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PES 2012 - Your top 6 suggestions

1bennett1

Registered User
1. Teammate AI. It's been discussed to death already. Have them make runs and also have react to any tackles, interceptions, shots, dribbles etc. Insted of standing still or continuing what they were doing before.

2. Ball going through players. No one seems to mention this and it drives me mad. Get the defender in a position to block a pass and the ball goes through him. Equally, don't have it bounce off players in directions it shouldn't at speeds it shouldn't.

3. Speed things up. Not just attacking players who may be a threat, but every time a player controls the ball they stop moving for a second. And then of course when players sprint they need about 4/5 seconds to get up to a speed that might be considered running. And turning. Even if the player doesn't have the ball he takes far too long to turn around.

4. Camera angle. Just get one where you can actually tell where the balls going. The same one that was used for 15 years before this game

5. Less contrived. Nothing seems to make sense on the game. Every tackle, interception, pass, shot (whether it goes in or not) seems forced, and not caused by what i've done.

6. Let the games have some action. Everything about the game seems geared towards preventing any attacks-which makes the game boring. I think the other points i've made were all deliberate so as to stop games having any action.
 
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yusufs94

Registered User
1)Better Player Reactions:
too many times players just watch the ball roll passed them, especially during through balls

2) Realistic and varying animations:
most of the time time someone is slide tackled, they fall over with the same front flip,and when budged off the ball they always stumble. Why can't they carry on fighting for it, and players dont always fall over when tackled. Varying injuries and collisions. Every kick has the same animation, you need to mix it up depending on what the player is doing.

3)Complete manual passing & crossing:
The more you play, the more you realise its done for you. Also, make crossing manual.

4) First touch:
It takes so long for players to get the ball out of their feet. It slows the whole attack down, it needs to be smoother. Depending on your stats your first touch should be quicker. The same with accelaration, there isn't much difference between players and how quick they get to top speed.

5) Match day atmosphere:
Have different loudness atmosphere for bigger games, real chants, subs warming up on the sideline, managers shouting e.t.c

6) All round AI:
Defensive AI needs to be a lot smarter in man marking. Following the ball happens to much defenders get sucked in instead of staying with their man, also their needs to be defensive cover if a player is out of position. The defenders are always faster than the attackers its too unrealistic, need to get the balance right. Attacking AI needs to make intelligent runs without having to play a one-two to make them move. The refereeing needs to actually be good instead of favouring AI and fouls when i clearly got the ball.
 

brucie777

Registered User
1. stadium editor needs alot more that can be edited and you should be able to do the corner sections

2. referee eras where they let a goal stand even tho its offside, giving a corner when it should be a goalkick

3. see the manger on the toucline shouting at the players and giving orders and see the players doing there warm up on the side of the pitch

4. varible weather in game it could start raining then stop or go from a light rain to a really heavy rain

5. in master league be able to put a price on players so if a club is intrested they know how much your looking for to get him and also be able to do player plus cash deals and the abillity to offer a new contract at any point for players too keep them happier not just the end of there deal and for players to come out and say they want to move on and you can try to win them round that would make it much more realistic, i would also like the ability to chose how much i want to offer and not just leave it to the scout maybe so you tell your scout that you will pay so much but try to get him cheaper and if your first offer gets turned down your scout would tell you and ask if you want to go to the top end of your offer.

6. boot editor have the nike adidas and puma and umbro madels but with the ability to change the colour to what ever you want so they would be personal and with the goalkeeper gloves to that would make it much more of an expierience

other than these things
 

Andrew's

Registered User
1) Get more Licenses! We're Stuck with 5 Full Leagues and no 2nd Divisions. If you can't get the licenses, at least do the leagues with the players and unlicensed teams (i.e. Bundesliga could be German league and Schalke could be Gelsenkirschen, NPower could be 2nd England league, Portugal league, Greece League, Russia League...)

2) Full kit editing

3) Better GK AI

4) Out of the box shots were crap in PES 2011 Because they all went to the fans, It would be nice if they improved them.

5) PKs The PES 2010 Sistem was good, but the 2011's is just too complicated

6) Weather influence in games should be improved. Last week's Porto-Académica for Liga ZON Sagres was played in very wet conditions, and that would be nice if it was recreated

Andrew's
 

Andrew's

Registered User
1) Get more Licenses! We're Stuck with 5 Full Leagues and no 2nd Divisions. If you can't get the licenses, at least do the leagues with the players and unlicensed teams (i.e. Bundesliga could be German league and Schalke could be Gelsenkirschen, NPower could be 2nd England league, Portugal league, Greece League, Russia League...)

