PES is dead. Long live Fifa.

[russeribery]

russeribery seems not to like Fifa anymore ....but for him to reach Division 1 in Ultimate Team in 2 weeks ....means that he is either:-

1) An awesome Fifa player with master skills, who knows the game really well and have outplayed hundreds of teams ... or

2) Lying ..


peace

as i said, its not my first year of fifa and not my first fifa where ive got the title in. you just need around 80 matches to reach league one if you dont win everything but get the promotion each season, so i dont see the point im lying , sorry mate.

Fifa is good, but Momentum kills everything .. play it through the online leagues and give your statement after.

Or just watch ea forums? or maybe take a look at youtube.

FIFA was the best for me, now i cant take this momentum anymore.
So now i prefer PES cause its GOOD!

 

[probe907]

Yeah, I don't know about "dead." PES3,5,6 were great, but some of the recent ones have also been pretty good. PES10 is solid, but marred by weird overpowered dribbling and by the lack of '360 movement. I vaguely remember that shooting was weird in PES'12, but other than that it was quite good. And PES'13 is fine other than through balls and heading. PES'14 is a bit weird. It's a good game marred by a myriad of little glitches and bugs and missing features and annoyances.
Oh yeah, and the AI seems to have been getting progressively worse in the last few editions, attacking AI is bad beyond belief.
But my point remains - the games are not bad, in fact they are quite good. Perhaps it's a bit unfair to Konami to have impossible standards.

Though I must admit that I would also like a perfect HD '360 movement PES, and we just don't have one. Despite six years of efforts :/.
I wish KONAMI would update their games the way Blizzard does. Blizzard completely changed Diablo 3 in the year after its release. It looks like the same game, but plays like a totally new game. PES'13 needed some tweaks on the heading model and the through ball. Given that it would have been magnificent. But nooooo. I guess the problem lies in the multiplatform annual nature of PES. They can patch the PC version, but why bother, when most sales go to the console versions. And why bother with patching when you have to release the next title in 12 months anyway? Ah well.

 

[OCKRASS]

as i said, its not my first year of fifa and not my first fifa where ive got the title in. you just need around 80 matches to reach league one if you dont win everything but get the promotion each season, so i dont see the point im lying , sorry mate.

Fifa is good, but Momentum kills everything .. play it through the online leagues and give your statement after.

Or just watch ea forums? or maybe take a look at youtube.

FIFA was the best for me, now i cant take this momentum anymore.
So now i prefer PES cause its GOOD!

...in that case you fall in option 1) ...a master of Fifa

I have been playing Fifa for years and UT is my favourite.

However, its not just 80 games to Division 1 in my experience...

Firstly everyone starts out with a very low rated team...

Then you will have to acquire better players as you go along

On top of that ....the players lose fitness, morale, contracts and skills each and every game you play. So we have to purchase these items with coins ...or buy fifa points with real life dollars.

Then there is the difficulty of playing against teams with highly rated players such as Messi, Robben to name a few.

It takes me and most a while to get out of Division 4, 3, and 2.

Then there is relegation if you do not make the points to stay in the division.

So ...it is hard to reach division one in two weeks...unless you

1) Play and win at least 80% of your 7 matches 7 days a week in each division, while maintaining fitness, morale, contracts etc with a lower skilled team if you have not acquired skilled players

2) Maintain a 80% win through all divisions while having enough coins to purchase Store items and Transfer players to build your team will advancing through the higher divisions. Coins can be obtained through matches ...Fifa points can be purchased but cannot be used in the purchase of club items.

3) Beat some of the top players in the world to grab the Division 1 title. This I know can be done ....but only with a 90 rated team with a 100% chemistry ...good fitness good morale good skills etc...

...now since we have determined that you have mastered Fifa ....

why the hell are you complaining about "momentum"?

