PES 2017: your ideas and suggestions

[PES Russia]

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Dear users of pesgaming.com!

Innovations of PES 2016 are announced and known to everybody. In order not to waste any time we have started to prepare materials for PES 2017. We will mention all those innovations and improvements that fans want to see in the near future! Therefore I would like to ask you to remark on the following items:
- What kind of innovations would you like to see in the series;
- What improvements from the previous parts of the series would you like to see in the game again;
- What features from the other sport simulators(not only from footsims) would you like to see;
- What weaknesses which ruin the impression of the game from year to year you would like to eliminate once and for all.

I look forward to your response and lively discussion. This topic is actively discussed on all Russian PES portals. Soon I will create a similar topic at winningelevenblog.com, neoseeker.com, pesfan.com, evo-web.co.uk and other!

We plan to gather all the information from all the forums in September. Then we’ll process, sort and send it to the developers in the form of an article. We look forward to your support and help!

Best regards from Russia!

 

[nayimk]

I'm just gonna throw it all out there, no necessary order, things i firmly believe can be achieved:

Various substitution cinematics for both player and CPU, crowd showing their appreciation, frustrated player, injured player, taking handshakes of team mates, if the captain is subbed please show them giving the armband to the next player.

Individual player actions whilst off the ball, e.g wiping rain or sweat off their face, pulling their socks up, players swapping shirts at full time (vest/under armour underneath), throwing shirt into the crowd, player showing appreciation to the crowd, steam from the breath of the players in the winter nights.

More and more dynamic commentary

A dynamic crowd system, e.g less packed out during the friendlies and smaller league games = less noise, more packed out for cup games. End of the match needs more variety in crowd sounds, why would there be massive cheers after the home team has lost? we need to find the blend, 80% / 20% and so on.

Cinematics of players crowds and managers and bench before, during and after the game

Please add more animations for more smooth movement

A concise edit mode in Master League for kit editing season by season for more realism

Self-generated kits in ML for opposition teams after each season based on primary (shirt), secondary (shorts) and third (socks) colours , e.g chelsea = blue, blue, white. arsenal = red, white, white. this can be set within edit mode, cmon guys we need to use the PS4/XONE to its best capabilities.

Kit editing in MyClub mode - fixed to the colour method of 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Authentic Champions League/ Europa League presentation, commentators mentioning the teams highlight players during tournament and a replay of the winning/last goal of the game whether its a penalty or during normal time. As we all know BT Sport has the license for CL now maybe you can use their style for the UK/EU version of the game.

We just need more dynamic content here, for instance if we win a trophy back to back the commentator should mention this.

Extended history of the clubs in ML, past trophies, managers and past competition results, e.g reached round of 16 only.

CPU AI needs to play more human-like, errors and more dynamic range of play/tactics whilst in game. The difficulty needs to be sharpened up, not too hard and not too easy.

In depth training schedule for ML, regimes and focuses, tactics. Please can we train with our team within ML like previous PES' - ties in with the idea of editing our kits also. Just realism things.

I would like to see injuries in Master League to all clubs in the season based on in game injuries and training regimes, if the training schedule is too heavy they will gain injuries.

Ability to manage/hire backroom staff of the club, e.g physio and positional coaches, weaker the physio the more injury risk, the poorer the coach, the smaller the ability increase and so on.

Please reintroduce the individual player ability increase style, e.g standard, standard/lasting. restyle this if needed. players that get older get better, not everyone becomes poorer with age!

A stadium creator is a must but I do remember Adam Bhatti saying that there is licensing issues, if this is the case can we please have more stadium range, low league, middle leagues, high leagues.

I'd like to hear some more sounds after scoring goals such as the net ripple/swoosh and dialogue of the players screaming 'yeah' in different accents and languages for different continents and countries.

thank you, I just feel these are believable and achievable ideas. I am very passionate about PES, ive never gave up on the franchise since my first - PES 2.