2) Full kit editing

3) Better GK AI

4) Out of the box shots were crap in PES 2011 Because they all went to the fans, It would be nice if they improved them.

5) PKs The PES 2010 Sistem was good, but the 2011's is just too complicated

6) Weather influence in games should be improved. Last week's Porto-Académica for Liga ZON Sagres was played in very wet conditions, and that would be nice if it was recreated

Andrew's
 

tobyemblem

Registered User
everything that everyone is saying is important and pretty much what I wanted to say so i'll jus post some new ideas for PES 2012

1) First I disagree with other people and saying that you should add cars and houses and parties etc. into BAL and ML, that would be too much if you want that prompt them to make a whole other game. For me I think you guys should add more controllable aspects in creating our BAL player, like instead of randomly configuring our stats. May I suggest doing what you do now as a base and then giving us a set number of points say 30 or so to add to certain stats or use on skills like 5 or 10 points on flicking skills and that way we can choose if we want to start as a player with extremely high stats in certain areas or a player with moderate stats and a whole pile of skill cards. Also we should be able to choose if we're an off or def or bal leveled player instead of being automatically balanced. Another great idea would be relationships with other players like if im an Argentine player on Barcelona who was just chosen for the national team, my teamwork and form would start slightly higher and known players would pass to me more often because I already am well acquainted with Messi Mascherano and Gabby Milito for say.

2) for ML, I think we should be able to fully control any and everything about the club, like ticket prices, stadium size, having stadium edit in ML (just costing money with every edit) and definitely stadium maintenance would be a nice addition. Definitely change the price of players etc. and the amount of money for winning championships etc. We should be able to offer prices for players.

3) The AI definitely has to be fixed but everyone already said that so I wont waste my energy. But I will say CHANGE THE CURVE MECHANICS. If a 15 year old boy from New York can curve the ball from outside the penalty box to the left upper 90 I'm pretty sure pros from La Liga can too.

4) If you are going to include D2 leagues like Barca B, we should be able to choose a D2 league in BAL and get called up to the senior team when where needed and throughout the game we can get offers from senior clubs as a pro contract.

5) You should definitely try to get Ray Hudson and that other guy from GOL TV that would be awesome and making fan interaction more lively would be a huge plus like an ENORMOUS uproar by fans at a winning or drawing goal right at stoppage time or before the half and an even bigger uproar for bigger games. More fights and less fouls at derbies or rivalries like El Clasico, player attitudes, which will effect how often that player lashes out or helps his opponent up after a bad tackle for example.

6) finally, weather effects. Just like how you have long sleeves during winter you should have snow and it should accumulate and their should be orange balls, the pitch should get slippery and slower passes with snow faster with rain. Things like should change like heavier rainfall and muddy jerseys would be awesome.
 

Jimakos13

Registered User
1. Fix defenders understanding when they see the ball near them -.-
2. Fix that thing when changing player, to chose the right one, and not the one who is 10km away
3. More teams/leagues original
4. More realistic ML options, cus even if u have 40 consecutive cl, top players dont want to sign in ur team
5. More stadiums
6. At last teach pato how to finish one on one:p!!!!!
 

5LLoD

Registered User
1-More option in Stadium Creator*****
2-More option In Kits Edit Mode*****
3-Bring back the old penalty system
4-FIX THE DAMN NET make more realistic *****
(you copied almost every thing from FIFA except the nets !!! Why???
5-add career mode to the master league so we can change clubs from time to time
6-different stadiums size(like camp nou is bigger than old trafford)
7-Third Kit
8-Ball Creator mode
9-cup\competitions creator mode
10-weekly update for the lines up and kits, boots, haircuts
11-change the commentary
12-Libartadores teams in ML
13-make the shoots more realistic
14-Improve the gameplay(defenders, passing, shooting, AI)
15-Improve the stupid Referee(specially the offsides)
16-EPL and BundesLiga licenses
17-Improve player response
18-more weather
19-dirty clothes
20-sweating
21-Tattoos
22-6 star difficulty
23-new animations
24-logos on the captain badge
25-specialize the fans sound(Like in EPL the fans screaming after goal is different from Calcio or Liga BBVA)
26-Cups locker room
 

oggmeista

Registered User
1 cross field ball needs to be a little easier to use

2 passing system is better but why not have it as fully manual rather than long or shorter passes as is now because through balls are still a bit too easy and or not enough finesse when using them the ball distance should be in "EXACT" ratio to the length of a button press

3 "disable controller selection check" this has just been a pointless and frustarting feature on the newer evos LUCKILY you can disable this rubbish with kitservers" but why have it in the first place??

4 Fatigue does not work properly only stamina is lost during the match what about during the season?? again this used to be featured in the older versions so why remove it?

