First off let me just say am not the brightest and spelling check keeps sending me away from this page some give us a chance.Anyway had both the Ps3 and the 360 version of promtional games for about two weeks now and playing on 25 min matches on top player i hope my reviews help.
My view will be based on the single player gameplay because the online nees a whole new thread with its problems. Pes 2011 is the best football game in terms of SP i have ever played in terms of pure enjoyment.There i said it and thats coming from someone that could list its problems with 12 inch book and give you list of all the things my Fifa playtime does better than PES, and have played every football game known to man over last 16 years.
I will list 3 main problems and will mention the things which Pes 2011 does better than Fifa, but its not a fanboy attack because i only played Fifa for last two years and not Pes based on poor the games was after two weeks of renting them.
1) There is problem with the speed setting on both the PS3 and the 360 version. As i stated in an other post if you play on -1 speed like me, it does not matter what it says every once in a while your next game will increase to + something.
You can really see once you get use to the lower speed because the entire gameplay is effected. On -1 or even -2 for some the games feels great because the weight of the game is effected all over from the ball feeling heavier so shots don't feel like balloons, but feel more grounded and the animations looks more real.
The most important is the pass button which as more control with more time given to the power bar to decide if you want a weak pass or a heavy pass, so much harder i feel on + speed because it goes up to fast in reponce to the rest of the game. So thats why its easy to notice when the speed changes in some matches at the start by its self.This does'nt happen if you play on -2 as it nearly always stays on -2 feel but -1 speed bugged which i hope gets fixed.
Point 2, its been mention but the cursor switching is off. Yes i know how to defend and yes i know how to switch players. The problem is there on both assisted and semi and it can be countered on pro level or under but on top player in a pain. Especially when the other team uses fast passing the Cpu cannot keep up with what going on no matter how much you try to take control.
Combine this with amount of times were your centre backs walk to the side to create a gap in the middle, you need fast cursor change to combat this and it does not happen and there have been times were my cursor has gone onto my forwards and in somecases no one is highlighted. Yes you combat it but you will still loose many of goal because of the poor implemention of the cursor change.
My third is the cpu not realising when your players are standing in an offside postion. Not talking when they make runs but they just stand there not knowing were they are and on many ocaasions i have seen up to 7 players justing standing there with no attempt to watch the play and realise to move back. Woul'nt mind if one off but its to frequent not to be a bug with the cpu.
The gameplay is joy at its heart, and for the first time a football game allows me not to become board with long 25 min matches on top player. Its a combination of things which make it shine to keep the long term gameplay appeal going which i feel as not been done it a long time, and right now not even my beloved Pes 2 and 5 have matched.
Some have complained about lack of player movements and yes its not perfect, but given time you will come to realise that the movements while not perfect are great when they come. The reason why they look and feel great in Fifa becomes less of a enjoy the more you play Pes 2011 and you really begin to see why you you do'nt want you full backs running up the pitch every 10 seconds because on top player running out of poistion will cause problems which is true real football.
Against top teams its nightmare. With my experince with Fifa 10 my players could make runs without the Cpu for the other team not taking advantage of the space i just left, this applys to most positions except the front line.Now the front line because they are man marked and in many cases the backline is so strong when they make runs you need to be quick and when you pull off a wonderfull pass or through ball its pure joy.( on anything less than top player i found the through ball to easy for my liking)
Sorry but in real life chelsea's back line does let you run behind every 10 seconds and this game knows this, with players making runs and leaving their position when they feel it the right time.
Scoring is a joy once you master it and right now i feel it should be a little harder but only just. Some of the games i have played have been a joy to play and this game wants you to play on 25 mins or 30 min matches to show what it does. Go one nil down and watch the other team drop to the 18 yard line and you spend every which formation and tatic trying to break it down while the do quick counters or watch yourself get battered because the other team uses different tatics on the fly is just a joy to play against .
In all my time last year on Fifa cannot remember making a sliding tackle once because the gameplay allowed me not to bother with positioning or distance from the man on the ball.Quick press of the pressure button and bingo an animation of you going into the player did not matter what angle or distance. Lost count on Pes this year of how many times i haved need to to slide tackle because my angles were all wrong to force the pressue button.
Yes sometimes it easy to slide tackle but the difference between the two is that Pes forces you to choose the sliding tackle as an option were as My last two years of Fifa never feel once felt i ever needed to use it. A great touch by Pes to show the art of football as a game without the ball as with it.
I could go on all day why this game really is a joy. For some the all the bad things might be to much at the moment and i wish which Pes would stop putting all the daft things it does so in your face to stop people really loving this game.
Got to hand it to Fifa they cover up any cracks in the long term gameplay with wonderfull in you face football which car'nt be faulted not even after 40 games.I just know that if you forced every football fan to play two seasons of ML and 2 of manager mode this year i truly believe that 90% will get very borded of Manager mode because at its heart Fifa and the gameplay become very old very fast and that why it relys so much on it online at it does it really well.
Final words and sorry if to long and to many spelling mistakes but on the single player gameplay this games looks to have made the right changes to make sure that your playing matches right through to 2012 without ever thinking enough is enough. Just hope they sort the online out because right now it plays awful and the match making is the worst i have ever played.