This sure doesn't seem like it is stopping you from kicking arse and taking names in Fifa. :tongue:

peace

 

[russeribery]

hey man , i dont know why there is such an ironic mood towards me?

http://www.easports.com/de/fifa/football-club/ultimate-team/show-off?showoffId=cxM23oX9bhSI:360

thats my team, as you said chemistry is quite important, but please stop talking about things you dont know ( if youre new to FIFA , you cant know yet )

look at my bench, its buggy in fifa , put bronze players on your bench and the "matchmaking" or momentum or handicap will give your players a bonus.

I think you will accept that this team is a top team you can play for the title with?

And its not like in pes where you have to play and play and get more money.. you can just have luck as i had and get aubameyang out of the gold pack on the first day and trade it

with the money some very good players and had a 84 rating after one week!

i put the half of my bench players to my second team because of the "bug / glitch / handicap " dont know..

So yes youre right, why should i complain bout momentum.

And man I dont have the best stats, and dont even say im fifa god. Im just pretty good in Fifa. But im honest to myself. In Fifa 12 / 13 ive got around 7-10 titles in the end before buying the new.
Most of them were with little helps by fifa ( its too obvious not to see) , but for sure ive lost some because of the momentum the other way round i cant tell you exactly, but i can tell one thing, get i the high leagues,come back here and tell me it isnt the weirdest and most annoying thing youve ever seen in a game.

edit. your point with fitness is right, but not a real problem. 1 team fitness card costs about 1000 coins, you will need one every three games. Youll get enough coins, or just do it like me ( had 12 euro on my XBL and bought fifa points, bought gold packs, and got enough money / contracts / fitness cards.

As i said, FIFA isnt bad , ive played it so long time and still playing.

What are the concrete points you prefer fifa to the new PES?
I just want to know because everything i write hear is my true oppinion.
And in this oppinion the gameplay in PES is just awesome ( it was weird in the beginning ), it has its faults like the cursor switch or slightly lose feel whlie defending. But the major points as passing ( Im playing PH on 2 and shooting help on, so it feels like fifa to me) movements, game build up, feeling scoring the goal or making the final pass? that are things where im just fascinated.

In the last days there've beem some serverdowns and i played FIFA.
Well it felt fast as hell, simple as f*** and the momentum was there from the first match so i decided just to wait ( even if i won this match in the end through this momentum 3:2 after 0:2 after 25 minutes )


cheers

 

[OCKRASS]

hey man , i dont know why there is such an ironic mood towards me?

http://www.easports.com/de/fifa/football-club/ultimate-team/show-off?showoffId=cxM23oX9bhSI:360

thats my team, as you said chemistry is quite important, but please stop talking about things you dont know ( if youre new to FIFA , you cant know yet )

look at my bench, its buggy in fifa , put bronze players on your bench and the "matchmaking" or momentum or handicap will give your players a bonus.

I think you will accept that this team is a top team you can play for the title with?

And its not like in pes where you have to play and play and get more money.. you can just have luck as i had and get aubameyang out of the gold pack on the first day and trade it

with the money some very good players and had a 84 rating after one week!

i put the half of my bench players to my second team because of the "bug / glitch / handicap " dont know..

So yes youre right, why should i complain bout momentum.

And man I dont have the best stats, and dont even say im fifa god. Im just pretty good in Fifa. But im honest to myself. In Fifa 12 / 13 ive got around 7-10 titles in the end before buying the new.
Most of them were with little helps by fifa ( its too obvious not to see) , but for sure ive lost some because of the momentum the other way round i cant tell you exactly, but i can tell one thing, get i the high leagues,come back here and tell me it isnt the weirdest and most annoying thing youve ever seen in a game.

edit. your point with fitness is right, but not a real problem. 1 team fitness card costs about 1000 coins, you will need one every three games. Youll get enough coins, or just do it like me ( had 12 euro on my XBL and bought fifa points, bought gold packs, and got enough money / contracts / fitness cards.

As i said, FIFA isnt bad , ive played it so long time and still playing.

