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Oh Konami, what have you done!?

blackillusion

Registered User
piss off and write in another thread that already complains about pes5 theres enough of them.....everywhere i turn there is a new thread about what someone doesnt like, go and continue one thats already started.

Use the search n00b
 

Fab

Registered User
sgb_sailor said:
This game is just plain awful!
How could Konami screw up the greatest football game on earth so badly? Pro Evo 4 was perfect - all they had to do was put in more teams, refine the Master League, and add online gameplay.
Instead, they've gone and turned it into real football, and that is what makes it so bad.

1/ Having free kicks every nano second may be realistic, but it's not fun. Games are MEANT to be fun!
I am not sure why you are looking for a football which is not realistic. The majority of PES fans want the game to become realistic.

2/ Free kick taking is impossible unless your sole aim is to give possession to the other player.
Now Kev is right on this one, you must be poor at the game. Because free kicks really are not that difficult, all you need is practise.

3/ No matter how much you press R2, every single player takes at least half hour to bring the ball under control when they receive it.
I am not sure where you come up with this idea because its not true. This have something to do with you being poor at the game.

4/ It's now actually impossible to sprint away from any player. No way should Dennis Bergkamp be able to keep up with Roberto Carlos. That's just ridiculous.
Sometimes in the game this does happen, must be something to do with the green stamina bar, roberto carlos does mroe running then bergkamp therefor his bar would be lower causing him to lose energy to run fast. Try a test then, start a game, give carlos the ball and run with it, get your other mate to control Bergkamp and try catch up, I think you will find he wont be able to.

5/ It's way too difficult to defend and cut off supply lines because the AI is so bad that the players run around like headless chickens. I mean, if I can see a winger running behind the defence the bloody wing back should go with him! It's not rocket science is it!!!!!
Your defending needs to improve then. Try looking at the radar, if you see the computer looking to pass to a winger, then control the defender marking the winger and cut out the pass, thats not rocket science is it!!

6/ There should be no need for super cancel. Just give us control of the player we're controlling in the first place instead of having him run in a scripted line. THIS IS MEANT TO BE FUN...
Super cancel was introduced before PES5. If you ask any good PES player, they will tell you that they use super cancel, very effective and realistic also.

7/ Penalties... oh dear!! I know it's a lottery but come on! I press the button only and sometimes the ball just balloons over the bar. I mean... HOW EXACTLY!!?
Always been like this, they should add some sort of disguised power bar for penalties.

8/ Why is it that if you shoot with half the bar filled it'll trickle harmlessly to the keeper sometimes, and others it'll rocket through the air at high speed!?? How are you supposed to judge it then?????
You only notice this when you first start to play the game. When you play the game more, you get use to it and judge the ball with the power bar with ease. The position of your player, bounce and speed of the ball before you hit it really makes a big difference, realism.

9/ Oh dear god, why does the game sometimes not play a crucial pass when I've pressed the button, yet when I've pressed X accidently it'll happily knock the ball into touch EVERY DAMN TIME!!!
The computer is programmed to perform a through pass when the triangle button is pressed, you cannot blame anyone except yourself for not passing earlier or pressing the button harder you pansy.

10/ If I wanted to take part in a stop-start, no shooting scrappy game of football I'd join a Sunday League thanks!
Pass the ball around. The speed of the game is judged by the way YOU play.

11/ This is supposed to be football by the way, not pinball everytime you touch the god-forsaken ball.
Same as answer to 10.

Arrrggghhhh, this game is sooooo good, Best £30 I've spent.
REALISM = FUN.
CREATIVITY = FUN.
:rolleyes:
 

Menaged

Registered User
point no. 4: use super sprint (although the stamina bar also affects).
other points: what fab said
 

g33k

Registered User
Some of his points do stand, such as there being too many fouls, which isn't realistic incidentally. Running next to players is impossible now. The lack of speed differentation is also true. They didn't fix the goalies, they're still shit. If I use X in a free kick half the time the ball is passed directly into the wall. My players position themselves terribly, standing behind defenders contently. They also run 10 feet offside sometimes, like they're playing in the Mentally Retarded World Cup.

This is a one sided argument obviously, and I can enjoy PES5, but it seems to have more niggles than PES4.
 

Stephen753

Registered User
i aggree totally, and what about

1... players with the ball having the turning ability of a scania
2... players able to pass through the eye of a needle but when they get in the opponents half, even with 4 strikers to 2 defenders, they still pass the ball to the opposition
3...why i can be brasil and only beat latvia 1 - 0 coz and then play italy and only beat them 1 -0 ? hows that realistic?
4...why when the cpu tackles my player and shoulder barges him he has the momentum of a small planet and sends my player flying with no free kick and when i tackle the opponent my player still falls over
5..why does every game end 1 0 to me? when i have an average of 15 shots on goal, and my players have a habit of missing open goals on the 6 yard line they still miss?
6..i loved pro evo 4, ive been playin 5 since it came out solid everyday and it makes me SO angry coz i just dont ENJOY the game. WHY THE HELL cant konami make decent AI and not have to resort to cheating to beat me? i play on 6 stars and i rarely loose coz the computer isnt good enough to score past me, but my players never seem good enough to pass or score EASY goals so games end up 0 - 0 and i just turn the twatting game off. again
 

cooperd1

Registered User
David P said:
Sure thing Matey if your planning on buying it anyway, you would have opened your walet and parted with the £30.00 when it hit the shelves.

Shame on you!

i didnt have the money......and still dont...maybe ill get it christmas....

and i cant believe people are still using the you arent good at the game argument.......they're is probably a decent chance these people could beat you at the game, just avoiding the bad points of the game.
 