Further this could be made so its not constant for every player that is to say that different players "tire" during a season at different rates in earlier versions it was a little too aggressive where players were getting completely fatigued after just a few games

5 Bring in the new offside rules (real) and improve the this as a whole ive had a number of situations where I have been flagged offside when I wasnt

6 visua/audio enhancements and improvements such as
national anthems for international compettition, random pitch invasions after cup wins against big teams "giant killing" or come from behind wins
Away supporters also heard cheering during match though prefferably at a lower volume

being cheeky as should have 7 this just a nice little things though

instaead of goals in game being announced when you score id prefer goals during season.. player ratings need to be tweaked when was last time you got a 4 or a 9? needs to be a little more sensitives so that 9 and even 10s are given as well as 2s and 3s


thers many more little things but I would say those are the main ones to take precendence and that can be achieved


thank you for reading guys
 

oggmeista

Registered User
1 cross field ball needs to be a little easier to use

2 passing system is better but why not have it as fully manual rather than long or shorter passes as is now because through balls are still a bit too easy and or not enough finesse when using them the ball distance should be in "EXACT" ratio to the length of a button press

3 "disable controller selection check" this has just been a pointless and frustarting feature on the newer evos LUCKILY you can disable this rubbish with kitservers" but why have it in the first place??

4 Fatigue does not properly only stamina during the match what about during the season?? again this used to be featured in the older versions so why remove it?

Further this could be made so its not constant for every player that is to say that different players "tire" during a season at different rates in earlier versions it was a little too aggressive where players were getting completely fatigued after just a few games

5 Bring in the new offside rules (real) and improve the this as a whole ive had a number of situations where I have been flagged offside when I wasnt

6 visua/audio enhancements and improvements such as
national anthems for international compettition, random pitch invasions after cup wins against big teams "giant killing" or come from behind wins
Away supporters also heard cheering during match though prefferably at a lower volume

being cheeky as should have 7 this just a nice little things though

instaead of goals in game being announced when you score id prefer goals during season.. player ratings need to be tweaked when was last time you got a 4 or a 9? needs to be a little more sensitives so that 9 and even 10s are given as well as 2s and 3s


thers many more little things but I would say those are the main ones to take precendence and that can be achieved


thank you for reading.
thx for reading
 

oggmeista

Registered User
1. Fix defenders understanding when they see the ball near them -.-
2. Fix that thing when changing player, to chose the right one, and not the one who is 10km away
3. More teams/leagues original
4. More realistic ML options, cus even if u have 40 consecutive cl, top players dont want to sign in ur team
5. More stadiums
6. At last teach pato how to finish one on one:p!!!!!


complete agree with points 1 & 2 here especially point 2 Well said ):)
 

oggmeista

Registered User
1)Better Player Reactions:
too many times players just watch the ball roll passed them, especially during through balls

2) Realistic and varying animations:
most of the time time someone is slide tackled, they fall over with the same front flip,and when budged off the ball they always stumble. Why can't they carry on fighting for it, and players dont always fall over when tackled. Varying injuries and collisions. Every kick has the same animation, you need to mix it up depending on what the player is doing.

3)Complete manual passing & crossing:
The more you play, the more you realise its done for you. Also, make crossing manual.

4) First touch:
It takes so long for players to get the ball out of their feet. It slows the whole attack down, it needs to be smoother. Depending on your stats your first touch should be quicker. The same with accelaration, there isn't much difference between players and how quick they get to top speed.

5) Match day atmosphere:
Have different loudness atmosphere for bigger games, real chants, subs warming up on the sideline, managers shouting e.t.c

6) All round AI:
Defensive AI needs to be a lot smarter in man marking. Following the ball happens to much defenders get sucked in instead of staying with their man, also their needs to be defensive cover if a player is out of position. The defenders are always faster than the attackers its too unrealistic, need to get the balance right. Attacking AI needs to make intelligent runs without having to play a one-two to make them move. The refereeing needs to actually be good instead of favouring AI and fouls when i clearly got the ball.


not so sure about your earlier post but imo everything youve stated here I fully agree with just forgot to mention them myself :)


