Lionel Messi stas are a joke!

[watty1877]

ok, that was pretty funny

 

[Jake Small]

If you think Ronaldinho is seen as good just because he is a 'fancy dribbler' and 'fun to watch' or whatever... I don't know what to say. Ronaldinho has more impact in a game than any other player I've watched in this decade.

Rooney can be considered a more all around player if you are talking in terms of positioning: offensive, defensive. But as someone pointed out, that can also be taken as meaning all around ability IE passing, shooting, dribbling, and all those things, which IMHO, Ronaldinho has Rooney beat in almost all of them. Rooney tracks back better though and is better at marking. But when you say 'better all around offensive midfielder', IMO, you are talking about Ronaldinho, not somebody who will also play a bit of defensive midfielding...

I'm not sure if you appreciate how good Ronnie is, but just taking a look at the recent Chelsea games sealed the deal for me. When he gets the ball, something is going to happen. He was a league above every player on the pitch!

 

[Vindaturk]

good thread

 

[flakmonkey]

ahahahaha. i just read a few pages .. but this is funny ahah.

option files guys!!!..

i believe rooney is WAY too good in PES5.. =/.. but thats just the dweverns option pack.. now that you think about it.. he's actually that good in real life.. my bad =P

 

[james_chelsea1]

Ronaldinho is da best

 

[S-D-P]

in the master league he becomes superb though and even though his stats dont dramatically improve he becomes an excellent player

 

[Cyclope]

Offense 88
Balance 82
Stamina 83
Speed 91
Accel 88
Respons 81
Drib acc 92
Drib spd 91
Short pas 82
Short spd 79
Lng pass 84
Lng spd 78
Shot acc 84
Shot spd 84
Shot tech 89
Header 75
Jump 84
Tech 95

Special stars:

Dribble
Tactical dribble
Reaction
Side
1-touch pass
Passing
Outside

I totally agree with these stats, now that's Messi

 

[gari]

fucking idiot play master league he isn't maradonna yet you idiot go jerk off instead f making fuckin useless topics moron

 

[Cyclope]

fucking idiot play master league he isn't maradonna yet you idiot go jerk off instead f making fuckin useless topics moron

Get off my topic you useless parasite worm, I never asked about your opinion, piece of shit. You see, I can write like you..

 

[steph_wheeler]

I hate what you guys say of Totti when it clearly seems you have rarely seen him play. Some of you guys are saying that he'd be playing for some big club such as Real Madrid, Chelsea, Barcelona or whatever. You seem to underestimate AS Roma. It's silly of you. Undoubtedly, Roma can be placed among the best clubs in the world, although they haven't been in sublime form for the past years, for at least a decade to go. You guys don't seem to realize what being a big club means; to you it means winning trophies. But there are very few trophies to be won when compared to the number of teams competing for them. AS Roma are ever title contenders or at least conceivable winners for any major tournaments. It wouldn't seem farfetched that AS Roma win a Champions League or a Seria A title. Because of Roma's lack of form in recent years, you belittle one of the best playmakers of the last ten years or so. I don't need to tell you what he can do, because you'd have to research that for yourself. I can say that he has had the difficult task of keeping Roma where it is. But you guys think about Real Madrid, but do you know the last time Real Madrid won a title? Chelsea are a great team, but Roma is, too. Teams rise and fall. It won't be long till Chelsea falls. They'd still be a big club. They have means to buy "world class" players, but I think the price of their signings doesn't indicate anything whatever of what they will achieve in a season. Will you ever hear a player say, "We signed Michael Ballack, Germany's star midfielder - he was worth 30K - we are the best club in the world - we are going to win it all this year. All top players are equal. No one player can claim to be better than any other, because form and fitness are the only things that matter in Football. If you think you know what a great team or player is, you will always be mistaken. There are no such things; there are only results. And sadly many players are overlooked because they don't win as many trophies as others. Fanatism is what blinds us most. Open your mind when you're watching a football game, and see how things will never happen as you expected them to. Don't try to explain what can't be explained but observe and accept. If ever you get to see Totti play a good game appreciate it, because he isn't a lower category player and will never be considered as such for many years to come.

 

[Kewell[AUS]]

I want to defend Totti aswell, he fucking won the World Cup didn't he and started in the final despite not even being fully fit. Not too mention that he has stayed loyal to Roma while clubs like Real Madrid have been after him.

Well thats your opinion. If [Totti] was that good in real life, how come he has never won any major tophies with Roma? Surely a player of that unrivaled ability would carry a team like that to Champions League glory and likewise with Italy.

This is of course bullshit. Ronaldinho or Rooney couldn't carry Roma anywhere. Totti's ability cannot be judged on Romas success.