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Official PES3 Impressions Thread - Tell us what you think...

gaza1725

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baggie-1 said:
PESFan Review:

Pro Evolution Soccer 3

Publisher: Konami
Developer: KCETyo
Formats: PS2 & PC CD-Rom (confirmed)

“Some people are on the pitch; they think its all over, it is now” proclaimed Kenneth Wolstenholme back in 1966 as England went on to World Cup Glory.

The Official release of Pro Evolution Soccer 3 on October 17th will ensure that it is truly all over for any potential pretenders to the Football Gaming throne and will no doubt add many more admirers to an already highly respected title.

PES Ultras and Aficionados will notice the variety of improvements straight away and will undoubtedly be highly impressed with the accomplished work of KCETs finest.

Using the FIFpro license once again Konami have ensured that many real footballers appear in game and this provides that extra element of realism. Some see a potential setback in the fact that the official kits and licenses aren’t universal within the game; others though will see this as an opportunity to express some creative talent and customise the game, as they want it. Nearly everything can be edited on players including hairstyles and boots, whilst the Kit Editor and Badge Editor allow you to produce highly accurate recreations of your favourite club sides crest or third strip.

For European fans of Pro Evolution Soccer the usual language variations apply with specific commentators and co-presenters being used for the relevant language.
Most notably, Konami have opted to use former World Cup Winner and French International Stephane Gui’varch for the French version, whilst followers of La Liga will recognise Marcas Guillem Balague and Swansea striker Roberto Martinez on the Spanish version.

The game play has been improved and tweaked since the release of its Japanese counterpart, Winning Eleven 7, in early August. The extra time between the release of WE7 and PES3 has ensured that the European version of the game is one step ahead and that any little bugs have been ironed out for its transfer to PAL. It would be wrong though to assume that the game is a straight switch from NTSC to European compatible format as PES3 is a much better game and the extra time spent on its development really shows.

The Aesthetics & overall look of the game has also been improved to give Pro Evolution Soccer 3 a visually stunning finish. With 80% of the in-game animation being renewed for the hat-trick title it is clearly evident that this is the most detailed and definitive game in the history of the series.

The New Graphics Engine used by the development team provides Pro Evolution Soccer 3 with an enormous amount of detail meaning that players not only look realistic but their movement is also extremely lifelike down to the smallest detail. For example, facial expressions change and reactions of players vary depending on the situation giving them the ability to express pleasure, joy or dicontent.

The popular Master League has been improved by giving us 4 divisions instead of the usual 3 and also providing the chance to take part in European competition mid season thanks to an ever increasing number of club teams available to choose from.

The computer AI within the PES3 has also been improved to create a more competitive game as they can adapt to your specific style of play. This means that variation of players’ tactics and strategies is even more important than ever. Attacking players can now also drag defenders away to create space and offer other opportunities to score. Skills and tricks have also been added and can be performed to perfection by players with higher ratings thus recreating the general balance and diversity of the footballing world. So, someone like Zinedine Zidane or Luis Figo is more likely to successfully use the 360’ spin than someone with less ability. Shooting has been vastly improved and players are now capable of hitting a stunning volley or a powerful first time strike. Goalkeepers are more animated and harder to beat and they are capable of producing some superb saves. Injured players are now bandaged up to allow them to continue to play but the more seriously hurt are carried off on a stretcher. Dribbling is smoother and that jinking run can now allow you to beat 2-3 players in a confined space.

The general appearance of the menus is a lot more simplistic and allows for easier manoeuvrability around the various screens and subsections of each mode or options within the game.

The introduction of the PES Shop allows players to buy extra features thus placing more emphasis on the result of every game that is played. It is therefore quite important to win matches as points are gained for victories in all games ranging from Friendlies to the Konami Cup. The in-game currency, known as PES, can be traded for new stadiums, more players, additional teams and even classic style shorts and a variety of hairstyles.

The addition of several new stadiums such as the Red Cauldron (Anfield) and the Blue Bridge (Stamford Bridge) provides even more arenas for players to display their skills. The crowd too play a much more important part in match proceedings and will vent their discontent at a losing streak by staying away meaning that your home ground could appear half empty.
Bigger and more successful teams will also see more supporters turn out to watch their matches in comparison to a smaller club. The fans on the terraces now also get more enthusiastic as the play approaches goal and they also change clothes depending on the weather.

Pitches and Conditions now play a bigger part within PES3 aswell. Some pitches play faster than others and this helps provide end to end high tempo matches, others though are slow meaning that a more methodical build up takes precedence as the ball wont just zip around the turf. Playing in the Rain is also a challenge as the conditions become more unpredictable and this too slows the game down. These coupled with the differing playing styles of each Club & National Team help to ensure the realism within the modern game of football is transfered succesfully onto the PS2.

