Steve Justice
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No fix for the +1 game speed bug then?
PES 2011 - Patch Version 1.02
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The_whisper
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Will it be save game compatible ?
DIECI
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whats the +1 gamespeed bug ?
Avelives
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Well colour me surprised, Konami have actually bothered to play their own game and clearly realised why so many were complaining!
Sniping aside im so glad they have at least attempted to fix things, hopefully they get it right, specially the cursor switching and defender AI which were abysmal bordering on game breaking.
morado
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Steve Justice
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On the 360, if you change your game speed to +1 your players are unable to defend, they become stationary or stutter. It's not overly common, but it has been reported previously. I have deleted the game and started from scratch but I still get the problem.
nah mate there is NO power bar for shots that bar you get is for the height of your shot not power try it
altho agree about the manual shooting
Macheda
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Thank you man, i have been unable to a day now and blamed my brother for damaging my controller :/ you've helped me here
My guess on what these changes will do;
Cursor-Will still select wrong players who could not possibly be useful, but they'll do it a little bit quicker.
Shooting-Will just be less open goals missed. Butt won't allow you any control over speed or direction. And certainly won't make R2 have any precision or enough power to reach the goal...wherever you are.
Defensive AI-I can never understand what Konami are saying when they talk about football, but if anything the player with the ball already has too much pressure anyway. Maybe they will actually allow you to have some control over when you try a stab tackle/put a foot in. More likely they'll just make a midfielder play far too deep so theres another defending player in the backline.
Throw-In Return Pass-I expect they'll just implement the new passing system they hyped up for half a second after throw-ins are taken.
Chants/Master League money/Rainbow Flicks i'm sure they will do seeing as they're all gimmicks
What the patch should do:
REMOVE ALL FIXING/SCRIPTING
Cursor-Will still select wrong players who could not possibly be useful, but they'll do it a little bit quicker.
Shooting-Will just be less open goals missed. Butt won't allow you any control over speed or direction. And certainly won't make R2 have any precision or enough power to reach the goal...wherever you are.
Defensive AI-I can never understand what Konami are saying when they talk about football, but if anything the player with the ball already has too much pressure anyway. Maybe they will actually allow you to have some control over when you try a stab tackle/put a foot in. More likely they'll just make a midfielder play far too deep so theres another defending player in the backline.
Throw-In Return Pass-I expect they'll just implement the new passing system they hyped up for half a second after throw-ins are taken.
Chants/Master League money/Rainbow Flicks i'm sure they will do seeing as they're all gimmicks
What the patch should do:
REMOVE ALL FIXING/SCRIPTING
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For me this is a potential crunch moment for Konami. It's great that they are showing genuine signs of monitoring community feedback and, crucially, reacting to it.
No doubt like many others when I read the proposed improvements the recognition of cursor selection and defensive AI issues alone were enough to make this patch more than a token gesture on Konami's part.
But therein lies the rub. People are rightly pissed that these issues were in the game to start with, myslef among them. There's already alot of hyperbole being bandied about on this patch and if Konami don't deliver on what is in reality a promise open to much interpretation, they could be on the recieving end of a nasty backlash.
Don't get me wrong - I'll be lining up with the rest of them on the 24th very eager to test this patch, whether it throws my beloved option file to shit or not. But there's a palpable sense of expectation out there and it may be wiser to lower them before assuming too much.
Konami should be congratulated for considerably upping their DLC game. If it's not the patch to end all patches then I for one will be contemplating what was missed (in the hope of further tweaks) than flaming a genuinely positive step for Konami.
It shows their listening...
No doubt like many others when I read the proposed improvements the recognition of cursor selection and defensive AI issues alone were enough to make this patch more than a token gesture on Konami's part.
But therein lies the rub. People are rightly pissed that these issues were in the game to start with, myslef among them. There's already alot of hyperbole being bandied about on this patch and if Konami don't deliver on what is in reality a promise open to much interpretation, they could be on the recieving end of a nasty backlash.
Don't get me wrong - I'll be lining up with the rest of them on the 24th very eager to test this patch, whether it throws my beloved option file to shit or not. But there's a palpable sense of expectation out there and it may be wiser to lower them before assuming too much.
Konami should be congratulated for considerably upping their DLC game. If it's not the patch to end all patches then I for one will be contemplating what was missed (in the hope of further tweaks) than flaming a genuinely positive step for Konami.
It shows their listening...
Tech_Skill
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Yup, I think your pretty much spot on here, Im not expecting too much to be honest, just waiting to see what exactly will happen. I dont think people should expect major game play changes for the positive, but Konami are a company who sneak things in here and there which arent always mentioned in the patch releases.
An example was a patch for pes 2010, i think it was the 1st transfer update patch, but im sure the gameplay was slightly slowed down and alot of people liked that. EA are different, if they list something, you can be sure 95% of it doesnt work, makes no difference, you should see the official forums down there. People have just had enough of that game and the developers/producers are on the run.
S-D-P
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I still use this to dictate the power of a shot depending on body position, so yes it is a power bar it just needs to have a bit more precision . When you strike a ball in real life the amount of power needed changes depending on how you approach the ball and the momentum with which the ball is moving, PES tries to replicate this.
Any news whether the patch will effect existing ML saves?
That's not right. It isn't a power bar. I never use more than the tiniest tap and have still scored plenty of goals from 25/30 yards, all absolute rifles. I score long range goals exactly the same way I score one on ones. There's no connection between how much that bar is filled and how powerful the shot is, just the height (sometimes).
S-D-P
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The amount of power needed depends on the situation, that's the point I was making. I am not saying 80% power means the shot will travel at the same power each time, depends on body position, pressure, back-lift etc. I use these points I mentioned when shooting and it works and I see why it works. It doesn't feel random to me like many people say.
Tech_Skill
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Ive heard saves are ok, but i doubt thats true.
Any one know what time its due out, any chance of midnight tonight??