What are the concrete points you prefer fifa to the new PES?
I just want to know because everything i write hear is my true oppinion.
And in this oppinion the gameplay in PES is just awesome ( it was weird in the beginning ), it has its faults like the cursor switch or slightly lose feel whlie defending. But the major points as passing ( Im playing PH on 2 and shooting help on, so it feels like fifa to me) movements, game build up, feeling scoring the goal or making the final pass? that are things where im just fascinated.

In the last days there've beem some serverdowns and i played FIFA.
Well it felt fast as hell, simple as f*** and the momentum was there from the first match so i decided just to wait ( even if i won this match in the end through this momentum 3:2 after 0:2 after 25 minutes )


cheers

http://www.easports.com/fifa/football-club/ultimate-team/show-off?showoffId=cMljDywTnKkj7:ps3

Thats mine!

So I am 100% right in everything that i said.

I am not a noob bro! Your chemistry is high because you have almost the same team that i do. They are almost all Germans...and in the right positions........bench dont count.

Why are complaining about momentum if you are hitting Division 1 in 2 weeks?

If i wasn't a Fifa player, it would make me believe that Fifa is very hard and frustrating because of momentum.

I have no problem with Fifa ...and it appears that you do not either.

Play and enjoy both titles .....

peace

PS. I can eat your team for breakfast!

I doubt very much you can take such a team to division 1....ESPECIALLY since you have only BRONZE players as subs ...so once your players lose fitness in a game ( i know they do..because i have the same players) you will be road kill after that.

Are you sure you reached division 1 bro? Was there a bug that took you to Division 1?:angry:

peace

just messing with you :mariolaugh:

 

[russeribery]

nice team, cavani on bench , good one for next team or for money ..

No, I think you look at the thing from the wrong side. The problem to me is not to win the games. In 13 i played Seasons Only, no FUT. In the end ive had stats 430-190-220. So you so im not god mode or some im just normal player. And there have been seasons where i won the title with 8 straight wins because my team completely wrecked the opponents the complete season i dont know

Usually next seasons were the hardest and usually ive landed in league 2 afterwards.
And this happens to everyone, and regularly there.

Its just killing your fun knowing about so much scripting.
Just imagine a game without ..

And if youre honest, you dont feel it in the matches? If youre up by 2 or the opponnent is ahead?

You can even try strategies like do nothing first 10 minutes and then wreck the opponent ( In 13 many did this , was funny )


edit : put some bronze players on the bench and compare your results after 15 games with the results of the 15 before / think you can come down to 77 rating makes it easier


and yes, i think i will die some years earlier caused by fifas momentum

 

[OCKRASS]

nice team, cavani on bench , good one for next team or for money ..

No, I think you look at the thing from the wrong side. The problem to me is not to win the games. In 13 i played Seasons Only, no FUT. In the end ive had stats 430-190-220. So you so im not god mode or some im just normal player. And there have been seasons where i won the title with 8 straight wins because my team completely wrecked the opponents the complete season i dont know

Usually next seasons were the hardest and usually ive landed in league 2 afterwards.
And this happens to everyone, and regularly there.

Its just killing your fun knowing about so much scripting.
Just imagine a game without ..

And if youre honest, you dont feel it in the matches? If youre up by 2 or the opponnent is ahead?

You can even try strategies like do nothing first 10 minutes and then wreck the opponent ( In 13 many did this , was funny )


edit : put some bronze players on the bench and compare your results after 15 games with the results of the 15 before / think you can come down to 77 rating makes it easier


and yes, i think i will die some years earlier caused by fifas momentum

...look ....i love that you play Fifa and i love that you play UT too.

I am not arguing about how you play or your stats really.

I am just basically saying that your first post would make anyone who would be interested to try Fifa ....believe that the game is not as good as some make out to believe ...with this "momentum" thingy your are saying.

I have lost some games that i thought that i should have won. But in hindsight....i know i should have made substitutions for fresher legs on defense ...or added fresher strikers. Hit the bars, pulled up running on goal ....but in all my years of playing fifa .....i have never ever felt momentum.