There are now sixteen different Referees to choose from ensuring a different style to every game. Some now play the advantage rather than blow for a foul whilst others are not so lenient and have no hesitation in producing a yellow card or sending a player off. The variety in the styles of referees now also ensures that all decisions are not 100% accurate and that a foul may not necessarily be a foul and that disallowed goal may not have actually been offside.

The differing skill levels ranging from 1* beginner to Extreme mode provide a greater challenge for the Established Star & Youth Player alike and help to ensure the longevity of what should become a classic title. All these excellent features help to portray a more realistic simulation of the game of Football.

KCET have successfully risen to the annual challenge laid down by the FIFA series and TIF (This is Football) by providing us with the finest football game to appear on any format in the history of gaming. Pro Evolution Soccer 3 yet again sits proudly at the pinnacle of the footballing world and is unlikely to be moved by any similar game in the near future. The kick about down the park will be now be replaced with a kick about around the living room courtesy of Konami.

This release sets new standards for the footballing genre that will be very hard to better and this is without a doubt a must purchase title for all fans of football on the PS2 & PC.


Rating: 10/10
Price: £39.99 RRP *
Players: 1-8
Released: 17th October 2003

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eddyedwards

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I've got PES3 early as I am in the industry. I also have WE7 and in my opinion - It is MUCH better than PES2 - MUCH more realistic with some great goals and animations - unfortunately I have gone back to WE7 as the whole feel and pace is MUCH BETTER. Sorry.
 

Zygalski

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The pic is called an Avatar and you can select one by clicking on 'user cp' at the top of the page.

If you need to add to a message, please edit your first post to add to it rather than reposting.
 

daveyboy

Registered User
sound problems

been playing my pes3 for a day now and the sound is starting to annoy me. the crowd noise deafens out the ref's whistle and commentry,i tried turning off the commentry but it's the same, any one got this problem....also the game dont feel so solid as pes2,maybe it's becase i have played it for 11 months none stop and the new pes3 takes getting used to.
 

Zezu

Registered User
I've been a long time viewer of these forums but never posted...until now.

This morning I chanced my lucky and went into the town of Glasgow to see if any shops might have been selling it a day early. First shop I entered...I left with two new copies of PES3 (one for me, one for a mate) was well chuffed.

ANYWAY, to my impressions.

So far, having only played 2 games lol, it's been different class. It's definately a lot slicker, and any football brains that play it can actually pick out passes a lot better than in most games. I play football myself, and often want to pass the ball into a bit of space only for the player to shove it the other way or something, but PES3 allows you a bit more freedom in where you want the ball to go.

The player animations are really really good, I done the Brazilian flick and was instantly chuffed as I have tried to do it the whole time with the demo to no avail.

I never played WE7, so I don't know how it ranks against that, but it's definately better than PES2 so far, and I don't see how it won't in the long run. As it seems harder and a bigger challenge than it's older brother.

So far, I went Real Madrid and played against Arsenal, the Gunners coming through with a 1-0 victory, but that was forgotten as I went England and defeated Sweden 3-2 (Imbrahimovic is good) with my first ever PES3 goal being scored by none other than Mr. Wayne Rooney, another record to put on his mantlepiece :)
 

Big Brown Bear

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Just got it the day-what a game.

Been trying to do rasping drives all day-i haven't had much luck but my mate has just scored 2 of them. Cracking stuff
 

Harry-Kewell

Registered User
I got my PES3 today. It's brilliant, everything has been improved. The graphics look amazing. I am finding the game hard though, especially when it comes to scoring, even on 3 stars. I've played 4 or 5 exhibition games and the most amounts of goals I've managed to score in a single game so far is only 2. However, I think that's a good thing. It's going to take some time getting use to it but trust me, you won't be disappointed.

Liverpool Fans: There's no Finnan, Le Tallec, Pongolle in the Liverpool team but the likes of Arphexhad, Heggem and Diomede still remain. :(

Oh and the licensed teams look wicked, if only Konami had licence for all the clubs.
 