 

[PES Russia]

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The following are the wishes that had already been proposed earlier (so please - do not repeat):
● CPU AI needs to play more human-like, errors and more dynamic range of play/tactics whilst in game.
● A stadium creator is a must but I do remember Adam Bhatti saying that there is licensing issues, if this is the case can we please have more stadium range, low league, middle leagues, high leagues.
● Improve night lighting.
● Flashes and plags and waving in crowd
● More animations (Especially for the goalkeepers)
● A good shooting system with plenty of variety which also means more natural and realistic keepers.
● Revamp the current free-kick and penalty system, it's terrible and remove the lines completely
● Much more animations, i would like to see a variety and have few different ones for each thing.
● Snow!
● Proper footplanting, remove the sliding/skeeting
● Atmosphere (just play the FIFA15 opening match between Liverpool and Man City)
● Fast replay then slow motion replay.
● 2vs2 online must be used on all stadiums
● Player input still needs to be more responsive
● Teammate AI still needs work - Sometimes when I'm in possession I notice that I hold unto the ball way longer than I'd like because no ones making any good runs
● Online When creating a room you should be able to set more options.
● A marketplace for MyClub
● More realistic collisions and battling for the ball when jostling and arial duels, shirt pulling elbows etc
● Edit for kits for xbox one
● Defending needs to be better
● No delay while switching/skipping scenes
● Seamless cut-scene, realtime presentation, stadium atmosphere and contextual player reactions.
● Reduced short sizes.
● Improve AI - More variation in goals, MORE FOULS.
● Away Crowd for goals is almost mute.
● Stadium creator (not editor) with lots of options
● A dedicated button for manual instant replay. They must disable automatic repetition after every shot or foul asap. It's annoying and there's a lot thing that you want to see more than a shot or foul.
● Real time throw in, corner kick and goal kick. No more black screen between them.
● Old free kick executions (like PS1/PS2 days).
● Highlights to be at 100% speed instead of slowed down.
● A proper stanina system especially for online, to penalize players for pressuring all game with 3 players
● Lack of fouls! We want a realistic foul system.
● J. League and Japan national team full license.
● Number of spectators (also implemented in old-gen PES).
● Cross-platform Edit Data (also known as option file) sharing. System settings / Game option
● Better Cam options, specially for online matches
● Different types of referees in strictness, about 10 different referee team at least with strictness level 1-10 for example
● Bit concern that in the box 1-on-1 the keeper still doesnt have a chance.
● Improved ball physics also needed to add more variation to the shots, every shot feels the same strong and mostly hits the target or goes a bit wide, there are no really awful shots wich go really wide, or over the bar like in reality
● Better shooting system, with more variety, more error depending on player stats, which foot he use, the angle of his body and much more variety in ball tranjectories.
● I'd like to see again the offline community mode from PES 2012.
● Dedicated servers for online
● Handballs
● myClub is my club/ When they play a new version of PES. They can play a same club of previous version.

If you with something do not agree of the above - please also let know about it. This is important to us!

We could've provided you with more information if it wasn't for linguistic complications.

Thank you for your attention and response!

 

[matthewjohn85]

I'm just gonna throw it all out there, no necessary order, things i firmly believe can be achieved:

Various substitution cinematics for both player and CPU, crowd showing their appreciation, frustrated player, injured player, taking handshakes of team mates, if the captain is subbed please show them giving the armband to the next player.

Individual player actions whilst off the ball, e.g wiping rain or sweat off their face, pulling their socks up, players swapping shirts at full time (vest/under armour underneath), throwing shirt into the crowd, player showing appreciation to the crowd, steam from the breath of the players in the winter nights.

More and more dynamic commentary

A dynamic crowd system, e.g less packed out during the friendlies and smaller league games = less noise, more packed out for cup games. End of the match needs more variety in crowd sounds, why would there be massive cheers after the home team has lost? we need to find the blend, 80% / 20% and so on.

Cinematics of players crowds and managers and bench before, during and after the game

Please add more animations for more smooth movement

A concise edit mode in Master League for kit editing season by season for more realism

Self-generated kits in ML for opposition teams after each season based on primary (shirt), secondary (shorts) and third (socks) colours , e.g chelsea = blue, blue, white. arsenal = red, white, white. this can be set within edit mode, cmon guys we need to use the PS4/XONE to its best capabilities.

Kit editing in MyClub mode - fixed to the colour method of 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Authentic Champions League/ Europa League presentation, commentators mentioning the teams highlight players during tournament and a replay of the winning/last goal of the game whether its a penalty or during normal time. As we all know BT Sport has the license for CL now maybe you can use their style for the UK/EU version of the game.