I have never dominated a team and then they just came back and just miraculously kicked my arse ....i owned them. :laugh:

...and some owned my arse too...

Fifa is a good game to play ....still with some niggles ..but still a good game.

No need for us to go on ...we are both on the same team.

peace

Cavani is for Sub ....my secret weapon!

 

[Marshall2000_uk]

Ooh some people really hate PES, lol!

Well it's been a long time since I came to this site and it's seems some people are at a stage where I was after the abysmal 2011 when I decided enough was enough and got FIFA 12 instead of PES 2012, I was fed up with PES's problems. However I'm back for a little taste, Why? Because I found after FIFA 12, EA forgot that games are supposed be fun and personally think 14 is dull or frustrating depending on how the scripting decides it's gonna be.

I bought PES last year but only played a few matches in the Master League and enjoyed it but FIFA 13 was still better and as u couldn't change clubs, after all those years of asking I thought nah. Career Mode is leagues ahead but since I was finding FIFA 14 a bit boring tbh, I thought I need something fun and so far I've found that in PES 2014 and u can move clubs in Master League, WOHOO!!!!!

I will say I've only had it 3 days and played about 10 matches with the Master League default players on Top Player difficulty but I'm really enjoying PES, yeah it has its problems which I started to notice more last night and some that I remember being there before like that slow down after a clearance when too many players are in the box, shooting not working when it comes back off the keeper, I've dribbled into the net 3 times now and unless it's coz he's a ML Default, my keeper seems a bit rubbish but it still seems to have something that is making me rush home from work to play it.

I don't think it's back to its best (PES 5) but it still is more fun than FIFA IMO. That's not a slight on FIFA, it's a great game, that's quite realistic but for someone with the time I have, pick up and play is more for me and PES seems to have that and a better training system and a lot simpler defending. Fingers crossed the Fox Engine that was built for next gen actually does its job on Ps4 and the people working on it do theirs but let's be honest, it'll always have issues if the EA team do, what hope can we have for one with less resources.

 

[r9maradona]

Might as well give it up guys, instead of waiting another 6 years longer for Konami to make a good game just play Fifa now instead.

The gameplay is excellent, you actually have to build-up play in this game with precise passing and use your tactical nous to break teams down. And people online play like this too, as you simply can't through-ball spam on this game. Playing the AI is on this game is also much more realistic than Fifa. Also there is much, much less scripting and glitches on Fifa than on PES.

And that's just the gameplay. The various online modes are brilliant, lots of inventive modes to offer and crucially it's lag-free. And there is always people ready to play in 30 seconds. Meanwhile PES might as well not have online, as it's absolutely shite. Just embarrassing. Almost everyone wants to play online nowadays, so PES can never compete with Fifa until they fix this.

Not to mention presentation, Fifa actually has real songs. :tongue: And up to date squads.

RIP PES.

 

[shaun7]

Might as well give it up guys, instead of waiting another 6 years longer for Konami to make a good game just play Fifa now instead.

Either you're trolling or you just want to piss the fanboys off

Anyway, if you really do find enjoyment in fifa, good for you. I personally can't take fifa anymore. It's boringly scripted with little to no input and close to no individuality what so ever. But that's just me (even though I know this is a fact).

Yeah, it's fun for a few games, but overall it just lacks that factor that makes a good game great.

I didn't get Pes 14 because in my eyes, Pes cannot go back to it's feet until the ps4/ Xone. The fox engine is really held back on the ps3/ 360 because it doesn't have enough memory to work with.

The gameplay is excellent, you actually have to build-up play in this game with precise passing and use your tactical nous to break teams down

:laugh: Unless the script says otherwise. Face it, it's too evident to ignore.

Also there is much, much less scripting and glitches on Fifa than on PES

You called it son
/sarcasm/

 

[snowymydog]

Either you're trolling or you just want to piss the fanboys off

Anyway, if you really do find enjoyment in fifa, good for you. I personally can't take fifa anymore. It's boringly scripted with little to no input and close to no individuality what so ever. But that's just me (even though I know this is a fact).

