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Master League Training - Only people who know what they are talking about need apply.

Pai-Ling

Registered User
Does anybody know of effective ways to do off-season training?

I do training every week of off-season, you can get away with doing it twice before a game, although the week just before a match it seems that not all of your players progress....????

I have dabbled with the though of development graphs and come to the logic that....
FACT - These graphs do not change, they stay fixed.
The graph must be purely based upon league fixtures as you HAVE to play all 29 fixtures - it cannot project growth in the Div one cup or WEFA Champs cup as its not always possible you will be in them ect....

It means that you can exceed all players graphs by playing them in every possible fixture..

Any thought on effective methods to get the best out of your players from training that would be quick and easy would be very much obliged, I am in 2008 off-season, I have Cardarson and Baumjohann (Cardozo) they're immense (get them from the start) but am struggling to get 95s - 90s wasn't really a problem... Baumjohann has 11+ 90 stats, 2 of which are 99s...
 

Saviola.

Registered User
Well, off season training is always slow, and the development graphs do stay the same, those with the higher curve learn quicker, but this does not seem 2 apply for the off season training. However, try team training I'm not 2 sure about this but i think it will b quicker in the longrun...
 

Pai-Ling

Registered User
Thats What I meant!! the Team Training - You can only do it in the off season of your Master League - just wanted some insight into other peoples techniques, mine take so much time and I don't seem to be getting that much out of it...
 

methical

as normal as norman bates
i never do training but i play all 7 matches with my youngest players.
there were 17 players capable of improveing and i improved 16 different players per game and they go up pretty well without training.
 

Pai-Ling

Registered User
Trust me it makes a massive difference to do the training, im just looking for a good routine..
 

methical

as normal as norman bates
does it
i tried it for a efw games and neve found anything extra
u should see my team without doing the training, especially vomme(van den borre)
 

Pai-Ling

Registered User
Honestly - it really does, baumjohann and Cardozo (cardarson) are immense on mine as are Hernandez (Heunongas), Bos, Kaebi (Dagaka), Walton and some little CF called Diez...
 

Stevie Baby

Village Idiot
Well i dont really know what you're on about but playing the younger players in All cup games and off season games (preferably against big teams) does their stats the world of good.
 

Tum

Registered User
methical said:
does it
i tried it for a efw games and neve found anything extra
u should see my team without doing the training, especially vomme(van den borre)

I found trainning (during off-season) is very useful to boost-up our players stats, even for the old players....
You should do it. but......
Too bad, it's very time consuming !!!!
 

Slash

Bombay Shitehawk
I think the only way to get the most out of the players is to do the off-season training. I normally do the Training every week and have a game every second week in the off-season period. It seems to work well. Players seem to develop the most when they get a good post-match-rating against top opposition.
 

gollan

Registered User
It's very time consuming but it works. I train ALL my players throught ALL training (i.e. strikers doing defense, defenders doing dribble and passing). It works.
 

Slash

Bombay Shitehawk
gollan said:
It's very time consuming but it works. I train ALL my players throught ALL training (i.e. strikers doing defense, defenders doing dribble and passing). It works.

Yeah, I used to do it that way too but it takes so long! Thats the best way to go about it though. This is the way I normally do it

The corner kick training: All players

defence: Instead of training my forwards here all the time I only train the ones with a defence of 50 or lower. Once they get over 50 I leave it at that. The rest of the team gets defence training.

Passing: All Players

Attack: Forwards, Attacking MF, and Full-backs

Shooting: all players (except the goalies). I have a defender with 88 shot accuracy! (Tresone).

Dribbling: Midfield and forward players mostly but once they reach 90 I don't bother any more.

Free kicks: Two or three players so I have backup free takers.


A lot of the time I don't do all of that cos it just takes too long!!!!!
 

nacco

PES-master
It works a bit but you have to put in a lot of time before your players get any bit better. If you do the freekick for instance, your player gets a bit better. If you succesfully repeat the training a couple of times his freekick ability will rise further but there is a max on how often you can do it. It doesn't matter if you do it 4 times or a 100 times because in a week you have a max development. So if you have a lot of time succesfully finish every training 4 times and then start the next week.
 

gollan

Registered User
It's all in the graphs. You can see how much more will it take to develop the ability to its full potential. That's why all the young classic players are so monstrous if you get them at 17-18 and train them for 3-4 off seasons. I mean Cesc is a great player to get but Tresone, Baresi and a lot more are simply monstrous.
 

Slash

Bombay Shitehawk
Tresone.. OMG! He's good enough to play in any position. For me he has 89 attack, 88 shot acc., 87 shot technique and he's a defender (at 21 yrs old). His defence, balance, speed, accelleration are all in the 98-99 range. But I'm probably straying away from the topic here... sorry.
 

inf

Registered User
i played a season where i trained every offseason (played through 2011) and now i'm playing a season where i dont train and dont play any offseason matches.

while the benefits of training are obvious and bountiful, i find the actual training to be tedious and boring. i'm having much more fun this season just playing.

whatever tickles your pickle though
 

methical

as normal as norman bates
inf said:
i played a season where i trained every offseason (played through 2011) and now i'm playing a season where i dont train and dont play any offseason matches.

while the benefits of training are obvious and bountiful, i find the actual training to be tedious and boring. i'm having much more fun this season just playing.
i m the same, the training as long to do
i play matches but i do 1* 5 mins and double speed to get them out of the way and i train all my young players and if ur like me and wnt your top striker to be overall top scorer this helps.

i only train my favourate players in attack, shooting and dribbling and sometimes free kicks

i dont know what they all build up tho

i use it more if
i have a great player in my team and his stats start dropping like boa morte, the second his shot power went down to 79 i trained him and it went back up to 80

i had to train huth for dribbling coz i was using him as a dm and it wasnt completely working out
 

maznaz

Registered User
I notice some people say you can get more benefit completing training more than once per week with the same player. How come then when I tried completing the training with the same player once, leaving the training, then training again he gained NO experience the second time? There was no yellow bar over his name. Because of this I only train everyone at everything once per week in the close season and this still takes ages.
 

maznaz

Registered User
I know that I'm just suggesting that the limit is one training session per player per week per training discipline. I see no reason for it to be otherwise but if anybody has any proof (not conjecture) that this is not the case I'd love to hear it as I'm still relatively new to the game and have many ML campaigns ahead of me. Regards,
Maz
 
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