We just need more dynamic content here, for instance if we win a trophy back to back the commentator should mention this.

Extended history of the clubs in ML, past trophies, managers and past competition results, e.g reached round of 16 only.

CPU AI needs to play more human-like, errors and more dynamic range of play/tactics whilst in game. The difficulty needs to be sharpened up, not too hard and not too easy.

In depth training schedule for ML, regimes and focuses, tactics. Please can we train with our team within ML like previous PES' - ties in with the idea of editing our kits also. Just realism things.

I would like to see injuries in Master League to all clubs in the season based on in game injuries and training regimes, if the training schedule is too heavy they will gain injuries.

Ability to manage/hire backroom staff of the club, e.g physio and positional coaches, weaker the physio the more injury risk, the poorer the coach, the smaller the ability increase and so on.

Please reintroduce the individual player ability increase style, e.g standard, standard/lasting. restyle this if needed. players that get older get better, not everyone becomes poorer with age!

A stadium creator is a must but I do remember Adam Bhatti saying that there is licensing issues, if this is the case can we please have more stadium range, low league, middle leagues, high leagues.

I'd like to hear some more sounds after scoring goals such as the net ripple/swoosh and dialogue of the players screaming 'yeah' in different accents and languages for different continents and countries.

thank you, I just feel these are believable and achievable ideas. I am very passionate about PES, ive never gave up on the franchise since my first - PES 2.

hear hear , i second all of this you mentioned would be really great even in this years adition would turn the game into something else.

 

[Parkinfed]

1. I disagree with there being a market for myClub players, it takes out any fun in it. Would it not lead to similar teams across the board?
2. Online servers are a TOP TOP TOP TOPMOST priority.
3. This was not mentioned in the post, Master League still needs to be expanded more. A lot of things like player training (new skills and positions) and youth teams etc. are yet to be addressed.

 

[who]

1. This was not mentioned in the post, Master League still needs to be expanded more. A lot of things like player training (new skills and positions) and youth teams etc. are yet to be addressed.

Absolutely.

*It would be nice to see more realistic transfers done by AI
* Improved player values, which are too low at the moment. You can buy the best players for pretty small amount of money.
* Ability to choose wheather day/night time.
* More stability in schedule with proper amount of home/away games played in a row, rather than long series of playing only at home and then only away.
* More manager/players introduction cut-scenes.
* More fake leagues that could be used in ML and not region locked or more leagues for European region.
* Dublicate player removed
* Fake teams removed. Rather to have weaker, but realistic team playing in Champions League or Europa League, instead of fake fantasy ones.
* Stats archyve, which would allow to see your all time leading scoring/appearance players.
* Pre-season games and ability to choose your opponent as in PES 6.

As far as stadiums are regarded, I really miss the feeling of playing with smaller teams, since almost all stadiums are big and shining.

* More stadiums, especially smaller ones for smaller teams/lower divisions. Can be made depending from region architecture style (British/French/Eastern European with no stands behing net and with running tracks around.)
* Stadiums dont have to be necessarily licensed. PES/Konami generic stadiums are very welcome. The most important thing - variety, ability to edit stadium name/net color/turf pattern and apply it to any team in game.

 

[matthewjohn85]

1. I disagree with there being a market for myClub players, it takes out any fun in it. Would it not lead to similar teams across the board?
2. Online servers are a TOP TOP TOP TOPMOST priority.
3. This was not mentioned in the post, Master League still needs to be expanded more. A lot of things like player training (new skills and positions) and youth teams etc. are yet to be addressed.

can you add players into your youth squad once you sign them.

 

[fatehasfans]

*Complete user-control (Zero AI interference on user controls - on all levels both offline and online)

 

[The Dude]

All i want is enough "other European teams" to not have those fake teams in ML that you cant get rid of. So annoying. Also add another European league (real or fake) so you can have 8

 

[PES Russia]

The "PES 2017: the series fans wishes" will be released and sent to the developers on November 6, 2015.

 

[darkamelot]

Please put on PES 2017 "Chilean Supercup".

SUPER COPA DE CHILE

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7ngtAqKdl...s1600/Supercopa+de+Chile+256x256+PESLogos.PNG

 

[Xenas]

After this marvelous patch, I can't control my passes, can't tackle, can't control my players, and so on..