Yeah, it's fun for a few games, but overall it just lacks that factor that makes a good game great.

I didn't get Pes 14 because in my eyes, Pes cannot go back to it's feet until the ps4/ Xone. The fox engine is really held back on the ps3/ 360 because it doesn't have enough memory to work with.



:laugh: Unless the script says otherwise. Face it, it's too evident to ignore.


You called it son
/sarcasm/

i appologize for my poor english.

Every single year, pes fans says fifa don't have individuality, well, that's not true. In the past, all the players select either RM or Barca in online matches. Why? because they have really good players and they are really good in fifa.

Every single year, pes fans says fifa is scripted. I don't know, maybe it's true, but I'm sure its not as obvious as PES. I won't say PES is scripted, actually it's cheating. It even freeze your player don't let you control, make your players like a idiot. AI even can do something that you cannot do thru your controller. I'm happy FIFA AI team only turn on the "Pressing".

Every single year, pes fans says FIFA is not real football, it's just feel doesn't right on a real pitch. Look at PES please, you don't even really need to play FIFA, PES are bad on off the ball, really really bad. SB overlap? Sorry, FIFA is much smarter.

I don't wish to list all the examples, but face it. PES need a evolution.

I'm here to tell you guys, PES is not on the right trace, defending it's quality doesn't help. We need to deliver our anger to Konami. I always want we have choices, once FIFA stops making good game, we may have another choice.

 

[shaun7]

i appologize for my poor english.

Every single year, pes fans says fifa don't have individuality, well, that's not true. In the past, all the players select either RM or Barca in online matches. Why? because they have really good players and they are really good in fifa.

If you want to play this game, here you go

The reason why all the players select Madrid or Barca is because of the high stats, YES. But, having high stats does not equal individuality. In Fifa, strength and speed are what really matters. Anything else is just not noticeable enough.

It doesn't matter how good a passer you are (or at least not noticeable enough to really make an impact), it doesn't matter how good of a dribble you are (speed and strength ensures great dribbling) and it doesn't matter how high you can jump and how good your positioning is.

And these are all crucial for individuality.

Every single year, pes fans says fifa is scripted. I don't know, maybe it's true, but I'm sure its not as obvious as PES. I won't say PES is scripted, actually it's cheating. It even freeze your player don't let you control, make your players like a idiot. AI even can do something that you cannot do thru your controller. I'm happy FIFA AI team only turn on the "Pressing".

Both are scripted in different ways and both are highly noticeable. In Fifa, the AI out reflex you in every turn and it's extremely noticeable.

Every single year, pes fans says FIFA is not real football, it's just feel doesn't right on a real pitch. Look at PES please, you don't even really need to play FIFA, PES are bad on off the ball, really really bad. SB overlap? Sorry, FIFA is much smarter.

Before you say anything rush, the AI of your teamates in both fifa and pes suck for different reasons. Fifa is not smarter because every overlap is the same no matter if you choose Barca or Newcastle.

I don't wish to list all the examples, but face it. PES need a evolution.

What's there to face? Did I not say that I didn't get pes 14 because it didn't evolve right and because it was held back?

But with that same mindset, Fifa also needs to evolve and actually try to simulate reality instead of focusing on things that do no really matter. Fifa 09 had a good base and I gave EA a chance (I actually liked fifa 09 too), but then Fifa started going downhill and instead of tackling the problems that really mattered, EA started to focus on BS things like "precision shot" or what ever they called them. And with every release since Fifa 09, the series continued the downward spiral. The game now has even less realistic moments than Fifa 09 had. Sure, it has other areas where fifa shines, but overall it's not he game that people believe it to be.

In the end, though it doesn't make a difference to me whether you or anyone else likes the game or not because on this earth, opinions vary. Pretending to speak for everyone won't work.

