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People Using 4 Bar assistance in Online Multiplayer

tony_dudz

Registered User
It's a f**king joke. They just pressed traingle or L1 and triangle the whole match and the ball goes straight through, every fucking time. It's becoming boring and i come up against one of these f**king pricks 2/3 games. Konami's filters are useless. Need to sort it out big time if they want a long term following online. Anyone else coming up against these douche-bags?
 

mahanddeem

Registered User
It's a f**king joke. They just pressed traingle or L1 and triangle the whole match and the ball goes straight through, every fucking time. It's becoming boring and i come up against one of these f**king pricks 2/3 games. Konami's filters are useless. Need to sort it out big time if they want a long term following online. Anyone else coming up against these douche-bags?

don't play online , case close
 

tony_dudz

Registered User
What a stupid reply? One of the biggest parts of the game i paid 35 quid for....... yeah, i'm not gona play online
 

onebelo

Registered User
but he has a point. The barca muppets and the Real whores will never change.

its a stupid point. dont play online, really, thats his advice?? what an idiot

op is right, online is broke because of this.. and its nothing like playing against the high rated teams, you can still have a competitive & fun match as long as your on the same settings.. i play manual and maybe 1 in every 6 games i actually face a manual player, for those 5 games inbetween its stupid twats thorugh ball spamming the whole game... the filter does nothing. let me search for manual players, if you cant find one dont automatically match me up with an assisted player you absolute idiots, just let me search again

youd think konami wouldve looked at this (well..) after introducing this manual system, tweaking it after each demo, saying in interviews how realistic it makes the game and obviously the general promotion of 'full manual control' everywhere including the damn box art

another stupid thing konami have done for pes 2013, add it to the list folks :huh:
 

ade1984

Registered User
the same for me i play fully manual with zero pass assistance and the filters dont seem to work at all. these guys can hit a cross field pass and land it on the players laces, i just dont understand how somebody can be getting satisfaction from that.

it would be nice to be able to play all my matches against fully manual players, i have had a few games and you can really see a large range of passing and a more enjoyable game. these are the games i dont mind losing because of the enjoyment and respect i have for the other player also using fully manual.

i do think that once people, who play fully manual, become more accustomed to the controls and more acurrate with their passing they will be able to beat a player using 4 bar assistance, because of a wider passing range and more possibilities of finding an opening.
 

onebelo

Registered User
i do think that once people, who play fully manual, become more accustomed to the controls and more acurrate with their passing they will be able to beat a player using 4 bar assistance, because of a wider passing range and more possibilities of finding an opening.

thats completely untrue. in both pes and fifa manual players are always at a disadvantage to assisted players, because assisted makes the game easier. simple. just do 50yard through balls and shoot from anywhere within 30yards and youll score goals

the more difficult to master settings should reward you once you master them. this is not the case with football games, and thats the problem
 

ade1984

Registered User
we will see, looking foward to the challenge though.

Even though i am losing about 50 percent of my games, it still doesnt deter me from from playing fully manual.

Maybe we could set up a community league for only fully manual players only.
 

onebelo

Registered User
it doesnt, really? arent you getting annoyed of playing assisted players? ive given up on mlo because its just that bad for me

also are you on xbox ?
 

marc110

Registered User
It's a f**king joke. They just pressed traingle or L1 and triangle the whole match and the ball goes straight through, every fucking time. It's becoming boring and i come up against one of these f**king pricks 2/3 games. Konami's filters are useless. Need to sort it out big time if they want a long term following online. Anyone else coming up against these douche-bags?


i used 4 star and i have not won a game online , so not everyone should be stopped


i would use full manual all the time if they added the arrow to the full manual i do hold L2 and shoot but not pass often
 

ade1984

Registered User
not as much as i thought it would, i find it very rewarding when build up play pays off. that probably keeps my interest going.

i tend to switch between mlo and ml troughout the year.

i havent spent much time on master league, are you enjoying it? Have the new changes implemented into ml this year enhanced or ruined the mode.

im on xbox.
 