My view will be based on the single player gameplay because the online nees a whole new thread with its problems. Pes 2011 is the best football game in terms of SP i have ever played in terms of pure enjoyment.There i said it and thats coming from someone that could list its problems with 12 inch book and give you list of all the things my Fifa playtime does better than PES, and have played every football game known to man over last 16 years.
I will list 3 main problems and will mention the things which Pes 2011 does better than Fifa, but its not a fanboy attack because i only played Fifa for last two years and not Pes based on poor the games was after two weeks of renting them.
1) There is problem with the speed setting on both the PS3 and the 360 version. As i stated in an other post if you play on -1 speed like me, it does not matter what it says every once in a while your next game will increase to + something.
You can really see once you get use to the lower speed because the entire gameplay is effected. On -1 or even -2 for some the games feels great because the weight of the game is effected all over from the ball feeling heavier so shots don't feel like balloons, but feel more grounded and the animations looks more real.
The most important is the pass button which as more control with more time given to the power bar to decide if you want a weak pass or a heavy pass, so much harder i feel on + speed because it goes up to fast in reponce to the rest of the game. So thats why its easy to notice when the speed changes in some matches at the start by its self.This does'nt happen if you play on -2 as it nearly always stays on -2 feel but -1 speed bugged which i hope gets fixed.
Point 2, its been mention but the cursor switching is off. Yes i know how to defend and yes i know how to switch players. The problem is there on both assisted and semi and it can be countered on pro level or under but on top player in a pain. Especially when the other team uses fast passing the Cpu cannot keep up with what going on no matter how much you try to take control.
Combine this with amount of times were your centre backs walk to the side to create a gap in the middle, you need fast cursor change to combat this and it does not happen and there have been times were my cursor has gone onto my forwards and in somecases no one is highlighted. Yes you combat it but you will still loose many of goal because of the poor implemention of the cursor change.
My third is the cpu not realising when your players are standing in an offside postion. Not talking when they make runs but they just stand there not knowing were they are and on many ocaasions i have seen up to 7 players justing standing there with no attempt to watch the play and realise to move back. Woul'nt mind if one off but its to frequent not to be a bug with the cpu.
The gameplay is joy at its heart, and for the first time a football game allows me not to become board with long 25 min matches on top player. Its a combination of things which make it shine to keep the long term gameplay appeal going which i feel as not been done it a long time, and right now not even my beloved Pes 2 and 5 have matched.
Some have complained about lack of player movements and yes its not perfect, but given time you will come to realise that the movements while not perfect are great when they come. The reason why they look and feel great in Fifa becomes less of a enjoy the more you play Pes 2011 and you really begin to see why you you do'nt want you full backs running up the pitch every 10 seconds because on top player running out of poistion will cause problems which is true real football.
Against top teams its nightmare. With my experince with Fifa 10 my players could make runs without the Cpu for the other team not taking advantage of the space i just left, this applys to most positions except the front line.Now the front line because they are man marked and in many cases the backline is so strong when they make runs you need to be quick and when you pull off a wonderfull pass or through ball its pure joy.( on anything less than top player i found the through ball to easy for my liking)
Sorry but in real life chelsea's back line does let you run behind every 10 seconds and this game knows this, with players making runs and leaving their position when they feel it the right time.
Scoring is a joy once you master it and right now i feel it should be a little harder but only just. Some of the games i have played have been a joy to play and this game wants you to play on 25 mins or 30 min matches to show what it does. Go one nil down and watch the other team drop to the 18 yard line and you spend every which formation and tatic trying to break it down while the do quick counters or watch yourself get battered because the other team uses different tatics on the fly is just a joy to play against .
In all my time last year on Fifa cannot remember making a sliding tackle once because the gameplay allowed me not to bother with positioning or distance from the man on the ball.Quick press of the pressure button and bingo an animation of you going into the player did not matter what angle or distance. Lost count on Pes this year of how many times i haved need to to slide tackle because my angles were all wrong to force the pressue button.
Yes sometimes it easy to slide tackle but the difference between the two is that Pes forces you to choose the sliding tackle as an option were as My last two years of Fifa never feel once felt i ever needed to use it. A great touch by Pes to show the art of football as a game without the ball as with it.
I could go on all day why this game really is a joy. For some the all the bad things might be to much at the moment and i wish which Pes would stop putting all the daft things it does so in your face to stop people really loving this game.
Got to hand it to Fifa they cover up any cracks in the long term gameplay with wonderfull in you face football which car'nt be faulted not even after 40 games.I just know that if you forced every football fan to play two seasons of ML and 2 of manager mode this year i truly believe that 90% will get very borded of Manager mode because at its heart Fifa and the gameplay become very old very fast and that why it relys so much on it online at it does it really well.
Final words and sorry if to long and to many spelling mistakes but on the single player gameplay this games looks to have made the right changes to make sure that your playing matches right through to 2012 without ever thinking enough is enough. Just hope they sort the online out because right now it plays awful and the match making is the worst i have ever played.