I do hope Konami is listening to its customers because we understand the beautiful game and we know what we want --nice post dude:dancer::agree: :)
 

akihisa

Registered User
1.snow
2.third kits
3.goalkeeper 2nd jersey
4.more material in stadium editor
5.can switch to wear 1st jersey with 2nd short. or 2nd jersey with 1st short...
6.easily can upload my goal to web~
 

alexholmes

Registered User
1. hire me to do the commentary ;)
2. see the subs warming up on the touchline
3. add more weather for example if playing with "overcast" weather, maybe there can be torrential rain at some point. Or if raining, it can stop and the sun shines
4. the players when taking free kicks and corners look like squares, and you can't make out their names on the shirts. Change this
5. Not saying copy FIFA exactly, but on their world cup game when you made a sub you would see the manager on the touchline in full 3D. Something like that?
8. Remove the KONAMI ugly advertising boards around the stadium
9. Scrap the stadium editor and actually make 3D versions of most stadiums. If you feel that stealing £40 off us for tiny changes is acceptable then you can release these stadiums either on PSN or Xbox Marketplace for like 79p so we can download them.
10. Of the 50 subs (roughly) i've made, its only gone to a cut scene once! I'd like to see this more often.
11. please please please make the crowd chants realistic
12. make the crowd fully 3D, not cardboard
13. Add more realism to the ball and player effects. If it rain, let players slip over Michael Dawson-esque.
14. Go for the custom celebrations. I know that's copying FIFA but its good fun to do backflips with Woodgate.
15. Add referee personalities. So have Mark "I don't know what the advantage rule is and im biased for the big english clubs" Clattenburg being the biased twat he really is. So when Spurs score a goal, it can be disallowed
16. I know that KONAMI are licensed to only 2 EPL teams (as is every other football game publisher if there was one). But dont choose them automatically. How about a poll?
17. Honestly, i think pes 2012 needs a total revamp. So im talking 'C:/Documents and Settings/Users/Seabass/PES ------> Shift+Delete -----> Enter"
18. But, most importantly please reintroduce the advantage rule!
 

G-fuss

Registered User
LISTEN PLEASE!!!
Die hard fans do not care about anything else but game play!! All the garbage about menus and transfers and leagues don’t mean a thing if the play on the pitch is not Winning Eleven Quality. The distraction of menus and such are causing us to lose the game we cherish!!! I bootlegged a Japanese version of Winning Eleven when it was not available in North America, and fumbled my way through the menus to get to a great game of football………………………I cant remember the last time i was really excited to play PES.
I’m not sure what else to say ,they should change the title back to Winning Eleven. Copy the parameters from the 2007 game and make us all happy………i’m not sure how much longer i can continue to be disappointed. (dribbling and controlling is a mess)
 

G-fuss

Registered User
not so sure about your earlier post but imo everything youve stated here I fully agree with just forgot to mention them myself :)


I do hope Konami is listening to its customers because we understand the beautiful game and we know what we want --nice post dude:dancer::agree: :)

well said gameplay is what is lacking
 

G-fuss

Registered User
forget more leagues!!! fix the play of the game.

#1:fix the movement of players, it seems labored when you are moving. especially when engaging an opponent. The A.I sometimes don't recognize the ball just because they are not selected, or if they are on a run, they won't break it off. Or they don't keep their run when you are attacking, they break it off too early.

#2: give players the ability to handle lob passes better, they seem to not be able to take advantage of those opportunities. ( they cant even get a good shot off when the ball is dropping)

#3: fix the referee ( the calls are ridiculous )

#4: stop the A.I from slide tackling in the box (have them clear the ball automatically, within a yard or two off the goal line instead)

#5: allow the player to hit one time shots(offense) , or clear the ball (defense) one time. if we want to control the ball, we wont press square to shoot or clear.

#6: bring back the old P.K system.......no one complained, so why change it.

#7: fix how players engage each other. from jostling to tackling to keeping possession of the ball.

#8: The motion of shooting needs some work, i'm not sure what. it just doesn't seem convincing

#9: When players are running, they have momentum. If i run full tilt and stop with the ball, the A.I stops on a dime right beside me. That's unrealistic, how are you supposed to get separation

#10: Ball physics needs adjusting

#11: Cursor switching speed needs to be adjustable

#12: Change the name back to Winning Eleven...............The good old days!


There you have it, 12 things to fix for Winning Eleven 2012. Do those things before changing anything that we did not ask to be changed, or changing the menus which have nothing to do with football or even new nets i can live without. These are the requests of your true blue faithful Konami, everyone else is trying to distract you from the task of making the beautiful game.
 

anderx

New Member
my first post here... Everything is already said.
When Konami start to listen what football fans are saying, we'll get the best footy game in the history. I hope they really read these posts, you guys said all what is missing in the game: emotion. Nice ideas in all posts.
 

St.Zwailla

Registered User
Bring back Winning Eleven 8 gameplay! Old camera -wide-, old penality, maybe to make petition?

Edit:

Just look at Mortal Kombat series, they tried something different and when they failed they realized that the old is what works best. PES 09/10/11 in gameplay cant come close to WE 8 ...

Some videos that can remind us of good old times. I had a blast with my friends back then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xeg90NwMkk
 
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