2,-1 / -2
Brows: 5 / 2 / 1 / +7 / -7 / +1 / +6 / +3 / 4 / (11 / 9 / 6)
Eyes: 6 / 10 / -6 / -1 / -1 / +5 / -3,3 / +1 / -1 / -2 / 0 / 1,-2 / bright / 5
Ears: +3 / -2,-3
Nose: -1,2 / -2,2 / -1 / +2 / 1,3 / -1
Mouth: 7 / 0 / +5 / 1,-2 / 2,-2 / -4,-4 / -1
Jaw: +2 / +2 / +4
Beard: 23 / 2 (11 / 9 / 6)
Neck lengh: +2
Neck size: +1
Greetings
please make the changes bold.
SCR Fan
Registered User
Alright, but only for this face as an example, I won´t edit all my faces again.:no:
But therefore I´ll explain it to you more detailed. As you may have noticed, all the changes include the 3D Stick. In PES 2011 most of the 3D Stick parts of the face editing work like this: Up and right is +, Down and left is -
But there are some exceptions, and those exceptions seem to be the ones changed for PES 2012, so now it will all work with that scheme. Hope you get the idea, my english isn´t perfect.:blush:
But therefore I´ll explain it to you more detailed. As you may have noticed, all the changes include the 3D Stick. In PES 2011 most of the 3D Stick parts of the face editing work like this: Up and right is +, Down and left is -
But there are some exceptions, and those exceptions seem to be the ones changed for PES 2012, so now it will all work with that scheme. Hope you get the idea, my english isn´t perfect.:blush:
Chilli81
Registered User
FC AUGSBURG
4-2-3-1
4-2-3-1
GK JENTZSCH
CB MÖHRLE
CB DE ROECK
SB VERHAEGH
SB M. DE JONG
DMF CALLSEN-BRACKER (C)
CMF DAVIDS
SMF NDJENG
SMF BELLINGHAUSEN
AMF BAIER
CF MÖLDERS
Bench:
GK AMSIF
CB SANKOH
CB LANGKAMP
SB REINHARDT
DMF HOSOGAI
DMF SINKALA
SMF WERNER
WF GOGIA
WF DAWDA BAH
CF KAPPLANI
CF NANDO RAFAEL
Reserve
GK GELIOS
DMF NEBEL
CMF BRINKMANN
CMF THIEDE
SS OEHRL
SS HAIN
CF MAYER