Stephen753

Registered User
why do people say "learn to play the game" and "give it time" ? ive been playing sinse it came out. if my players miss easy goals and i draw 0 -0 i doesnt matter if ive been playing for 2 weeks or 2 decades, if a player is standing in front of an open net he SCORES, he doesnt pass it back to the keeper is blast it wide!!!
 

wrigh2uk

Registered User
sgb_sailor said:
Instead, they've gone and turned it into real football,

 

Jake Small

Registered User
nxud-pacv-em2x said:
I have the problem that I can't play pes 5 online with my PC because I don't know where I can find a password?

Hahahahahahahhahahah

*breathe*

First of all, you put your REG KEY as your forum name dude; this is not Konami's website, you don't need to give us your reg key. Lol.

Second of all, the reg key you're using is the pirate one that is all over the godamned net! Good job on downloading the game for free; now if you want to play it online, you will need to buy it and get yourself a unique reg key (and don't rush over here and tell us what it is?) and then you use that to register and choose yourself a password to play online. :p
 

Deniro UK

Registered User
Right, I havent got the game yet, I'm getting it for Xmas, but I have been playing the Demo alot recently.

At first I thought it was abit poo to be honest, but when I started playing the ball around the park and being more patent the game seems alot better. You cant take on the whole team like you could on PES4, thats one difference that you have to contend with. Also the game is alot slower, and takes time to get used to but when you learn to master it, you will not be disapointed and the game becomes another great PES :)

So to all you PES5 haters who complain about it, give it time, like I said when you learn to master it you wont be disappointed
 

cooperd1

Registered User
i took on the whole team a couple of times...with some crappy defender, that i bought on the newcomers bit in the ML. :)
 

Davinche

International Player
sgb_sailor said:
Some of you just don't get it!!

"You're not very good at it so you complain because you can't play it".
WRONG.
I'm rather good at it, but each of my 11 points still stand.

Yes, because it's so close to real football, that DOES make it rather a step back from Pro Evo 4.
Look at the Premiership... there's a foul called everytime a player even looks at another. Stop-start stop-start. It's realistic, but it's no fun, it's not entertainment. Pro Evo 4 didn't have these faults and was therefore a better game.

The ball pinballs all over the place whenever 2 players are involved in challenges. Pro Evo 4 didn't have it this bad and was therefore a better game.

If you don't use super cancel then you won't win. Period! Pro Evo 4 didn't need you to rely on super cancel - the players ran where they were supposed to and was therefore a better game.

Are you seeing a pattern here!!?????

What a load of bull shit.
 

JimMitchell

Registered User
sgb_sailor said:
Some of you just don't get it!!

"You're not very good at it so you complain because you can't play it".
WRONG.
I'm rather good at it, but each of my 11 points still stand.

Yes, because it's so close to real football, that DOES make it rather a step back from Pro Evo 4.
Look at the Premiership... there's a foul called everytime a player even looks at another. Stop-start stop-start. It's realistic, but it's no fun, it's not entertainment. Pro Evo 4 didn't have these faults and was therefore a better game.

The ball pinballs all over the place whenever 2 players are involved in challenges. Pro Evo 4 didn't have it this bad and was therefore a better game.

If you don't use super cancel then you won't win. Period! Pro Evo 4 didn't need you to rely on super cancel - the players ran where they were supposed to and was therefore a better game.

Are you seeing a pattern here!!?????


That's bollocks. I don't use Super Cancel and I do very well on 6* thanks very much. And as for the fouls thing, I hardly give any away unless it is intentional or i am too lazy or impatient to win the ball back fairly. I haven't had a single player booked this season either. So you can play without fouling if you know how.
 

Ray_H

Registered User
i must say the idea of super cancel is total shit. i shouldnt need to press 2 buttons to get control of my player, i should already have that control. when your players running left and you press right he should move to the right, without having to press r1 and r2.
 

JimMitchell

Registered User
Stephen753 said:
why do people say "learn to play the game" and "give it time" ? ive been playing sinse it came out. if my players miss easy goals and i draw 0 -0 i doesnt matter if ive been playing for 2 weeks or 2 decades, if a player is standing in front of an open net he SCORES, he doesnt pass it back to the keeper is blast it wide!!!


Ok, so your team in real life has never had a game where they had oodles of chances and yet didnt score? Get real. I accept that at first 0-0 games are very common-place, but this decreases with time. Also, examin the Premiership games most week, how often do teams score more then 3 goals in a game? Not very is the answer. In fact, the average in a game(never mind 1 team) is less than 3, so it's silly if you are crying cos you dont win 7-0 all the time like on PES4. Strikers fuck up a lot in real life dude.
 

JimMitchell

Registered User
cooperd1 said:
how come everyone cares so much that people dont like the game?

it is only a game....

Not so much that they don't like it. More that people are claiming that things can't be done and you CAN win without using Super Cancel and you CAN go through a game without giving away millions of fouls. They can not like it if they please but don't try to tell me that the game is unfair and that it can't be beaten etc,...and also people need to get out of the mentality that says 1-0 wins aren't still wins, but that you have to score 15 goals a game. It's silly.
 

kati_yilan

Registered User
some one red card sgb_sailor for a waste of time and all those others who have complained about pes5, annoying FIFA loving EA pets
 

Davinche

International Player
cooperd1 said:
how come everyone cares so much that people dont like the game?

it is only a game....

I think the real question is why do people come to pes forums to slag the game. And the fact that they have to start a new thread every FUCKING TIME
 
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