Frenzy

Registered User
yip i have to agree, I been playin pes3 for the past few days
and as a liverpool fan i was a little dissapointed that some of the transfares havent been made, but the game is sweet and they have taken out the take the piss dribble, so goals require planning and a bit of imagination

my only negatives are ... i can't get the commentator to say Hamann, he just says his shirt number... in a create a player option his name dont appear on the commentry :( probably dosey old me can't find it :(

the other thing is i unlocked the double speed option and was nearly sick :) motion sickness is a bad thing

So overall im happy the flick the ball trick is just class, Owen looks as deadly as ever in the game, and in my current master league with liverpool....
Merseyside blue (everton) look as if they are gettin relegated
what more could a football fan whant :)
 

a121509

Registered User
My copy arrived this morning; i had to have a quick game which made me late for work, but you have to have priorities in life haha.
Yeah, I've only played the one game but i really like it - the control feels just a bit more refined than before, it just feels so much slicker. Nice to see that they haven't really changed the controls, as they were fine before and it gives you a chance to get stuck in quickly.

I'm not too bothered about superficialities like commentary, but even I noticed that it has improved dramatically and is actually quite good IMO.

The general presentation is more refined and reminds me very much of ISS evo 2, which is a good thing in my book.

Now i can't wait to go home and play some more!
 

wrathchild_uk

Registered User
I brought Pes3 yesterday the game is very good much better than pes2 however, my game does have a slight stutter which is really anoying. Some of the team updates aint 2 bad either but the good thing is that it aint 2 hard 2 get 10000 points ive allready got 3000 since yesterday!
 
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PJE

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Outstanding. There's not much more to say really!

First thing I did was to correct the Spurs' players names, then head to the ol' Master League...

First game of PES3 ever (apart from the demo) and I beat PES Utd 3-1. Great, I think, though I hope it's not going to be too easy...

Silly me. I've won a couple of others 1-0, but lost the rest. The whole stamina thing really kills you - does anybody know whether or not you can help the tiredness by not running around as much, or is it something that will happen even if you're finger's glued to R1?

Top game. Top, top game.
 

Daipac

Registered User
Got it yesterday ! At first I didn't know what to think as it seemed to be slower than the demo ? Played my first game, Liverpool vs. Saudi Arabia on * difficulty and scored 4 goals in the first 15 mins so I turned it off as it was too easy and tried an International Cup on *** with Brazil, lost 2-1 to Scotland, beat Egypt 3-0 and lost 2-1 to Greece ! It is hard to score and your players hardly seem to get any space !

Played a friendly last night, Brazil vs. Argentina on *** and won 3-0, Ronaldo hat-trick ! Some class through balls from Ronaldinho too !

All in all the game is class ! Better than PES2 in every way but it is hard to score I have found so far. Maybe I am just rubbish at the game !

The Liverpool team and some of the other team rosters really annoy me sometimes tho ! Kewell is at the 'pool but so are Heggem, Arphexad, Diomede, etc. as was said above. This can be sorted but Le Tallec and Pongolle will need to be created, at least you can import Finnan from Ireland when you unlock that part of the game.

Think I am going to have to invest in an X-port but with so many option files flying around, which one do you pick ? Which one is usually the best in past version of PES ?

One quick question if someone can answer it, what is the criteria for earning PES points ?
 

Zygalski

Administrator
PES3 Option files will be available in the Editing section. Usually the latest one will be the better one. I'll be letting everyone know exactly what is available on each one.

Earn PES points by winning all the cups (once each) and complete all the challenge training exercises.
 

Big Brown Bear

Registered User
After much play last night i noticed something abot the handballs that was contrary to what i had heard before. In every review i've read it was said that as far as the reviewer was concerned handballs only happened to the attacking team. Last nite, my defenders were twice done for handball in the samw game. This happened just outside the 18 yard line. I can't wait for the tv to hear me scream when i give a penalty away from it. I can't really complain can i? i mean, all for realism and all

Does this happen to any1 else? I mean does the opposition give free kicks away near their 18, or do your defenders do it?
 
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a121509

Registered User
PJE said:
Outstanding. There's not much more to say really!

First thing I did was to correct the Spurs' players names, then head to the ol' Master League...

First game of PES3 ever (apart from the demo) and I beat PES Utd 3-1. Great, I think, though I hope it's not going to be too easy...

Silly me. I've won a couple of others 1-0, but lost the rest. The whole stamina thing really kills you - does anybody know whether or not you can help the tiredness by not running around as much, or is it something that will happen even if you're finger's glued to R1?

Top game. Top, top game.

If you have your players sprint around with r1 then they will definitely get tired, it's been that way since ISS evo. This helps to prevent people from using speed, rather than skill, to win a game.

Mind you, certain teams are fitter than others so you can get away with it more.

It's sensible to use R1 sparingly rather than all the time.
 

Zygalski

Administrator
In ML mode, player stamina will go down eventually and the best way to restore it is to rest them occasionally - I do this anyway when they are on poor form arrows. Having a large squad can help with stamina problems too but it will be difficult for the first season since you can't buy anyone till the end of the first season.
 
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