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[LEAGUE] Thread for Argentina Primera División

Kiq

Registered User
I was thinking if someone could make a league thread with Argentina's First Division. Because PES 2013 will be 2 types of ML: European and South American. But, from Latin America leagues, only Brazilian League will be in the game, and will be good have more league(s) to play S.A. ML. The same goes to Chilean, Mexican and other Latin America leagues.
Furthermore, we will have two fake leagues in PES 2013: PES League and WE League. We can use one for a European league, like Bundesliga, and another to a Latin America league, like Primera División.
So, what do you think guys? Thanks for the attention.

PS: in the case of someone create a thread with the mencioned league or another reason, the moderators can be feel free to delete this thread.
 

Nemisiskidd

Registered User
hmm? wouldnt get my hopes 2 high over the another custom league, im sure i heard the same thing last year on the threads prior to release but we didnt get that extra WE league :(.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
Inspecting the relevant image files on the demo now, it says the following;

English League
Ligue 1
Italian League
Eredivisie
Portugal League
Liga BBVA
Brazilian League
PES League
D2 League

And an odd league called "Extra Teams" that includes 10 teams with ugly names.

In addition are the usual teams there Other European etc.


EDIT: I would like the Argentine League over the Brazilian one though, but I doubt we could emulate the rather intricate (read silly, personal opinion) league system in any way.
 

Kiq

Registered User
Well, I prefer the Brazilian League, obviously because I'm brazilian :p .

And yes, we will be another custom league, the WE League. Demo 1 files have WE League and WE Cup, so WE League isn't the D2, because D2 doesn't have a own cup.
Images from PES 2013 ML by Prorevo, that shows the WE League (in blue):



 

Eisuke

Moderator
I think you are wrong, because I have read, that the WE League is only a "2nd League" of the Pes League.
And then you add the Argentinia PL to the PES League or WE League, you could play with it in the europe or south american ML...
 

StringerBell

Registered User
Wellthe game will be giving us 5 Argentine teams in the Libretadoes plus River Plate in the SA section giving us a total of 6. 14 Need to be created...

As for what Sabatasso said about the 10 extra teams perhaps these are just placeholders and really represent nothing.

On another note perhaps this Winning Eleven league is the J league?
 

Nemisiskidd

Registered User
i would love the argentinian league but really im going to be sceptical over the WE league and WE cup as those could just be for the Japanese game, its PES outside Japan so in the PES game, PES league and PES cup cancel out WE in the actual game even though it is hidden (league images) in a file on the disc, and vice versa in Japan. OK leme stop being pessemistic, i would obviously enjoy another league and most of all a competetive league such as the argentinian so i believe we should obviously go ahead and make a creation thread.

P.S. on a second note, for more confirmation its best to wait in the coming 2 weeks as PC demo 2 will be out meaning updates within the hidden files for us to search through.

EDIT: just looked at the images above, THIS COULD BE TRUE!:w00t, eradicates my theory of the Japan's WE and rest of world with PES, anyway if true i hope Konami dont get emblem spaces wrong this time
 

Sabatasso

Banned
Both Brazilian and Argentinian would be absolutely awesome, weird that I don't find anything else in the img files though...




Active files;
dt04.img
ct0f.img
copa_libertadores.bin


PS. Truly admirable of you to take initiative to make Arg league, Kiq, I was under the impression that Brazialians and Argie's were bitter rivals :)
 

Kiq

Registered User
Both Brazilian and Argentinian would be absolutely awesome, weird that I don't find anything else in the img files though...




Active files;
dt04.img
ct0f.img
copa_libertadores.bin


PS. Truly admirable of you to take initiative to make Arg league, Kiq, I was under the impression that Brazialians and Argie's were bitter rivals :)

Yes, unfortunaly, I found only 10 fictional emblems and line-ups that can be of WE League too, and some gamers that have the Demo 2 from Xbox said that now is only 4 fictional emblems :( . But, who knows, we have to wait the game released.
About initiative, I only think that a league like Argentina Primera Division, one of most knowed leagues in the world, should be in the game. Specially now, that we have a South American ML, and we can only play these mode with brazilian teams. Other SA league, like Argentina, will make the game more realistic.
And, yes, unfortunaly, exists this rivalry between brazilians and argentines, but is a media influence about us. But, I think that if this rivalry existed only in football or were restricted a jokes and healthy things, nothing more, these prejudice may end :)

PS: according w/ recent informations, no J.League in PES 2013, even River Plate, seems like argentines teams only in Libertadores mode, or replacing a fictional league :(
 

Kiq

Registered User
Sorry for double post, it's just some ideas about a possible argentine Primera Division thread:

About faces, I don't know if the facemakers usually make argentina faces, because I never see some Primera Division (but, until now, I never look for :D )
About players and stats, we can use Football Manager database, like is used in Bundesliga and Russian PL thread.
But, if not possible (We need of someone that have the FM Convertor and a lot of avaliable time), we can use Pes Stats Database stats, but we would to decrease a little the players stats, because is too overrated, in my opinion.
And, to help, we will have some Argentine teams in PES 2013, in Libertadores mode (Arsenal, Boca, Lanús, Godoy Cruz and Vélez), beyond from PES 2012 teams (River, Argentinos Jrs, Estudiantes and Independiente), that we can use the line-ups as base for the teams, through of the "import data from early version" (please Konami, don't take off this option!)
Ending, it's little hard find some shirts for argentine teams, but I think that if we ask for the kitmakers (like Nemisiskidd, Charlie, Calojah, Mike1Zero... that have excellent kits), we can resolve this problem.
 

StringerBell

Registered User
Robbyearon is the go to guy for editing the Argentina teams he does an OF every year and his work was even shown on a tv show in Argentina lol. I think I've seen him on this site once but it would be great for him to share his work with the community.....

[youtube]j7dTInpYoSw&feature[/youtube]
 

StringerBell

Registered User
Great find Stringer :)

Thanks just wish those guys would make their way over to this site and share their work.

i would be interested in doing a league thread for the argentinian league.

That would be cool once we get some more info on what we can import and specific teams there should not not be that many teams that need to be created.

For now we have Independiente, Arg Juniors, Estudiantes, Godoy Cruz, Velez Sarsfield, Boca and River Plate. Combine that with the teams already in 2013 that gives you 13 Argentinian clubs leaving a measly 7 to be created. Not bad at all.
 

Kiq

Registered User
Great find, but is what StringerBell said: we have to know if the editor want share this work w/ us. Specially because this looks like only for PS3, and I think that users from PC (like me :( ) and Xbox 360 want Argentina PD and other LA leagues too.
It's good see that 99Doogs is interested in create a Arg. Primera División thread, and I want to help, if possible (I don't know with what, but maybe I can be helpful :D )
 

Sabatasso

Banned
I am very interested in this league, and the option file has room for it. The WE League is in the South American section, ready to be filled with Argie teams!

I can make team badges... but I suck at kits, other than that there is little help in me though. I don't know any players well enough to have an opinion on stats, and I can only make half decent kit png's. But if you need good quality team badges, I'm you man! :D
 
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