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More SPEED difference between players. More ACTIONS.

777888

Registered User
I play since WE4 and I enjoy the PACE of the game.

My suggestion: More SPEED difference between players. More ACTIONS.

The players movements and reactions are just way TOO SLOW and unrealistic in PES2010. The actions and movements of the players are like freezed and delayed.
Now most of the time of the short 10 min game is spent looking at those slow movements and unrealistic pace of football. When I play with CPU, in the entire second half, both teams cannot even take a single shot, looking at the stats, it's 0 shots and 0 shots on target. It is very hard to get over 10 shots in a single game. Too much passing and too little shooting is possible. Remember this is a 10 min game, not 90 min. WE ALL LOVE FAST-PACED & FLUID FOOTBALL in this short 10 min game. We just want to see more attacks, more actions, and more amazing goals.

Also, it is disappointing and ridiculous that there is ABSOLUTELY no speed difference between fast players like C. Ronaldo and other players with speed 60. I am exepecting some serious speed difference between them just as in real life. Now in PES this is just not realsitic at all. Speed is one of the most important thing in football, and PES you are eliminating this important factor and telling me this is realistic???

Players like Ronaldo and Messi run fast...they are just fast...it's the reality...and you'll see them running past 3-4 defenders all the time...see youtube if you don't believe me. They have speed 90+ in the game, and it is ridiculous to see someone with speed in the 60s ALWAYS catching up from behind every single time. Speed is very important in football, and it is reasonble to see some speed differences in players just like in real life. But that does not mean you can run past the whole team with one player. If it has happened to you in PES that your opponent can dribble past your whole team with ONE player in the previous PES games, then it just means that you have to improve your defensive abilities or change your tactics. It has never happened to me. The reflection of the speed difference between players is just perfect in PES6 and PES2008.

KONAMI should stick with what makes the PES series so great and amazing in the past (using PES6 as a prototype). PES2010 now is just exactly like Fifa; slow, boring, and unrealistic. I am a fan of WE/PES since WE4, but now i am absolutely disappointed with PES2010. It's the worst of all of the series. KONAMI you should stick with your own sytle!!!!
 

777888

Registered User
The terrible DELAY makes a lot of skill elements in the game useless.

Shooting and Passing responce time takes Forever!! Too SLOW response!!!

In PES2010 shooting and passing responce time takes forever! Its not an instant button press - execution issue! from the time you press the button until the player actually shoots or passes, there is an unexplained delay, having as a result the defender having the time to cut it or even steal the ball from the opponents feet! please fix with a patch or something ASAP!
 

jonny5985

Registered User
Me and Chiesa are working on an option file where we actually slow the game down by reducing passing speed and running speed. We've tested a few games and i can certainly say that the slower pace of the game basically gets rid of the button delay. I'm not sure why this is but the Football feels more fluid and much less frustrating. It's a little gem of a game on a slower speed.
 

777888

Registered User
The players movements and reactions are just way TOO SLOW and unrealistic in PES2010. The actions and movements of the players are like freezed and delayed.

WE ALL LOVE FAST-PACED & FLUID FOOTBALL in this short 10 min game. We just want to see more attacks, more actions, and more amazing goals.
 

Noffica

Registered User
I agree wholeheartedly with the thread-starter: when playing with Real Madrid, I CANNOT run past defenders with Ronaldo, Di Maria or Benzema; even in training, running with Ronaldo feels no different than running with Pepe.

I even didn't feel any joy when playing against Barcelona and seeing Pepe actually keeping pace with Messi and throw him off his shot.

This isn't a one-off situation, it is the norm, where the famed pacey players like Ronaldo, Messi, Di Maria, Nani, Pedro etc. are as slow as the defenders, where they cannot outrun any defender.
 

2good4U

Registered User
I agree mostly. I think PES 2011's pace difference is a lot better than 2010's. In 2010, you could take the ball from defence, start dribbling(with messi or agüero) and pass every player on your way, and score. I've had many friends going crazy at that goals. All of those goals were better than Top 10 slalom goals ever list:) This is more realistic now because actually Vidic has the mental knowledge and skills to stop(not catch but stop) Messi.

But you are right about something. Last year, every player was annoyed with choosing a team that has messi, ronaldo, agüero, walcott, lenon etc and only playing with that player and scoring 5-6 goals in a match. All of these players now say that we cant get past pepe with messi. They are nearly right. Pace difference is a little lower than reality now. Gap between the fastest and the slowest can be a little(veeeery little) wider. But it doesn't really need that much change as i said. Shortly, we don't want PES 2010 again. We want little improvement. I personally don't want to score 6 goals in 10 minutes(real 10 minutes) as 2010. 2 is ok;) I have to note that, when passing defenders with good teams and players, I have no problem now. You have to act more mental than physical(such as using L1+right analog). But still, improvement is needed.
 
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