Before was not good, but now it's horrible!

You can tell this to fucking Konami!

 

[SportGameFan]

I absolutely applaud the efforts of this Russian person/team.

Konami should be ashamed of themselves for releasing not only a pretty shoddy product this year, but also for not correcting the goalkeeping and refereeing programming mistakes with the first 'Data Pack.' They have let down so many loyal fans of the PES series. They need to realise that FIFA 16 now sets the standard for how a football game should be (if you don't like the default sliders etc. you can customise the gameplay etc.), and I'm sure that quite a few people have now all but called it quits with PES as Konami just don't seem to care at all!

If PES 2017 is poor, that's it for PES in my opinion- enough is enough! They can't go on living off their past glories- PES 5 was 10 years ago!!

As much as I applaud this Russian person's efforts, I have very little faith that Konami will cast more than a cursory gaze at the fan suggestions, before they consign it to the 'trash can.'
__________

With that said:

● Fix the bloody game!
● Adam Bhatti demoted to 'Tea Boy.'
● Adam Bhatti contracted to only speak the truth about all matters concerning the PES series, or keep his trap shut!

 

[Assassin87]

I absolutely applaud the efforts of this Russian person/team.

Konami should be ashamed of themselves for releasing not only a pretty shoddy product this year, but also for not correcting the goalkeeping and refereeing programming mistakes with the first 'Data Pack.' They have let down so many loyal fans of the PES series. They need to realise that FIFA 16 now sets the standard for how a football game should be (if you don't like the default sliders etc. you can customise the gameplay etc.), and I'm sure that quite a few people have now all but called it quits with PES as Konami just don't seem to care at all!

If PES 2017 is poor, that's it for PES in my opinion- enough is enough! They can't go on living off their past glories- PES 5 was 10 years ago!!

As much as I applaud this Russian person's efforts, I have very little faith that Konami will cast more than a cursory gaze at the fan suggestions, before they consign it to the 'trash can.'
__________

With that said:

● Fix the bloody game!
● Adam Bhatti demoted to 'Tea Boy.'
● Adam Bhatti contracted to only speak the truth about all matters concerning the PES series, or keep his trap shut!

You're awesome

 

[flash7794]

It is very important that PES 2017 be richer in detail and options open. This will bring many FIFA players back to the PES in my country, but also in several other parts of the world.

. Unlock the weather, the time and stadium for the Leagues, Tournaments, Master League, Become A Legend and Cups. Almost 100% of the matches happen at night. It's frustrating. In some regions the majority of matches take place during the day with sun. The shadows on the grass could be optional. It’s impossible make an entire tournament with all the day's matches. Many of my region migrated to FIFA because of this rigidity.

. Offer new styles of goal net (net shape and net tension), not only color. Put in the options menu, the fantastic goal net that was in PES 2008 to 2011.

. Place richer animations for the final matches (Konami Cup, Konami League, Become a Legend, etc.) Do something similar to PES 2008 (Konami Cup Final). Look here the comparison of PES 2016 to PES 2008. Much more content and exciting in PES 2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwtS-eohIxo&feature=youtu.be

. Highlights and Replay to be at 100% speed instead of slowed down.

. Offer the ability to create custom tactics for each club through adjustable bars (sliders) and so, we can increase the level of artificial intelligence (CPU AI), calibrating various features (Player Support, Support Range, Position Switch, Attacking Style, Pressing, Defensive Line, Compactness, Defensive Strategy, Passing, Crossing, Shooting, etc.). This was the period of PES 2010 to 2014 and was very helpful.

. Improve the match level of the CPU. There are teams (super star) that players play passing the ball all the time, players don’t kick, players don’t play a high ball in the area (lofted pass).
. The sound of the ball when it hit the post or the crossbar is weak. Replace with a higher and more realistic sound (similar to FIFA).

. Allow the import of custom sounds of the crowd and music for the highlights of matches.

. Have full control of the goalkeeper at any time of the match.

. Make a new commentary structure. For example, some kicking the ball hit the post and the crossbar, and the commentary is silent. And many commentaries are out of sync with what happens on the field.

