Well after downloading the FIFA 15 demo and forcing 19-20 games out of it, I can honestly say that no matter how bad a game you may think PES is, FIFA is worse. FIFA player look like they are running on a treadmill and floating on ice when running, dumb collisions, poor ball physics, body movement and shot types are low, grainy texture to it, faces are nowhere near as good as pes's, game feels robotic and clunky, crap celebrations, stadiums actually look worse than pes's. for people that say everyone plays the same on pes, try fifa geez. AI is worse in FIFA. Trigger a run with L1... trigger a run? I don't want to trigger a run, I want to know which player is running, I don't want to press L1 then have to look to see which one is running, why press L1 at all, them runs should be done by the AI. passing is exactly what bhatti said, ping pongy. Players bodies, geez, they are the same as what they used to be when I played fifa 98 on the PC. Has the whole world gone mad or something? did all the old pes lot get blinded by game modes and licenses? or did we get blinded by a lack of them? Because I went back to pes 2013 online as I hate 2014 with a passion, and PES 2013 on the football pitch is a better game than FIFA 15. FIFa feels like the players move too quick but the ball moves too slow, I can't begin to argue how shit FIFa is, just wow, I thought maybe I was just being a pes fanboy and overlooking FIFA, but no way in a million years, apart from presentations and licenses, FIFA is tripe... rant over lol