 

[pj_puttz]

Like Shaun says, whether you prefer FIFA or PES is irrelevant because opinions vary but what we all appear to agree on is that we haven't had a top notch football game from either Konami or EA in a good few years now.

We've all had to swallow our bile and just accept one of the games as an option if we want to play a version of footy on our consoles or PCs despite that many flaws and obvious cheaty AI that both games throw at us.

The biggest problem, in my opinion, is the complete lack of competition in this genre. We only have 2 choices and they're both fundamentally flawed each year. Arguing over which one is less shit is ridiculous and definitely not worth getting into such a strop over. The fact is neither game deserves such fervent loyalty from it's fans.

I think both companies have gotten pretty lazy due to this complete lack of any competition because they know that people will always buy the game no matter what they do. That's just how big football is worldwide.

My own view is that Konami have fallen the furthest and really dont seem to give a shit anymore but I'm sure others feel the opposite is true.

Both games have a hell of a lot in common when you play both for any decent length of time, the crappy AI, the bugs, the lack of individuality, the games all seeming to play out the same way, the cheating, the easy exploits...........and on and on and on. I dont think I've ever seen a criticism of either game that couldn't also be applied to it's rival.

Fanboys of either game have more in common with each other than they like to admit.

 

[IronCity]

I wonder if the simple fact is that no one can really create a good football game because it is impossible. Having 22 players moving independently may be more than can be coded or a processing unit to carry out.

Look at first person shooters. There is always some lame happening on the screen. For instance, bystanders just standing there despite bullets flying.

When I think of EA madden, it is possible for many players to just be taken out of the cpu decision making process because 4 or 5 players per side can be engaged in blocks, so therefore inert. But not so much with football games. There are always 22 players moving independently.

I would think if the bugs were possible to eliminate it would have done by now.

 

[DIECI]

i guess there's no good game this year!

 

[OCKRASS]

If you want to play this game, here you go

The reason why all the players select Madrid or Barca is because of the high stats, YES. But, having high stats does not equal individuality. In Fifa, strength and speed are what really matters. Anything else is just not noticeable enough.

It doesn't matter how good a passer you are (or at least not noticeable enough to really make an impact), it doesn't matter how good of a dribble you are (speed and strength ensures great dribbling) and it doesn't matter how high you can jump and how good your positioning is.

And these are all crucial for individuality.



Both are scripted in different ways and both are highly noticeable. In Fifa, the AI out reflex you in every turn and it's extremely noticeable.



Before you say anything rush, the AI of your teamates in both fifa and pes suck for different reasons. Fifa is not smarter because every overlap is the same no matter if you choose Barca or Newcastle.



What's there to face? Did I not say that I didn't get pes 14 because it didn't evolve right and because it was held back?

But with that same mindset, Fifa also needs to evolve and actually try to simulate reality instead of focusing on things that do no really matter. Fifa 09 had a good base and I gave EA a chance (I actually liked fifa 09 too), but then Fifa started going downhill and instead of tackling the problems that really mattered, EA started to focus on BS things like "precision shot" or what ever they called them. And with every release since Fifa 09, the series continued the downward spiral. The game now has even less realistic moments than Fifa 09 had. Sure, it has other areas where fifa shines, but overall it's not he game that people believe it to be.

In the end, though it doesn't make a difference to me whether you or anyone else likes the game or not because on this earth, opinions vary. Pretending to speak for everyone won't work.

Well Shaun ...he speaks for for a lot of us ...including myself.

Again, you post things that are not true. How can you even comment on a game you don't even play?

When was the last time you played Fifa....have you ever played ....(Demos dont count) Fifa for a season?

Because if you did, you would realize you are talking out of your arse.

"In Fifa, strength and speed are what really matters. Anything else is just not noticeable enough."

That's your first incorrect statement....that may be true for PES but not for Fifa. I have never seen a team with strength and speed on Fifa. Messi is fast but not strong he can be pushed of the ball easily, Ronaldo is strong ..but takes sometime to build speed ...

This is the reason we can enjoy playing online without facing Barca and Madrid every single time ..like it always is in PES online.