 

[GSC]

My feedback is that they should sell PES to 2k games, konami are finished, the difference in online and offline is absurd. Offline is still really great but online, wow did you guys release a half completed mode, in honour of your attempts to copy ea, and feel that was it.

Keepers are a joke they make so many impossible saves then let some roberto carlos impossible goal in, high rated defenders not running with low rated strikers and being completely embarrassed when coming up with strikers that are within 10 rating, and attacking runs only being made once a player has been tackled, high dribblers moving like mertesacker, pacey players not running with the ball and players with good passing never finding the target when the team is under pressure.

ALSO WHY IS KNOCK ON NOT THE RIGHT STICK LIKE FIFA, HOW DUMB IS HAVING TO MASH YOUR RUN BUTTON TO KNOCK IT ON!!!!

just give up konami, you guys are worse than arsene wenger when it comes to hanging onto past glories...

 

[Jo Art 25]

Please konami, bring back the movies !!!

KONAMI, the PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER need to return the animations that did so much success in previous PES (example: PES2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013). It was great when the players were presented at a news individual company, or where the player was very famous or star was presented in full stage in a crowded podium and among other perks.

The PES needs a lot more animations in BAL and ML. The back of the menu showing the team's training coach to give his lecture in ML was also very cool, you had your own office and animations among other room.


THEN WHAT I ASK KONAMI IS THE BACK OF THIS ANIMATIONS ON PES 2017.


NOTE: PLEASE STAFF OF KONAMI, SEE THIS VIDEO AND ABSORB IT ALL FOR PES2017

 

[V-Foot]

Well, I liked the 2016 gameplay better than the 2015 one, so my ideas will be more on the aesthetic side of things, so to speak.

1. Don't make any more duplicated teams. What's the point in making more than one of the same team? This is a gripe I've noticed since the 2015 edition, where a few teams of the Brazilian and Argentine leagues appeared up to THREE times - one in their league, one in the Libertadores block, and one in the Sudamericana block. Why not just make a "Rest of South America" block, like they do for Europe, and then arrange the teams in the respective competition modes? The way they've been doing is just pointless database cluttering.

2. Add the CAF Champions League, for variety. I know a lot of people in the Arab World play PES, and I'm sure the ones who live in Africa would love to play with their teams, like Al-Ahly, Zamalek, Espérance, Raja Casablanca and so on (and I'm a Brazilian player making this request, mind).

3. Make a German League, official or not (I even thought they could call it Deutsche Liga if they can't get the Bundesliga license). It's a bit curious: the English League has 20 teams and only Manchester United is ever licensed. On the other hand, they always secure licenses for three German teams and don't bother to make 15 more for a league.

4. Show the crowd a little more. I remember in older games there were these crowd shots sometimes, I loved that Konami cared enough to do that.

5. Speaking of that, make the kit textures so that the crowd will wear them rather than those bland, plain, single-color shirts. Even PES5 did this better, despite the inability to show decals on the crowd's shirts:

6. Enable the same features for all platforms that can support them. To this day I still think it's unfair that you can only upload full kits in the PS3/PS4 Edit Mode.

7. A bit more variety for generic stadia. I think it's pretty unrealistic that, for example, you assemble your ML team from scratch and your first option is a 30,000 seat stadium.

8. Make the player models closer to the real ones if they don't have their own faces mapped. Sometimes, even when you get the names right, the players don't look anything like in real-life when they should at least be similar. Santos' Ricardo Oliveira, for example, looks absolutely NOTHING in the game (left) like he does in real life.

Anyway, that's all for now. If I think of more stuff, I'll edit this post.

 

[utilizator11]

Perhaps there would need to take another game of football but to make a porn game and in this game to be with a girl Konami who is the bitch of boy EA SPORTS and he threw it into the street and forced into prostitution in order to make a better upgrade

 

[JAP05]

It`s quite easy:
Take Scripting (DDA rubberbanding) out.
PES 2016 is the firs copy I uy in a long time and will be the last if you keep punishing players for being good just so everybody "gets a victory from now and then". All you care for is addicted players to remain absorted in your lie. Just Like I did with EA`s FIFA, I havent bought a copy since 2013.
PES gameplay is fine...you just sold your soul KONAMI.
This were the worst $$ Ive ever spent. And I wont do it again.
So thats my suggestion...TAKE SCRIPTING OFF