onebelo

Registered User
i just lose any sense of reward when my hard-worked, careful built passing attack breaks down... only to have my oppenent play a pinpoint pass 40yards to his forward, pingpong it a few times, and then shoot from long range

nah havent played any ml, but i dont need to to know the changes are not what i like.. put it this way.... i recently unlocked a banana to reduce my fatigue, and an ultrasound machine to reduce my injuries

add my gt if you want some manual games: theSteeeeels
 

ade1984

Registered User
i understand it can be very fustrating at times, i have been swearing a lot more than usual at my opponents.

thanks man, ill add you, mine is BlestPlane896
 

tony_dudz

Registered User
Just got home from College and gona give it another try at finding me a player on the same controls as mine. Wish me luck. This should be easily patched as its a simple thing. Matching two players. Maybe similar means somehthing different, maybe a 1 bar difference but surely not three or four :realmad:
 

tony_dudz

Registered User
Update

Put my defensive line to 0 and so far it seems to work. In my first match today i played a guy who only used triangle and L1 triangle and didnt take a touch, just passed it all the time. He lead 1-0 at half time using that c**t tactic so i decided to put my line to 0 and low and behold.......... he failed almost every through ball and i ended up winning 2-1. Serves him right hahaha
 

BuddhaBone

Registered User
Put my defensive line to 0 and so far it seems to work. In my first match today i played a guy who only used triangle and L1 triangle and didnt take a touch, just passed it all the time. He lead 1-0 at half time using that c**t tactic so i decided to put my line to 0 and low and behold.......... he failed almost every through ball and i ended up winning 2-1. Serves him right hahaha

Last year I used to play on 1 bar assist and I started out like that this year. But after a short phase of success I just switched back to 2 bars because of the lack of a regional filter which makes me end up playing against the other end of the world and so bad connections. Offline against the cpu its pure fun to play full manual but the online delay makes it nearly impossible to perfectly position, time and power ones actions. This is so clear in defence where one can easily intercept pass-throughs when not touching any defender at all: On full manual your defender tends to be wrong in one of the 3 factors. He's ill positioned, lets the ball through, even runs in the wrong direction sometimes. A little assistance is therefore needed online. Without having the cpu do the little dirty work in those time-critical situations where the scripting of the game supercedes my manual input, the power of manual control is nothing when you actually you can't control it - constrained by the game and online circumstances themselves.
 

bl1tzz

Registered User
Put my defensive line to 0 and so far it seems to work. In my first match today i played a guy who only used triangle and L1 triangle and didnt take a touch, just passed it all the time. He lead 1-0 at half time using that c**t tactic so i decided to put my line to 0 and low and behold.......... he failed almost every through ball and i ended up winning 2-1. Serves him right hahaha

see? you can winning against 4 bars assisted user using defending tactic... so just don't whining when you get match up against 4 bar assistance...! It's our achievement so don't just blame another when using 4 bar assistance, if you get bored enough with the 4 bar just turn it ON and let's see can you still winning the games...? I'm an manual user but when i had to face 4 bar assistance it doesn't bother me at all, it's my reward for myself when i can built a nice game using my manual pass...
 

Sabatasso

Banned
Now the "4 assist bars" part of the community will start to complain about the "0 defensive line cheaters" and we have the snowball rolling.

The irony here is that neither part understand exactly where things went wrong, and why the human race is pathetic and they are the main reason.

I give up humanity as a world community, it will never work.
 

tony_dudz

Registered User
Back from playing a lot more and the 0 defensive line has stopped working as i can't build attacks as quick as i'd like so it's always slow and with online button delay, very tedious. This game has the potential to be amazing online and i'd rather wait an extra 45 seconds or so to find a player on my assistance level. They need to sort it out. At least in fifa everybodys equal when it comes to passing mostly and the through balls are less effective. C'mon Konami
 

onebelo

Registered User
I give up humanity as a world community, it will never work.

i bet people were saying that in the stone ages fending for their lives in small groups... now BILLIONS of people are living well in different countires all over the world, working as a community under laws

:rolleyes:
 
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