Individuality has been implemented in Fifa for a long time now. But there are fans like you who have decided that only a few players should be able to shoot, dribble, pass etc. In football most players are able to do this on a professional level.....some just do it better.

Messi, Ronaldo, Bale, Iniesta, Xavi, Aguero, Casillas, Balotelli, you name them ...German teams, Brazillian Teams ...all have their individual skills on Fifa. If you played the game you would have realized that these players are harder to contain because of their individual skills.

I agree that Fifa could use more improvements ...all games can.

But PES is no where near Fifa in terms of ...well all areas. Fifa kills PES every single year because it is a better game hands down (now that is a fact)

Konami has been feeding us shite every year ...and all we can do is blame the competition or try to put them down with stupid lies.

FACT CHECK! Fifa has outsold PES in the past 8 years and have held the title for the best footie game on the market.

PES is now promising us that next year they will bring the game to next gen. Why not this year?

So next year they will tell us that since it is their first year on next gen ...we should wait until the other year when they can MAYBE iron out the nasty bugs? Why not this year?

Why?

peace

 

[shaun7]

Well Shaun ...he speaks for for a lot of us ...including myself.

Yeah, ok.

Again, you post things that are not true. How can you even comment on a game you don't even play?

When was the last time you played Fifa....have you ever played ....(Demos dont count) Fifa for a season?

Because if you did, you would realize you are talking out of your arse.

For your information, I played fifa 09 and 10 full season, then I played fifa 11 for almost a half season, but after that I couldn't take it anymore. It kept going downhill. However I tried all fifa's. Infact I own fifa 13 aswell as the demo of fifa 14 and I don't like them one bit.

"In Fifa, strength and speed are what really matters. Anything else is just not noticeable enough."

That's your first incorrect statement....that may be true for PES but not for Fifa. I have never seen a team with strength and speed on Fifa. Messi is fast but not strong he can be pushed of the ball easily, Ronaldo is strong ..but takes sometime to build speed .

See, that's the problem. Players getting pushed off the ball because they're not strong. You fell for it. Messi may not be strong but his balance is incredible thus making him hard to knock down in real life. But NOT in fifa because only strength and speed matter. Where the hell is body balance in fifa?

FACT CHECK! Fifa has outsold PES in the past 8 years and have held the title for the best footie game on the market.

Doesn't prove that fifa is awesome. Only that it appeals to the masses.

Oh and I totally agree that pes should have been on ps4 this year aswell. It was stupid of konami. They needed to introduce a new chapter to the series and yet they released it for the current gen? That doesn't make any sense.

 

[OCKRASS]

Yeah, ok.

For your information, I played fifa 09 and 10 full season, then I played fifa 11 for almost a half season, but after that I couldn't take it anymore. It kept going downhill. However I tried all fifa's. Infact I own fifa 13 aswell as the demo of fifa 14 and I don't like them one bit.


Doesn't prove that fifa is awesome. Only that it appeals to the masses.

Oh and I totally agree that pes should have been on ps4 this year aswell. It was stupid of konami. They needed to introduce a new chapter to the series and yet they released it for the current gen? That doesn't make any sense.

Goddamn Shaun! What happened to you bro.....you used to like Fifa.

So you haven't played it in over 3 years....and own the Demo of this year's release.

You should try it again this year. It is a bit better.

I was surprised that Konami shafted us again this year by keeping PES on the PS3 when all other major titles have jumped onto next gen.

Are you going to get the PS4 or an Xbox One?

Have you seen the new ignite engine with Fifa on next gen?

I have already pre-ordered the PS4. But in the US the package will not be as good as in the UK where they are offering the unit, extra console, eye, game and PS plus for just $499.

peace

 

[MysteryMan]

fifa 13 was for sure better than crappy pes but this year fifa dun goofed hard.

 

[DIECI]

fifa 13 was for sure better than crappy pes but this year fifa dun goofed hard.

I disagree, PES 2013 was very good.